Re: Bad crash... HELP!
Hello Jernej, On Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 11:16:30 PM, which was 8:06:40 AM where I am, you wrote: JS On Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 23:07:21, Chris wrote: You probably don't want to here this, but you hard drive may be bad. After you recover the messages, I'd back everything up and run something like SpinRite on the drive. JS Err, SpinRite is a scam, don't use it. I bought it to recover my daughter's files on a memory stick. I was unsuccessful. SpinRite would access the hard disks, but not the memory stick. They reimbursed - no questions asked. -- Regards, Maurice Using The Bat! 3.80.06 on Windows XP Pro 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyMacros - where do I get it?
Hallo vitalie, On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 04:27:06 +0300GMT (1-6-2006, 3:27 +0200, where I live), you wrote: VV now, maybe i'm just too lucky and get out of luck in finding the VV page with the bad link... what is its URL so we can fix it? http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download_plugins.php gives a proper download link for MyMacros, but a 404 on the site link, same goes for the site link of TBPajsMacro. -- Groetjes, Roelof Water floats a ship...Water sinks a ship. Old Chinese Proverb The Bat! 3.80.06 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpd9Ju03nj4w.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bad crash... HELP!
On Thursday, June 1, 2006, 8:17:37, Maurice McAdam wrote: JS Err, SpinRite is a scam, don't use it. I bought it to recover my daughter's files on a memory stick. I was unsuccessful. SpinRite would access the hard disks, but not the memory stick. They reimbursed - no questions asked. SpinRite doesn't do anything that the free tools offered by the disk manufacturers don't already do. BTW, Sony recently released a tool for rescuing data from memory sticks, it's available here: http://www.sonydigital-link.com/memstick/downloads/downloads_ms.asp?l=enf=MS_Rescue Anyway, this is off-topic for TBUDL, so the discussion should continue on TBOT. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ The easier it is to do, the harder it is to change. -- Eng's Principles Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Incredimail testimonials ?
I do not have any opinion, but just afraid about spyware and trojans or worms... Spyware during install, and worms and trojans during using it, and for recipients of mails made by Incredimail ! vv Microsoft Virtual Server is freeware since February this year. got the hint? :) Excuse me, I'm not an IT expert, and I don't understand the relation / link between Incredimail and Ms Virtual Server ? -- Wil :flag-france: TB 3.80.03 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachments pane lost
Hello Everyone! For several days now, the attachments pane has not been showing for me in the View Folder window. Instead, there's a small text at the end of the message (below the sig) to click on in order to view the attachment. This is true both for text-document attachments and jpegs, gifs, etc. In the View Folder Window's View menu, I have Attached Files/Hide (to pane) checked and also Attached Files/Pane on the left checked. However, if I uncheck this, the unchecking does not stick. Confirmations that it does not stick in other people's copies of The Bat! ? I haven't changed any settings that I can remember, and I can't find a setting in View, or in Account/Properties, or in Options/Preferences that will give me the attachments pane back. Was this a change in v. 3.80.06 and I simply missed noticing it--and there is no longer an attachments pane in the View Folder window? Or have I inadvertently changed the setting that includes an attachments pane? Note Besides: The MicroEd Edit Mail Message window still displays the attachments pane for me. Just not the View Folder window where one reads incoming messages. TIA for any and all help! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments pane lost
Hello to myself and anyone else reading this thread!! On Thursday, June 01, 2006, 10:55 AM, Mary wrote: For several days now, the attachments pane has not been showing for me in the View Folder window. Sorry for prematurely bothering everyone--I've now displayed an old message with about a dozen attachments, and in this one I was able to discern the dividing line between the attachments pane and the message body. By dragging the line, I got the pane to show again. ... In the View Folder Window's View menu, I have Attached Files/Hide (to pane) checked and also Attached Files/Pane on the left checked. However, if I uncheck this, the unchecking does not stick. Confirmations that it does not stick in other people's copies of The Bat! ? This bad behaviour still exists for me. Again, any confirmations? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bad crash... HELP!
It looks like you've done almost everything that you could try. Last option with TB is to put the .tbb files in folders. (Forget about the .tbi, they'll only cause problems in this kind of situations.) And release folder maintenance on these folders. Folder maintenance might result in a valid .tbb file with one or more part000?.bin files, rename those to messages.tbb (in a safe location) and try to import from the renamed .bin file. No go in both scenarii... When this doesn't help try a text editor. Both the .tbb as the .bin files are straight text, so with a text editor you might be able to retrieve something manually. No go... The text shows the beginning of the first message's header then is all garbled. That is NOT cool TB... What a disappointment. I was able to re-import main inbox messages from a TB copy that was several weeks old, looks like I'm out of luck for all the recent stuff but thanks SO MUCH for your help anyway Roelof, it's very much appreciated. And to those who were kindly trying to help with hard drive issues, that's not where the problem was. It appears that the removable enclosure for one of my drives went bad (rare!) which in turn messed up Diskeeper, which is turn locked up everything... And no, Diskeeper had no business doing that, my thinking is that its service is running at a way-too-low level on the OS. Best regards, Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Hello vitalie, On Wed, 31 May 2006 22:55:30 +0300 GMT (01/06/2006, 02:55 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: vv by the way. the experience i've had in Romania was the best one vv with public computers. as a matter of rule, all of the public vv computers there did boot from the LAN, then filled the HD from an vv image on the LAN, then booted Windows. they didn't disable vv anything, they just make damn sure that any of the user's actions vv won't affect the next user. very simple and quite straightforward. vv and they did this cleanup right after the user decides to leave, vv thus not only being quickly ready for the next user, but showing vv this user how traces are wiped to keep him/her calm. We have something that sounds similar to this at our university. You can run any file you want on the user PCs, and you can save your work, which many people do on the desktop. Once the computer is shut down and rebooted, it is the original again, all saved or downloaded files gone. BTW the original setup includes an AV software, and the signature files would be on the server, I'd think. -- Cheers, Thomas. Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink whatever comes out? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.06 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hello Richard, On Wed, 31 May 2006 06:44:34 +0500 GMT (31/05/2006, 08:44 +0700 GMT), Richard H. Stoddard wrote: RHS I checked with our systems manager, and they do not allow any programs RHS to be installed or to run, even when contained on a flash drive. Guess RHS I'm out of luck, at least for now. Sad to hear that. -- Cheers, Thomas. Er rannte ohne Beute davon, wurde aber von der Ueberwachungskamera noch festgehalten. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.06 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incredimail testimonials ?
