Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Anthony,

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:22:27 +0200GMT (3-6-2005, 7:22 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

AGA Why is the Copy option disabled when I look at the raw text of a message
AGA with the F9 key?  I used to be able to select and copy the raw text of a
AGA message, which is sometimes necessary.

Because you need to select some text before you can copy anything.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Manuel Breitfeld writes:

 Not for me, that's strange! Sorry, I never heard of any problems concerning
 copying a text in the message source viewer.

Select the message header only in a folder, then press F9 to see the raw
text, and see if it lets you copy.  It seems to be related to that.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Roelof Otten writes:

 Because you need to select some text before you can copy anything.

I selected all the text.

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Is it worth upgrading to v3.5.25?

2005-06-03 Thread Robin Anson
Batlovers, 

Now that v3.5.25 has been released, can anyone volunteer an opinion
about whether it is worth upgrading from v3.0.1.33? Are there any
significant bugs, issues or other annoyances still left in it?
 
Robin

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Manuel Breitfeld

Hi Anthony,
   -- 03.06.2005 10:24 +0200:


Select the message header only in a folder, then press F9 to see the raw
text, and see if it lets you copy.  It seems to be related to that.


I can do whatever I want - everything is fine.

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Re[2]: [The Bat!] Unread - global colour in list

2005-06-03 Thread admin
 How do I set the background colour and foreground colour of all unread 
 messages...

 ...settings for the General Color Group(? -
 freely translating from German here). There's a setting for read and one
 for unread messages.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Fredrik Bergström
Hello Anthony,

 Why is the Copy option disabled when I look at the raw text of a message
 with the F9 key?  I used to be able to select and copy the raw text of a
 message, which is sometimes necessary.

I had this problem on 3.5, but now on 3.5.25 it seems to be working
again, if I press F9, Edit / Select All and then Edit / Copy I get a
copy of all the text.

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Re: Is it worth upgrading to v3.5.25?

2005-06-03 Thread Jeff Gaines
Hello Group

On Friday, June 3, 2005, 9:12:22 AM, Robin wrote:

 Batlovers, 

 Now that v3.5.25 has been released, can anyone volunteer an opinion
 about whether it is worth upgrading from v3.0.1.33? Are there any
 significant bugs, issues or other annoyances still left in it?


If you want to be sure then better wait three months and monitor this
group.

We haven't been hit (yet) with the flood of issues that were reported
after 3.5.0 (?) was released and it's running fine for me. Whoops,
just noticed it's lost my user dictionary in the u/g, does it every
time :-(

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Re: Is it worth upgrading to v3.5.25?

2005-06-03 Thread Allie Martin
On Friday, June 03, 2005 at 3:12:22 AM [GMT -0500], Robin Anson wrote:

 Now that v3.5.25 has been released, can anyone volunteer an opinion
 about whether it is worth upgrading from v3.0.1.33? Are there any
 significant bugs, issues or other annoyances still left in it?

There are always issues and annoyances. It's just whether or not those
issues or annoyances affect you. Only one way to find out. :)

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Re: Is it worth upgrading to v3.5.25?

2005-06-03 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, June 3, 2005, 8:12:22 PM, Robin wrote:

RA Now that v3.5.25 has been released, can anyone volunteer an opinion
RA about whether it is worth upgrading from v3.0.1.33? Are there any
RA significant bugs, issues or other annoyances still left in it?
 
Well, it has fixed my Access Violation problem that was preventing me
from creating any mail while logged on as a group.  But it still has the
other issue of not remembering all group members.  Still, what should I
expect given it has been a feature since 1.62 or thereabouts?

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Re: Is it worth upgrading to v3.5.25?

2005-06-03 Thread Vili
RA Now that v3.5.25 has been released, can anyone volunteer an opinion
RA about whether it is worth upgrading from v3.0.1.33? Are there any
RA significant bugs, issues or other annoyances still left in it?

My answer would  simple: dont upgrade, yet.

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Adding a date to AB entries. Any suggestion?

2005-06-03 Thread MAU
Hello all,

I manage 3 AB groups automatically with filters to add and delete
addresses to/from them. It would be very convenient for me to, also
automagically, include a field (Birthday or any other) with the date
when the entry has been added to the AB and, so far, I have not found a
way of doing so.

I'm looking at the possibility of instead of adding addresses directly
to AB, adding them to a text file (obviously automagically) that I could
then once a day manually import into the AB, but I haven't found any way
of doing this either.

I would appreciate any imaginative suggestion on how to achieve this.

TIA.

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Submission Forms?

