Re: spam locking TheBat!
Hello all, Tuesday, November 29, 2005, Terry G. Munson wrote: I have been receiving a strange type of junk e-mail. The e-mail is obviously spam and gets filtered to my junk folder. If I click on the e-mail to delete it, TB! locks and will not respond. I have to kill TB! with the task manager. The only way I can delete this e-mail is to pick an e-mail above and shift-pick below and delete the group. Has anyone had a similar problem? one user reported me this problem, but when he upgraded to latest final 3.62.14, problem was solved. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Gmail invitation needed.
Hello, I would like to create an account gmail... It seems that it is necessary to be sponsored. Who of you would have the kindness to forward me an invitation by private email? :-) Thank you by advance. ;-) -- Wil TB User At office - Webmail used - Sorry if Cut mark doesn't work. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail invitation needed.
Hello, I would like to create an account gmail... Invitation sent -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail invitation needed.
Hello, I would like to create an account gmail... Invitation sent Thanks a lot ! -- Wil Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail invitation needed.
Who of you would have the kindness to forward me an invitation by private email? :-) Thank you by advance. ;-) Thanks a lot to all members of TB for the Gmail invitations. TBUDL is a real list of friends ! -- Wil TB User At office - Webmail used - Sorry if Cut mark doesn't work. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail invitation needed.
On Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 08:11:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks a lot to all members of TB for the Gmail invitations. I saw this a bit late and now you have yours :-) If anyone else needs an invite, let me know! Regards, Roman -- If I had been born some time ago I would've been some animal's lunch. -- Warren Buffett Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Yahoogroups and GMX
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:58:46 +0700 GMT (30/11/2005, 08:58 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Testing different ISP... It was the ISP. -- Cheers, Thomas. When I wash the cat, it takes me hours to get the hair off my tongue. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! exit seems slow with IMAP
Hello All... I have added an IMAP account with fastmail. I haven't had an IMAP account before and need some advice. I have both a POP3 and IMAP account in TB!. Since adding the IMAP, I noticed a longer delay in TB! closing. Checking my IMAP account for mail at some point will result in a 4 second closure interval for TB!. If I only check my POP3 account for mail, the closure is immediate. Is this normal for TB! to have a longer lag time closing with IMAP? Note: Before I exit TB! checking the IMAP account log tells me that the session is finished. I do not synchronize or compress any folders upon exit. I do not remove old messages upon exit. I perform regular folder maintenance. My AGAVA anti-spam plug-in removed makes no difference in closing. I have no other plug-ins. My temp files are cleaned. OS maintenance is tuned regularly. I'm on a cable broadband line. I'm not aware of any security app that is scanning TB! on exit to cause this closing delay. Thanks for any help. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam locking TheBat!
Hello Marek, Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 12:47:23 AM, you wrote: one user reported me this problem, but when he upgraded to latest final 3.62.14, problem was solved. I will try upgrading...thanks. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam locking TheBat!
Hello Jack, Tuesday, November 29, 2005, 6:19:13 PM, you wrote: Yep. I had a similar email which would do the same thing. I found that if I changed the VIEW so that the body of the email wouldn't display, I could delete it. How did you discover this work around? Thanks will give it a try before I upgrade. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Yahoogroups and GMX
Hello Thomas F everyone else, on 30-Nov-2005 at 02:33 you (Thomas F) wrote: !29/11/2005, 21:53:32: SEND - Server reports it is not ready, reply: 4.3.2 and see( http://www.gmx.net/serverrules ) Yahoogroups suspended sending to me and reports Hard Bounce, with server reply: *sigh* GMX and Yahoogroups. This goes back to the time when Yahoogroups was called eGroups was called OneList. Last Bounced Message Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 ( http://www.gmx.net/serverrules ) [RCPT_TO] What is this nonsense? Has GMX gone crazy? Does anybody with a GMX address experience the same? What I noticed is: If you send to a GMX address from a GMX address, but the sending mail server is not within the GMX network, GMX will refuse the deliver the message. This is an antispam measure (goes into the same direction as SPF). Maybe YG doesn't add the propper return-path header or something, I don't know. The GMX smtp probably can't determine that it is a message from a listmailer. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The present, like a note in music, is nothing but as it appertains to what is past and what is to come. -- Walter Savage Landor Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam locking TheBat!