hi, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 6:49:00 PM, you wrote: I do not have any opinion, but just afraid about spyware and trojans or worms... Spyware during install, and worms and trojans during using it, and for recipients of mails made by Incredimail ! vv Microsoft Virtual Server is freeware since February this year. got the hint? :) Excuse me, I'm not an IT expert, and I don't understand the relation / link between Incredimail and Ms Virtual Server ? it has something to do with the worms/trojans you are afraid of bringing to your computer. -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
hi, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 8:09:22 PM, you wrote: We have something that sounds similar to this at our university. You can run any file you want on the user PCs, and you can save your work, which many people do on the desktop. Once the computer is shut down and rebooted, it is the original again, all saved or downloaded files gone. BTW the original setup includes an AV software, and the signature files would be on the server, I'd think. sure, many universities do have this for at least a decade. but not so many graduates do indeed figure out how to provide this *commercially* and be able to make a living. :) Voyager's target market is, let's be honest, by far not only undergraduates in academic environments. what are the chances that someone on travel will go to some university lab and not to a simple cafe to do emailing? -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
hi, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 8:11:24 PM, you wrote: RHS I checked with our systems manager, and they do not allow any programs RHS to be installed or to run, even when contained on a flash drive. Guess RHS I'm out of luck, at least for now. Sad to hear that. LOL. i bet that mgr/admin is a graduate of some military high. :) -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Incredimail testimonials ?
vv it has something to do with the worms/trojans you are afraid of bringing to your computer. Is that to say that I have to install MS Virtual Server, and I will no have such problems of worms or trojans ? Humm, I go to the Web site to discover this MS Soft. Thanks, -- Wil :flag-france: TB 3.80.03 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incredimail testimonials ?
hi, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 9:21:01 PM, you wrote: Is that to say that I have to install MS Virtual Server, and I will no have such problems of worms or trojans ? you'll just have a separate comp for that. and including its HD rollback abilities, it's in fact a pleasure for various experiments. 'nuff said. i'm not paid to advertise msft... -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Hello vitalie, On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 21:01:08 +0300 GMT (02/06/2006, 01:01 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: vv sure, many universities do have this for at least a decade. but vv not so many graduates do indeed figure out how to provide this vv *commercially* and be able to make a living. :) True, but not my point. I just wanted to say that our IT department does have some good sides. They also just blocked port 25. I cannot send with TB from my home computer anymore when I'm connected via the university. Probably another security measure, but it makes the free dial-up pretty useless. vv Voyager's target market is, let's be honest, by far not only vv undergraduates in academic environments. what are the chances that vv someone on travel will go to some university lab and not to a vv simple cafe to do emailing? I agree with you on this. -- Cheers, Thomas. Our parents were never our age. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.06 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
hi, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 9:57:14 PM, you wrote: They also just blocked port 25. I cannot send with TB from my home computer anymore when I'm connected via the university. Probably another security measure, but it makes the free dial-up pretty useless. start some ISP business and this measure as an attempt to build a customer base. another way to make a living upon graduation. why not, eventually? :) -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Hello vitalie, On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 22:17:18 +0300 GMT (02/06/2006, 02:17 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: vv another way to make a living upon graduation. I've already graduated - I teach there! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Subway: We Are Not Public Transportation, Dammit http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.06 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
hi, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 10:34:22 PM, you wrote: vv another way to make a living upon graduation. I've already graduated - I teach there! ;-) even better. as a customer you'll provide ROI for their education. ;) -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Incredimail testimonials ?
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : vv hi, vv Friday, May 26, 2006, 6:27:42 PM, you wrote: I do not have any opinion, but just afraid about spyware and trojans or worms... Spyware during install, and worms and trojans during using it, and for recipients of mails made by Incredimail ! vv Microsoft Virtual Server is freeware since February this year. got the hint? :) Still has a lot to catch up when compared to VMWare. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Wait! I'll be right down! Save me a couple of glasses of i Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Incredimail testimonials ?
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : vv hi, vv Thursday, June 1, 2006, 9:21:01 PM, you wrote: Is that to say that I have to install MS Virtual Server, and I will no have such problems of worms or trojans ? vv you'll just have a separate comp for that. vv and including its HD rollback abilities, it's in fact a pleasure for various experiments. vv 'nuff said. i'm not paid to advertise msft... And, honestly, VMWare is a lot better... at least for now. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Fanaticism: Redoubling effort when your aim is forgotten. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Voyager
Vitalie, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 11:03:12 PM, you wrote: vv LOL. i bet that mgr/admin is a graduate of some military high. :) No, we just work for the government. There's some logic in locking down that many desktops; no telling what people would install if they were able to. But I was hoping that Voyager would be okay. -- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