2005-06-03 Thread Barry
Hi all

I've been using V3.5 for a while now and I've found the option for
Submission Forms

What are these?

Seem interesting, but I can't find anything in the help file about them.

Does someone know how I can find out what this all means?

;)

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Re: Adding a date to AB entries. Any suggestion?

2005-06-03 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

 I would appreciate any imaginative suggestion on how to achieve this.

I got it. This happens to me many times. I give up on something, I ask
for help and then is when I find the solution myself.

It is easier that I thought.

What my filters must do as action is:
-Export message to plain text file D:\Temp\add.csv
  With 'append' option selected
  And with template = %FROMADDR, %DATESHORT,

And then once a day all I have to do is import this file to the desired
AB group, importing the date in the Notes(Memo) field.

I owe myself a beer ;-)

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Anthony,

  A reminder of what Anthony G. Atkielski typed on:
  June 3, 2005 at 10:24:58 GMT +0200

AGA Manuel Breitfeld writes:

 Not for me, that's strange! Sorry, I never heard of any problems concerning
 copying a text in the message source viewer.

AGA Select the message header only in a folder, then press F9 to see the raw
AGA text, and see if it lets you copy.  It seems to be related to that.


What version are you using. There was a problem a while back, that has
since been sorted, whereby if you selected all the text, you could not
then use copy. If you selected only a portion of the text you could.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Chris

Anthony G. Atkielski @ 2005-Jun-3 4:25:18 AM
Why can't I copy the raw text of a message? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Because you need to select some text before you can copy anything.
 I selected all the text.

That's the problem. In 3.5, there is a bug that prevents one from
doing what you are doing.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chris,

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:51:08 -0400 GMT (03/06/2005, 22:51 +0700 GMT),
Chris wrote:

 Because you need to select some text before you can copy anything.
 I selected all the text.

C That's the problem. In 3.5, there is a bug that prevents one from
C doing what you are doing.

I cannot duplicate. Whether I hit ctrl-A in the F9-window or just mark
a passage with the mouse, copy works.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

C That's the problem. In 3.5, there is a bug that prevents one from
C doing what you are doing.

 I cannot duplicate. Whether I hit ctrl-A in the F9-window or just mark
 a passage with the mouse, copy works.

But you are using 3.5.25, not 3.5 :)

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Re: Submission Forms?

2005-06-03 Thread MAU
Hello Barry,

 Seem interesting, but I can't find anything in the help file about them.

Yes, there is some info in Help. I don't know if enough, but there is
some, even about Form templates. Just search Help for 'forms'.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Thomas!

On Friday, June 03, 2005, 11:05 AM, you wrote:

 I selected all the text.

C That's the problem. In 3.5, there is a bug that prevents one from
C doing what you are doing.

 I cannot duplicate. Whether I hit ctrl-A in the F9-window or just mark
 a passage with the mouse, copy works.

But your sig info says that you are running 3.5.25, Thomas.
The bug existed in 3.5.0 and was fixed in 3.5.25.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mary.

--On 03 June 2005 11:50 -0500 you wrote about Re: Why can't I copy the raw
text of a message?:


 But your sig info says that you are running 3.5.25,

Sorry to hijack but can anyone tell me if this threads OK please?

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AV - 3.5.25

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Thoene
Finally am seeing AV's on the latest beta. They're so bad that I can't 
even open TB!...


I try to launch TB!, it partially opens, I get about 7-10 Send the 
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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread MAU
Hello Tony,

 Sorry to hijack but can anyone tell me if this threads OK please?

Perfect Tony. All mids in Refetences are between . See:

 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Tony Boom
Hello MAU.

--On 03 June 2005 19:26 +0200 you wrote about Re: Why can't I copy the raw
text of a message?:


 Perfect Tony. All mids in Refetences are between . See:

Thank God for that! I just opened a Fastmail IMAP account, and paid for it
so if it still produced threading problems I don't know what it would be...
But it don't so it just proves it WAS 11.co.uk IMAP server.

This one seems one hell of a lot faster as well, might try it with TB when
I get it all set up.

Thanks Mig.

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Re: AV - 3.5.25

2005-06-03 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Matt,
   On 03/06/2005 09:34 AM -0700, you wrote:

 I try to launch TB!, it partially opens, I get about 7-10 Send the
 debug to Microsoft messages until finally I see the attached .png.

What attached PNG? :) 

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Re: AV - 3.5.25

2005-06-03 Thread Chris

Matt Thoene @ 2005-Jun-3 12:34:54 PM
AV - 3.5.25 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I try to launch TB!, it partially opens, I get about 7-10 Send the
 debug to Microsoft messages until finally I see the attached .png.

