Re: More observation on Bayesit!
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:07:21 +, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Attachments are allowed but only up to a list maximum of 25kb. TBBETA has a higher ceiling of 40kb. Thanks Marck, I stand corrected, and attached is my blacklist of RegEx filters for Bayesit. Feel free to try at your own risk!! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More observation on Bayesit!
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:16:45 +0100, Dick H wrote: Hello Barry, On Monday, February 21, 2005 at 09:01:40 GMT + (which was 10:01:40 where I live), Barry wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of More observation on Bayesit!: Hi Well I'm still persevering! I've now transcribed 83 different regex rules over to Bayesit. I extracted them from my copy of MailWasher. Why all these problems and hassle if Spambayes can do all the work for you with just a little bit of training? Hi Dick, I can use Mailwasher Pro VERY successfully. I'm just trying to find an integrated solution that works. So far it hasn't, but I like the challenge. :-) And there's no doubt that for me the RegEx filters have improved performance greatly. I've no doubt that SpamBayes works very well, but it's yet another program that has to be run alongside the multitude of other 'utilities' that seem to clog up my taskbar on a regular basis. So I'll give Bayesit a month and if it doesn't work after that I'll go back to Mailwasher Pro, which does. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More observation on Bayesit!
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:25:18 -0500, Roman Katzer wrote: Furthermore: I never got BayesIt to work. The fact that there doesn't seem to be documentation doesn't help. Even when the German magazine c't (highly respected) tested several mail programs and their spam filtering capabilities they couln't get it to work. In other tests that I've read BayesIt seemed to always be worse than other Bayes-based competitors. Hi Roman, See my reply to Dick. I used to use K9 with great success, but for me Mailwasher Pro is the top dog! It seems odd to me that some people seem to claim great things of Bayesit, yet for others, like me, it doesn't seem to work. Similarly great claims are made for Bayes Filter, and yet, for me, it just doesn't work. I agree with your comment re the lack of documentation. I'll continue my experiment. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More observation on Bayesit! - blacklist.txt (1/1) uuEncoded 8061 bytes
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:37:27 +, Barry wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:07:21 +, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Attachments are allowed but only up to a list maximum of 25kb. TBBETA has a higher ceiling of 40kb. Thanks Marck, I stand corrected, and attached is my blacklist of RegEx filters for Bayesit. Feel free to try at your own risk!! Hmmm? Well, it was attached when it left me! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release begin 644 blacklist.txt M#0HC6S%=(%9I86=R82!;4UT-E-U8FIE8W0@;6%T8VAER`Z=EM5U]=S`L M,GU;:3%=6UQ77UU[,PR?5MA0%U;7%=?77LP+#)]9UM5U]=S`L,GUR6UQ7 M7UU[,PR?5MA0%T-@T*(ULQ72!!9]3%M($UAFMEB`H4RD-E-U8FIE M8W0@;6%T8VAER`Z061V/SI\7%=!9'95WQ061V7%-@T*(ULR72!!9]3 M%M($UAFMEB`H4RD-E-U8FIE8W0@;6%T8VAER`Z*%QS?%PN*7LU+'TN M*EQW*R0-@T*(ULS72!!9]3%M($UAFMEB`H4RD-E-U8FIE8W0@;6%T M8VAER`Z7'M7'T-@T*(ULT72!!9]3%M($UAFMEB`H4RD-E-U8FIE M8W0@;6%T8VAER`Z*%QS?%PN*7LQ,Q])`T*#0HC6S5=([EMAIL PROTECTED] M:V5R(A3*0T*4W5B:F5C=!M871C:5S(#I-97-S86=E+4ED+BLH36%C:#$P M?%)!1ELP+3E=*0T*#0HC6S9=([EMAIL PROTECTED]:V5R(A3*0T*4W5B:F5C M=!M871C:5S(#I;7'=?%U[,34L?20-@T*(ULQ72!!9'5L=`H4RD-E-U M8FIE8W0@;6%T8VAER`Z6%A8?A!9'5L='Q-871UF4I($-O;G1E;G1\061U M;'1S/R!/;FQY?