Hello Jack S. LaRosa everyone else, on 30-Nov-2005 at 03:19 you (Jack S. LaRosa) wrote: TGM Has anyone had a similar problem? Yep. I had a similar email which would do the same thing. I found that if I changed the VIEW so that the body of the email wouldn't display, I could delete it. Maybe you should forward the entire message to some of the developers, or file a bug report on the Ritlabs bugtracker page and attach the problematic message to it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB won't close after connection centre hangs
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:07:07 + GMT, Admin wrote:
I have, as sig says, gone back to 3.51.10 because I need the template
funstionality that
is broken from then on.
However, I now have the problem that comes with that version:
The connection centre hangs on random accounts and the process cannot be
aborted. The only
waiy out being to kill TB service in the Task Manager.
Was there ever a 'fix' whatever identified for this problem or did it just
'go away' with
the next version?
I had problems with this in the past, 3.62.x and/or switching to
Bayes Filter Plugin made the problem go away for me.
I have had hangs since but only if I do like this (not every time ;{:
1. Check mail
2. Mail is being downloaded and filtered.
3. The first mails appear in the Mail Ticker.
4. Double click on the Mail Ticker before the Connection Centre is
done, and then the downloading of mail just stops and I have to
close The Bat! from the Task Manager.
Sometimes I also have problems with the Connection Centre just
staying active, without any visible tasks. Just exiting The Bat! and
starting it again will fix that problem nicely.
Hope it helps ;)
--
/Fredrik
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Re: spam locking TheBat!
Hello Alexander, Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 8:31:16 AM, you wrote: Maybe you should forward the entire message to some of the developers, or file a bug report on the Ritlabs bugtracker page and attach the problematic message to it. I could do this since a couple of these e-mails are still on my ISP server. I just don't know who to forward the e-mail to. I don't think it would be good to forward to tech support (but maybe I am wrong). Have never filed a bug report don't know where to start. Sorry...maybe with some direction I could give it a try. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam locking TheBat!
Hello Terry! On Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 11:24 AM, you wrote: Have never filed a bug report don't know where to start. Sorry...maybe with some direction I could give it a try. Go here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php Click on Sign Up for a New Account. Hint: write your user name and password down after you choose them. If you lose either, it's sometimes hard to get the BT software to let you back in: Setting up another account or else clicking on Lost your password sometimes won't work. Not always, but it *has* happened and can be frustrating. When you have your account set up, log in and click on Report Issue. I think you'll be able to take it from there, but if not, come back here with your problem. There were a couple of places on Report Issue that I didn't understand how to proceed, when I first made a BT report. For instance, it says, Choose Project with a scrollable menu. After that's set, you still have to click on Select Project. Then the report form page pops up. After that it's pretty straightforward--but there are quite a few pieces of information to be selected from scrollable menus. HTH -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB won't close after connection centre hangs
I had problems with this in the past, 3.62.x and/or switching to Bayes Filter Plugin made the problem go away for me. Yes I find it's OK in 3.62.x but I can't use that at the moment because the templates for new messages from common folders is broken! I was hoping someone would have a fix that was temporary. I will just have to keep killing TB with Task Manager. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bug: major severity, high priority - how long?
Is there anyone there that knows: If a bug is listed as: Reproducibility:always Severity: major Priority: high Status: confirmed How long might one have to wait for it to be fixed? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam locking TheBat!
Hello Mary, Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 9:39:53 AM, you wrote: Click on Sign Up for a New Account. Thanks Mary will give it a try. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB won't close after connection centre hangs
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:03:52 + GMT, Marten wrote: I had problems with this in the past, 3.62.x and/or switching to Bayes Filter Plugin made the problem go away for me. Yes I find it's OK in 3.62.x but I can't use that at the moment because the templates for new messages from common folders is broken! I was hoping someone would have a fix that was temporary. I will just have to keep killing TB with Task Manager. And I guess that you wait until the Connection Centre is done before clicking in the Mail Ticker? ;). Also, if you have any spamcontrolplugin you could disable that, but I guess that if so you have already tried that... Best of luck. -- /Fredrik The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam locking TheBat!
Hello Marek, Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 12:47:23 AM, you wrote: one user reported me this problem, but when he upgraded to latest final 3.62.14, problem was solved. Yes. Upgrading fixed this problem. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
With IMAP how long should it take for TB! to close?
A simple retake of my previous post that had no comments. It takes 4 seconds to close TB! when I use IMAP. It takes a split second to close with POP3. Log says the IMAP session is finished before I close TB! down. *Question to IMAP users* How long does it take for you to close TB! with IMAP? -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE using fastmail on cable Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
folder password protection
Is it possible to set password protection at the folder level or is account level the limit? Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.63.06 (Beta), BayesIt! 0.8.4, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 Skype: janrif Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Automatically adding secondary addresses not working?