No image attached. Can you upload it somewhere and post a link?

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Re: AV - 3.5.25

2005-06-03 Thread Chris

Allie Martin @ 2005-Jun-3 1:36:28 PM
AV - 3.5.25 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I try to launch TB!, it partially opens, I get about 7-10 Send the
 debug to Microsoft messages until finally I see the attached .png.

 What attached PNG? :) 

Personally, I have yet to receive an attachment from this list.
Perhaps this message will prove me wrong...

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Re: AV - 3.5.25

2005-06-03 Thread Chris

Chris @ 2005-Jun-3 1:41:32 PM
AV - 3.5.25 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Perhaps this message will prove me wrong...

It didn't.

Yes, the 25 KB (or 10 KB or whatever the number is) limit is false. I
attached a 179 byte PNG image to that message. It did not come
through, at least for me.

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Re: AV - 3.5.25

2005-06-03 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Chris,
   On 03/06/2005 01:41 PM -0400, you wrote:

 Personally, I have yet to receive an attachment from this list.
 Perhaps this message will prove me wrong...

Ah. I thought I was reading TBBETA mail. You're right. Attachments
aren't allowed on TBUDL.

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Re: AV - 3.5.25

2005-06-03 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, June 3, 2005, 12:36:28 PM, Allie Martin wrote:

 What attached PNG? :)

not allowed here are they? just beta list I thought. Hard to keep
track, sometimes which list one is on.

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Re: AV - 3.5.25

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Thoene
On Friday, June 3, 2005 @ 10:36:28 AM [-0700], Allie Martin wrote:

 I try to launch TB!, it partially opens, I get about 7-10 Send the
 debug to Microsoft messages until finally I see the attached .png.

 What attached PNG? :) 

Oops...had to use Thunderbird for this email and was all messed up with
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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Fredrik Bergström writes:

 I had this problem on 3.5, but now on 3.5.25 it seems to be working
 again, if I press F9, Edit / Select All and then Edit / Copy I get a
 copy of all the text.

I thought 3.5 was the latest version.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Stuart Cuddy writes:

 What version are you using.

What does my signature say?

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Chris writes:

 That's the problem. In 3.5, there is a bug that prevents one from
 doing what you are doing.

I thought 3.5 was a stable release.

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different template for reply vs reply-quoting-selected?

2005-06-03 Thread Paul A. Thiessen
Hi! Is it possible to use different templates for plain reply vs reply
quoting selected text? That is, if I use just reply I want the (whole)
quoted message to appear at the bottom below my sig, with the cursor at the
top. Whereas if I do reply quoting selected text I want to have both the
whole message quoted below, as well as just the selected text quoted up at
the top above the cursor. Is this possible (using 3.5)?

Thanks!

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wrapped lines in header display?

2005-06-03 Thread Paul A. Thiessen
Hi! Is it possible to have long lines wrapped in the header display for a
message? That is, if there's a long CC: line (for example), then it shows
the first few then ... at the end, and I have to manually select and
scroll around to see the whole list. Is there some way to have it wrap a
long line like this onto multiple lines in the header panel so that I can
see them all at once?

Thanks!

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Fri 3-Jun-05 2:37pm -0500, Anthony G. Atkielski wrote:

 Fredrik Bergström writes:

 I had this problem on 3.5, but now on 3.5.25 it seems to be working
 again, if I press F9, Edit / Select All and then Edit / Copy I get a
 copy of all the text.

 I thought 3.5 was the latest version.

Continuing its newly established tradition of releasing
unstable versions with missing features, Ritlabs
announced yesterday morning:

New version of The Bat!, 3.5.25, is available to download at
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php

snip

It was mailed to everyone on the announcement list.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Bill,
   On 03/06/2005 02:46 PM -0500, you wrote:

 Continuing its newly established tradition of releasing
 unstable versions with missing features, Ritlabs
 announced yesterday morning:

What missing features are you referring to??

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Re: Submission Forms?

2005-06-03 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Friday 3 June 2005 at 12:15:29 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Barry wrote:

 I've been using V3.5 for a while now and I've found the option for
 Submission Forms

They are not new. Mentioned in the help file for v3.0.1.33 and I'm
sure I read it in v2 when I first installed TB!

 What are these?

Help file (v3.0.1.33) begins:-

Submission forms are a tool for creating queries
that are automatically processed. A query is actually a message
with strictly defined fields and string variables.