$YO($UI;F]RWQ5;F-E;G-OF5D#0H-B-;,[EMAIL PROTECTED];'0@ M*%,I#0I3=6)J96-T(UA=-H97,@.BA2;W5G:'Q(;W1\55E;BDN*B!!9'5L M='Q397A\0F%R96QY($QE9V%L(%1E96Y\5V5T(%1E96Y\55E;B`H06-T:6]N M?%-W965T:5AG1\3W)G:65S*7Q:71C:'Q%V-OG1S?A?%QS*4-U;[EMAIL PROTECTED] M?%QS?TI?$,P8VM\45N6VDQ;%US?$QEV)I86X-@T*(ULS72!!9'5L=`H M4RD-E-U8FIE8W0@;6%T8VAER`Z4VQU='-\1EMU7I+5]^7EUC:WQ0=7-S M7Q0=7-S:65S?A3=6-K?$)I9WQ-87-S:79E?$QAF=E*2!#;V-K?%9IF=I M;EQ7?$AAF0M/V-OF5\0W5MVAO='Q5T-U;[EMAIL PROTECTED]5S8F\@ M4VET97Q;]W(#]*;V)\4V5X(%9I95OWQ(;W0H=5S=D_(XJ4%MI,6Q= M8W,-@T*(ULT72!!9'5L=`H4RD-E-U8FIE8W0@;6%T8VAER`Z*#\M:2E! M1%5,5'Q#3T-+4PT*#0HC6S5=($%D=6QT(A3*0T*4W5B:F5C=!M871C:5S M(#HH3G5D97Q.86ME9'[EMAIL PROTECTED](XJ4EC?$)AF5L2`H35G86Q\061U;'0I M?A7971\1')I'!I;F=\2]T*2`H55E;G-\35S8FEA;G,I#0H-B-;-ET@ M061U;'[EMAIL PROTECTED],I#0I3=6)J96-T(UA=-H97,@.D%D=6QT($QI;FMS?%-E`H M4VAO=WQ3:71E*7Q0;W)N(A-;W9I97-\1FQI8VLI?$UAG)I960N*T)U=XK M3]N96QY?$AO=!-;VUS?%-E'[EMAIL PROTECTED]AO=]\5V5T(%-E`T*#0HC6S==($%D M=6QT(A3*0T*4W5B:F5C=!M871C:5S(#I(;W)N2XK*$AO=7-E=VEV97-\ M55E;G,I?A.86ME9'Q.=61E*2`H35S8FEA;G-\5V]M96Y\55E;G-\1VER M;',I#0H-B-;[EMAIL PROTECTED];'[EMAIL PROTECTED],I#0I3=6)J96-T(UA=-H97,@.D%N:6UA M;',N*RA':7)LWQ7;VUE;BE\*$=IFQS?%=O;65N*2XK06YI;6%LPT*#0HC M6SE=($%D=6QT(A3*0T*4W5B:F5C=!M871C:5S(#I4:6=H=AEW0I/R`H M4'5SWE\5F%G:6YA*7Q$:6-KWQ66VEL,5UR9UMI;#%=;G-\4%LP0%UR;GQ, M6V\P75ML,5U;:6PQ771A?$=A;F=;(U=/V)A;F=\($1O;F=\2%R9,PF5\ M2#!R;GE\0W5N='Q4=V%T?$=IC%S?%QB5ETS]8GQ!W-H;VQE#0H-B-; M,[EMAIL PROTECTED];'[EMAIL PROTECTED](I#0I;V1Y(UA=-H97,@.BA(;W1\5V5T*2!4965N?$)A MF5L2`H35G86Q\061U;'0I#0H-B-;,[EMAIL PROTECTED];'[EMAIL PROTECTED](I#0I;V1Y(UA M=-H97,@[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]:2E\4VET92!396-R971S?$%D=6QT(A3 M:71E(D_3EN:W,-@T*(ULS72!!9'5L=`H0BD-D)O9'D@;6%T8VAER`Z M7%=#=6U5WQ(;[EMAIL PROTECTED]@5V]M96Y\1V%N9R`_0F%N9WQ=6-K?$1I;1O MPT*#0HC6S1=($%D=6QT(A*0T*0F]D2!M871C:5S(#I0:]N92!397A\ M36%R[EMAIL PROTECTED]XM74)[EMAIL PROTECTED]XM74QO;F5L0T*#0HC6S5=($%D=6QT(A M*0T*0F]D2!M871C:5S(#I9;W4NS$L,35]719`NS$L,C!]5[EMAIL PROTECTED] M97(-@T*(ULV72!!9'5L=`H0BD-D)O9'D@;6%T8VAER`Z:'1T',_.B\O M+BIX'@N*R0-@T*(ULQ72!860@(D9R;VTB(%M70T*1G)O;2!N;W0@;6%T M8VAER`Z6UQW+BU=*T`H6UQW+5TK7XI*UM!+5I=S(L-'T-@T*(ULQ72! M860@)[EMAIL PROTECTED]($AE861EB!;2%T-DAE861EB!M871C:5S(#I8+4)U;M%;6%I M;'Q8+5)E;6]V86P-@T*(ULR72!860@)[EMAIL PROTECTED]($AE861EB!;2%T-DAE861E MB!M871C:5S(#I8+5-E;F1EBXJ3F5WR!F5A:V5R#0H-B-;,[EMAIL PROTECTED] M(=8)R!(96%D97(@6TA=#0I(96%D97(@;6%T8VAER`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
Help with filters please
Hi @ll, Could someone please give me a hint on how to work this out? I want to set up filtering for log messages where sender and subject contain similar strings, and body text contains (non-) capitalized lowercase phrases like scan dropped and Attack Dropped. The use of [] and | isn't all that clear to me, and wildcards combined with regular expressions enabled isn't doing the trick either... This set: log-fw Sender Yes alert|Alert Subject Yes [?can ?ropped]|[?ttack ?ropped] TextYes ...isn't hitting any msg, Anyone? TIA! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with filters please
Dear Cory, @22-Feb-2005, 11:16 +0100 (22-Feb 10:16 UK time) Cory [C] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: C Could someone please give me a hint on how to work this out? I can try ... although you don't say which version you are using. C I want to set up filtering for log messages where sender and C subject contain similar strings, and body text contains (non-) C capitalized lowercase phrases like scan dropped and Attack C Dropped. Filter text matching is case insensitive by default. C The use of [] and | isn't all that clear to me, and wildcards C combined with regular expressions enabled isn't doing the trick C either... Ah - well, [] and Regex cannot be used together. And I'm not sure that this applies in the same way to V3 filters. Sounds like you're using v2. This is not going to make it easy since