Bat Scheduler and Backups

2006-02-15 Thread Barry
OK, I've managed to avert disaster and recovered by judicious file copying
from my last tape backup. And I've now created a Bat Backup using the
inbuilt backup routine, I ought to know better really!

Now I've discovered that TheBat can process automated backups using the
Scheduler. Brilliant!

Thing is, does TheBat Scheduler require the full Bat application to be
running or does it run as a separate 'service' in the background?

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Re: Bat Scheduler and Backups

2006-02-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo BJH,

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:05:47 +GMT (15-2-2006, 10:05 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

B Thing is, does TheBat Scheduler require the full Bat application to be
B running

Yes.

B or does it run as a separate 'service' in the background?

No such luck. But of course you can keep TB minimized, that's what I
did back when I had just one monitor.

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Re: BitDefender

2006-02-15 Thread vitalie vrabie
Hello Richard,

Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 5:28:50 PM, you wrote:

 I was just reading PCWorld's review of BitDefender, and am wondering
 how well the AV and anti-spam apps work with TB!. Is there a plugin
 for the AV?

actually, the correct saying is exactly the opposite - the AV has a plugin for 
TB. this is because TB is a regular app that has an API that can be published. 
AVs can't quite afford publishing their API, as malware authors can use it and 
claim to be a legitimate app. most AV makers stick to this policy, which seems 
to be quite correct.

just received a response from them, saying that they don't have one (yet?).

no further details that so far, as the discussion is still in progress.


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Re: BitDefender

2006-02-15 Thread wilwilwil
Selon Richard H. Stoddard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I was just reading PCWorld's review of BitDefender, and am wondering
 how well the AV and anti-spam apps work with TB!. Is there a plugin
 for the AV? I'm currently using Avast Professional and have generally
 been satisfied with it. I'm not prone to switching just based on one
 review, but am wondering whether anyone has had experience with either
 BitDefender AV or antispam apps.


I just tested the 10 most awarded AV for my CIE last month.

BitDefender seems to be a very good product. I tested the Internet Security
Version that includes a firewall, an AV, an antispyware and parental control.

Note that the AV module takes a lot of CPU resources if you keep the default
options. The resident AV module has to be tuned...

For work with TB, BitDefender AV module cause troubles in receipt. It seems that
all mails are wall receipt, but your logs grow cause of messages about trouble
with pop protocol. I asked Ritlabs support for help, but no answer except an
answer saying to increase the time out delay. But problems go on...

Bitdefender Softwin has no answer too about thos problem.

In end, note that the antispam module of Internet Security Version of
bitdefender is to aggressive, even if you tune to minimum filter... And the
Bayesian system is static with TB, it doesn't learn with new mails : this
feature works well only with outlook.

After several deep tests of the top 10 of AV, I've chosen G DATA Antivirus Kit
2006 for these reasons :
It is well reviewed and awarded.
It finds all the viruses and spywares introduced in the test computer. Resident
is reactive and scan is efficient. Note that This AV uses ebgine of kaspersky +
engine of bitdefender !!! Dual technology without decrease of CPU and RAM.
It is cheaper than the others.
It does not consume too much resources.
The support helps you if you have questions.
It works well with TB : I didn't find any bug or troubles using TB with
AntivirusKit of G Data.

The only thing that is not good with G data is that you can test the product but
you can't update the definitions with the trial version... (Note that with
definitions out of date, G Data find viruses not detected by others up to
date...)

Others products tested by me are : Bitdefender, Nod32, Panda Titanium, Steganos,
Kaspersky, Grisoft AV Pro, AVAST.

Here is my ranking as a user of TB :
Gdata AntivirusKit 2006
Bitdefender AV Pro (InternetSecurity version is to loud)
Steganos (same as kaspersky but cheaper)
Nod32
AVG (for the plugin, but not for is bad detection (more than 10 viruses and
spywares not detected)
AVAST (not so bat for a free AV : excellent as resident, a little bad for
detected old viruses on the HDD)

Bye,


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Re[2]: BitDefender

2006-02-15 Thread WilWilWil

wff After several deep tests of the top 10 of AV, I've chosen G DATA Antivirus 
Kit
wff 2006 for these reasons :
After 3 days of use with Gdata Antivirus Kit, MSN Messenger doesn't work 
anymore. My Opera failed systematically, and TB can't connect 

I APologize for my previous analyze : Do your own tests with this AV because it 
seems to occurs a lot of bugs !!!


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Re: BitDefender

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello WilWilWil  everyone else,

on 15-Feb-2006 at 22:16 you (WilWilWil) wrote:

wff After several deep tests of the top 10 of AV, I've chosen G DATA 
Antivirus Kit
wff 2006 for these reasons :

 After 3 days of use with Gdata Antivirus Kit, MSN Messenger doesn't work
 anymore. My Opera failed systematically, and TB can't connect 

Disable the HTTP/web scanner part.

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Re[2]: BitDefender

2006-02-15 Thread WilWilWil

 After 3 days of use with Gdata Antivirus Kit, MSN Messenger doesn't work
 anymore. My Opera failed systematically, and TB can't connect 

ASK Disable the HTTP/web scanner part.

Just do that... No more connection ! :-(
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Re[2]: Bat Scheduler and Backups

2006-02-15 Thread Marten Gallagher
B Thing is, does TheBat Scheduler require the full Bat application to be
B running

And could someone remind me the way of changing the name of the backup file
to add the date/time so that a new backup file is created each time.

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Re: Bat Scheduler and Backups

2006-02-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Marten,

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:29:29 +GMT (16-2-2006, 0:29 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

MG And could someone remind me the way of changing the name of the backup file
MG to add the date/time so that a new backup file is created each time.

I've set it as backup to standard backup file with the name:
D:\Mijn Backups\The Bat!\%Date=MMDD.tbk

Works fine, just as I was taught recently.

MG --

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Re[2]: BitDefender

2006-02-15 Thread Richard H. Stoddard
Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 4:26:12 PM, you wrote:

vv Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 5:28:50 PM, you wrote:

 I was just reading PCWorld's review of BitDefender, and am wondering
 how well the AV and anti-spam apps work with TB!. Is there a plugin
 for the AV?

vv actually, the correct saying is exactly the opposite - the AV has
vv a plugin for TB. this is because TB is a regular app that has an
vv API that can be published. AVs can't quite afford publishing their
vv API, as malware authors can use it and claim to be a legitimate
vv app. most AV makers stick to this policy, which seems to be quite
vv correct.

Sorry for not being more precise. I was asking whether the AV has a
plugin for TB! rather than whether the anti-spam utility has a plugin.

I did download a trial version of their anti-spam utility, but haven't
tried it yet.

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