The queries come from a user equipped with The Bat! software with
form templates (files with a TBC-extension). Such a user is
referred to as the client. Before submitting a query, The Bat!
asks the user to fill out a form, which looks very much like forms
that you have probably filled out on the Web.

[...]

The bit that really confuses me is Upon reception of a template
file and verification of the digital signature, the client adds it
to the list of template forms.

There is no hint as to where this list resides or how to add to
(or create?) it.


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Re: AV - 3.5.25

2005-06-03 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Friday 3 June 2005 at 6:41:32 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris wrote:


 Personally, I have yet to receive an attachment from this list.

Back in February I received an 8 Kb text attachment with
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Anthony,

  A reminder of what Anthony G. Atkielski typed on:
  June 3, 2005 at 21:38:18 GMT +0200

AGA Stuart Cuddy writes:

 What version are you using.

AGA What does my signature say?

Ah yes, I was looking for something longer, as in 3.5.25. Try
upgrading it fixes this problem. I'm sorry I can't point you to the
link form here, but I'm sure someone else can. :)


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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Stuart!

On Friday, June 03, 2005, 3:57 PM, you wrote:

AGA What does my signature say?

 Ah yes, I was looking for something longer, as in 3.5.25. Try
 upgrading it fixes this problem. I'm sorry I can't point you to the
 link form here, but I'm sure someone else can. :)

Straight off the RitLabs Newsletter to which I'm subscribed and which
arrives every once in awhile and came to me yesterday:

New version of The Bat!, 3.5.25, is available to download at
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php 

HTH :)

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Re: different template for reply vs reply-quoting-selected?

2005-06-03 Thread MAU
Hello Paul,

 Hi! Is it possible to use different templates for plain reply vs reply
 quoting selected text? That is, if I use just reply I want the (whole)
 quoted message to appear at the bottom below my sig, with the cursor at the
 top. Whereas if I do reply quoting selected text I want to have both the
 whole message quoted below, as well as just the selected text quoted up at
 the top above the cursor. Is this possible (using 3.5)?

I don't think it is possible, but I'm mot 100% sure.

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Re: wrapped lines in header display?

2005-06-03 Thread MAU
Hello Paul,

 Hi! Is it possible to have long lines wrapped in the header display for a
 message? That is, if there's a long CC: line (for example), then it shows
 the first few then ... at the end, and I have to manually select and
 scroll around to see the whole list. Is there some way to have it wrap a
 long line like this onto multiple lines in the header panel so that I can
 see them all at once?

Not the way you want it. But if while focus is on the message pane you
right click and select 'RFC-822 Headers' you will see all e-mail headers,
including CC.

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Re: different template for reply vs reply-quoting-selected?

2005-06-03 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Friday 3 June 2005 at 8:38:13 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul A. Thiessen
wrote:

 Hi! Is it possible to use different templates for plain reply vs reply
 quoting selected text? That is, if I use just reply I want the (whole)
 quoted message to appear at the bottom below my sig, with the cursor at the
 top. Whereas if I do reply quoting selected text I want to have both the
 whole message quoted below, as well as just the selected text quoted up at
 the top above the cursor. Is this possible (using 3.5)?

Perhaps you could devise a template using the %QUOTECLIPBOARD
macro above the cursor and the %Quotes macro below it?

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Bill McCarthy writes:

 Continuing its newly established tradition of releasing
 unstable versions with missing features, Ritlabs
 announced yesterday morning:

 New version of The Bat!, 3.5.25, is available to download at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php

If Ritlabs wants me to test their software for them, they're going to
have to pay me for it.  I expect release versions to be free of bugs.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Stuart Cuddy writes:

 Ah yes, I was looking for something longer, as in 3.5.25. Try
 upgrading it fixes this problem.

I JUST FINISHED UPGRADING. THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM.

I don't find bugs for free, sorry.

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Re: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?

2005-06-03 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Fri 3-Jun-05 3:02pm -0500, Allie Martin wrote:

On 03/06/2005 02:46 PM -0500, you wrote:

 Continuing its newly established tradition of releasing
 unstable versions with missing features, Ritlabs
 announced yesterday morning:

 What missing features are you referring to??

Here are just a few:

Watch Replies In has not been fully functioning since
3.5.00.  One needs to keep an older thebat.exe handy to
mark new messages.  3.5.25 will then find new replies
but requires manually refreshing.

Many shortcuts are not possible with the new
customization.  An example is creating a shortcut for
displaying only unread messages (Alt VDU).