nobody can test your filters or supply you with one. C This set: C log-fw Sender Yes C alert|Alert Subject Yes C [?can ?ropped]|[?ttack ?ropped] C TextYes C ...isn't hitting any msg, That is a mess I'm afraid. You can't combine wildcards with regex as you have done here. Since the matching is case insensitive, just put the real characters in instead of the ? characters. V3 would eat this for breakfast. Try one or all of these: (1) log-fw Sender Yes alert Subject Yes [scan|attack] dropped TextYes (2) log-fw Sender Yes alert Subject Yes scan dropped|attack dropped TextYes (3) log-fw Sender Yes alert Subject Yes scan droppedTextYes (+ Alternative) log-fw Sender Yes alert Subject Yes attack dropped TextYes Like I say - I don't have v1/2 or the v1/2 help file to verify any of the advice here. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpSzdFG6MD3Z.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Manual filtering problem
Hello Mic, Monday, February 21, 2005, 6:24:22 PM, you wrote: MC At 18:04 [GMT-0500] on Monday February 21 (actual time - 7:04am on Tuesday in MC Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Hi Mic, Thanks for the info. Does that mean the discussion group doesn't deal with questions involving earlier versions of TB!? Nick Recently moved from TB v1.63 to 2.0 and now neither of my manual Nick filters (hot keys) work. Is this a bug in the new version? MC Unless this is a message from LONG ago, v2 ain't 'new'. V3 has been out for a MC while now, and it's got a brand-new filter system. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Manual filtering problem
At 17:26 [GMT-0500] on Tuesday February 22 (actual time - 6:26am on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Nick Thanks for the info. Does that mean the discussion group doesn't deal Nick with questions involving earlier versions of TB!? Not necessarily, but it does narrow the pool from which information can be drawn, as most people (not all, but a very large percentage) who can be bothered being on an email list for a product are the ones who are pretty quick to adopt the new versions. -- cheers, mic No one fails a class anymore, he's merelypassing impaired. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Manual filtering problem
Hi On Tuesday 22 February 2005 at 10:26:34 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick OHare wrote: Does that mean the discussion group doesn't deal with questions involving earlier versions of TB!? As version 3 has a new filter system, potential helpers may be unable to test their advice before posting or unable to replicate/emulate your situation. Have you tried the list archives? Is the option to use a hotkey selected? (always worth checking the obvious) Any clashes of hotkey/shortcut key (check Alt-F12)? Assuming you backed everything up before upgrading, you could try overwriting the file containing your filters with your backup copy. (sorry I don't know filename) BTW, top posting will incur the wrath of the moderators. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Manual filtering problem
Hello Nick, Tuesday, February 22, 2005, 11:26:34 PM, you wrote: Does that mean the discussion group doesn't deal with questions involving earlier versions of TB!? Not at all. There are even some still around who use v2, take me for example. But you are using an old version even in terms of v2. I don't think I ever used 2.00 and as it was the first release it's bound to have bugs that were fixed in the numerous later releases. So yes might be you filters don't work because of a bug, too, who knows. I would definitely advise you to upgrade to v2.12 and not only because of bugs. Filters invoked by hotkeys certainly work here. If that doesn't cure it let us have a look at your filters. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10. A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