Batlovers, In my version of TB! there is a tick box in the Other tab of an address book entry to Automatically add secondary addresses to the BCC field. I have just tried to use it for the first time, only to find that it doesn't appear to work. Has anyone ever used this option? Can anyone confirm that it does or doesn't work on their version of TB!? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Yahoogroups and GMX
Hello Alexander, On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:30:07 +0100 GMT (30/11/2005, 23:30 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK If you send to a GMX address from a GMX address, but the sending mail ASK server is not within the GMX network, GMX will refuse the deliver the ASK message. This is an antispam measure (goes into the same direction as SPF). As I said to our sysad in the office just a few days ago about spam: One false positive is worse than 10 false negatives. ASK Maybe YG doesn't add the propper return-path header or something, I don't ASK know. The GMX smtp probably can't determine that it is a message from a ASK listmailer. I think GMX have fixed their problem now. There must have been thousands of complaints. -- Cheers, Thomas. Compaq is considering changing the command Press Any Key to Press Return Key because of the flood of calls asking where the Any key is. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug: major severity, high priority - how long?
Hello Marten, On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:06:25 + GMT (01/12/2005, 02:06 +0700 GMT), Marten Gallagher wrote: MG If a bug is listed as: MG Reproducibility:always MG Severity: major MG Priority: high MG Status: confirmed MG How long might one have to wait for it to be fixed? As a rule of thumb: Between a few hours and a few years. ;-) It depends on several factors, you see. Something which is always reproduciable and confirmed, is clearly a bug. However, severity is a very subjective thing; it might be a function that is crucial to your way of working, but which is hardly ever used by most people. So the priority has meaning for you, but the developers set their own priorities. That's all theory. If you have a specific bug in mind, please send the full URL here, and we can talk more clearly. -- Cheers, Thomas. Man: Your place or mine? Woman: Both. You go to yours, and I'll go to mine. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically adding secondary addresses not working?
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 08:21:07 +1100 GMT, Robin wrote: In my version of TB! there is a tick box in the Other tab of an address book entry to Automatically add secondary addresses to the BCC field. I have just tried to use it for the first time, only to find that it doesn't appear to work. Has anyone ever used this option? Can anyone confirm that it does or doesn't work on their version of TB!? Works for me, I just added one/two/three more addresses to the E-Mail addresses field and checked the box, when creating a new message (from the address book, with the entry selected) the addresses after the first one is added to BCC. If I made duplicates of the addresses in the list they was not added. -- /Fredrik The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! exit seems slow with IMAP
Hello steverio2k, Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 3:21:42 PM, you wrote: Since adding the IMAP, I noticed a longer delay in TB! closing. Checking my IMAP account for mail at some point will result in a 4 second closure interval for TB!. I have this too. TB takes up to 10 seconds to close with my two IMAP accounts. Just another example of TB's still rough implementation of IMAP, I guess. -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: With IMAP how long should it take for TB! to close?
Hello steverio, Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 11:28:26 PM, you wrote: It takes 4 seconds to close TB! when I use IMAP. It takes a split second to close with POP3. I have just responded to your other message. Some of us have to sleep you know :). This happens here but it's probably one of the least frustrating bugs in TB's current IMAP performance. It's probably the same phenomenon that makes TB so slow at fetching and displaying IMAP messages and part of the way the protocol is implemented in the prog. -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re[2]: Bug: major severity, high priority - how long?
Hello Marten, On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:06:25 + GMT (01/12/2005, 02:06 +0700 GMT), Marten Gallagher wrote: MG If a bug is listed as: MG Reproducibility:always MG Severity: major MG Priority: high MG Status: confirmed MG How long might one have to wait for it to be fixed? As a rule of thumb: Between a few hours and a few years. ;-) It depends on several factors, you see. Something which is always reproduciable and confirmed, is clearly a bug. However, severity is a very subjective thing; it might be a function that is crucial to your way of working, but which is hardly ever used by most people. So the priority has meaning for you, but the developers set their own priorities. That's all theory. If you have a specific bug in mind, please send the full URL here, and we can talk more clearly. The priority was raised to high by a TB person as far as I can tell: quote Marek Mikus - 29 Nov 2005 11:08 -- confirm and priority increased /quote http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5367 -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