The help feature is back at 3.0 still - i.e. the help
file for 3.5.xx is missing :-(

Entering a folder with no previously read message -
such as the Junk mail folder - shows no message in
the auto-view window.  So, instead of using my hotkey
to delete mail from the store and the server, I need to
first change my focus to the message list - either my
having to click on a message or a multi keystroke such
as Tab followed by up-arrow.

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Re[2]: Submission Forms?

2005-06-03 Thread Vili
 Seem interesting, but I can't find anything in the help file about them.
M Yes, there is some info in Help. I don't know if enough, but there is
M some, even about Form templates. Just search Help for 'forms'.

There is more than enough info about them in the help, with examples.
I have made the Hungarian translation of that, so even I understood it
:)

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Re: different template for reply vs reply-quoting-selected?

2005-06-03 Thread Charles Canato
Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:38:13 PM, you wrote:
PAT Hi! Is it possible to use different templates for plain reply vs reply
PAT quoting selected text?

I don't think so, Paul. At least, not with my little knowledge. I'd
sure create a quick template with a short alias like quo or
whatever. I'd let the Reply template using one of the formats, and this quick
template using the other one.

It's not as automated as you want, but it's not a bad solution either.

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Re[2]: Adding a date to AB entries. Any suggestion?

2005-06-03 Thread Charles Canato
 I would appreciate any imaginative suggestion on how to achieve this.

M What my filters must do as action is:
M -Export message to plain text file D:\Temp\add.csv
M   With 'append' option selected
M   And with template = %FROMADDR, %DATESHORT,

M I owe myself a beer ;-)

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Re: Is it worth upgrading to v3.5.25?

2005-06-03 Thread Robin Anson
Allie

On Fri 3 June 2005, 20:06:51 +1000, Allie Martin wrote:
 There are always issues and annoyances. It's just whether or not those
 issues or annoyances affect you. Only one way to find out. :)

How about the memory consumption problem you noted in an earlier
subrelease? Does that appear to be fixed?

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Re: Is it worth upgrading to v3.5.25?

2005-06-03 Thread Allie Martin
On Friday, June 03, 2005 at 8:21:04 PM [GMT -0500], Robin Anson wrote:

 How about the memory consumption problem you noted in an earlier
 subrelease? Does that appear to be fixed?

Not really. TB! still uses a lot of memory to open attachments. However,
minimizing frees up the memory. However, if you keep TB! always in the
systray, then the memory will not be freed on minimizing.

So, there's a way to avoid the memory consumption, but it's not entirely
gone.

Note, that some seem not to see the problem.

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Re: Is it worth upgrading to v3.5.25?

2005-06-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Robin!

On Friday, June 03, 2005, 8:21 PM, you wrote:

 There are always issues and annoyances. It's just whether or not those
 issues or annoyances affect you. Only one way to find out. :)

 How about the memory consumption problem you noted in an earlier
 subrelease? Does that appear to be fixed?

It appears to be fixed here. CPU is fluctuating between 0 and 22 per
cent on the Task Manager. When I launch and begin to use TB!, the Page
File number changes from 265 MB to 278 MB. (I'm running 61 processes
because I use F-Secure as my AV program, and it utilizes a lot of
processes. Probably many people run much leaner than I do.)

Basic POP3 things (send, receive, filter, and manage mail) are working
for me.

You could save your current version in a back-up, and try this one
out.

If you use keyboard shortcuts, they won't carry over and you will have
to redefine them using the new View/Toolbars/Customise/shortcuts
system.

There are some minor things that I don't like--1) it still won't quote
(as has been true since v. 3.0.1.33) Smiley ASCII text when Smiley
imaging is enabled in RTV, but this happens only randomly; 2) there is an
issue or two with scrollbars; 3) I had to acquire an icon skin set that
MAU made, in order to be comfortable with the new icons. And so on.

Small things like that.

We would all be interested in your opinion of v. 3.5.25, if you should
indeed decide to try it out.

It's a keeper for me. But then, I have a fairly high tolerance level
for small inconveniences, and my basic requirements in an e-mail
program are few and well met in the current version of TB!

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Re[2]: Submission Forms?

2005-06-03 Thread Vili
M They are not new. Mentioned in the help file for v3.0.1.33 and I'm
M sure I read it in v2 when I first installed TB!

It was even in v1 :)

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Background color and Key Assignments

2005-06-03 Thread Munango-Keewati
Anyone know how to change the background color of the folder tabs and
message list?

Thanks in advance.

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Read Mail filter

2005-06-03 Thread Munango-Keewati
Would someone please explain how to use the Read Mail filters.  It
looks obvious, but I can't get it to work in this version of TB! any
better than in previous versions (which is to say, not at all).

Thanks!

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