Re; Running The Bat! on Mac OSX
Hello TBUDL, I have a Mac G4 Powerbook running OSX. Is it possible to run The Bat! on this machine with the help of some emulation software. Thank you. -- Love and Light, Granville mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re; Running The Bat! on Mac OSX
Monday, October 9, 2006, Granville Cousins wrote: I have a Mac G4 Powerbook running OSX. Is it possible to run The Bat! on this machine with the help of some emulation software. What about Wine? http://darwine.opendarwin.org/ -- Urban To prevent head colds, use an agonizer to spray into the nose until it drips into the throat. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with purging
Hello Richard, On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 20:26:08 +0500 GMT (08/10/2006, 22:26 +0700 GMT), Richard H. Stoddard wrote: RHS I'm having problems with purging folders. I've set several folders RHS with either a maximum number of messages or a maximum retention RHS period. Most of the time this does not work, meaning they aren't RHS purged when the conditions are met. I just recently set a folder to RHS purge after one year, and it deleted only messages received today, RHS provided they'd been read. Are the old messages read or unread? There is a setting somewhere that only read messages are deleted, but that can be switched. However, today's messages should not be deleted, and it doesn't happen here either. -- Cheers, Thomas. When your dad is mad and asks you, 'Do I look stupid?' don't answer. - Hannah, age 9 http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problems with purging
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas, Monday, October 9, 2006, 8:12:05 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Richard, TF Are the old messages read or unread? There is a setting somewhere that TF only read messages are deleted, but that can be switched. Some are read, some are unread. It purges nothing at all, regardless of whether I set it to delete message beyond a certain date or above a certain number. It used to work fine, but the last couple of versions it hasn't; I kept hoping that whatever was causing it would be located and fixed, but obviously it hasn't, so I decided to post here to see if anyone else is having this problem. TF However, today's messages should not be deleted, and it doesn't happen TF here either. Agreed it shouldn't happen. I was rather frustrated, to put it mildly, because that did not go to the trash folder, which is the default. They simply disappeared. - -- Rick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBRSprrbrieAXxW2ntEQJUEACfdP9g+wwHU4ry9VhSVEAniUjZ+7EAnRCK Var0wf5yZLhOm7IjeVnaMW23 =xWDn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with purging
Richard, On 08-10-2006 17:26, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm using the latest release (3.85.03) Is this a common bug or is it unique to me? I have the same problem. For IMAP folders, this does not work at all. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.85.03 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 4 POP3, 9 IMAP (UWIMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problems with purging
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter, Monday, October 9, 2006, 8:00:43 PM, you wrote: PF I have the same problem. For IMAP folders, this does not work at PF all. FYI, I'm not using IMAP. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBRSpwuLrieAXxW2ntEQIuXQCgyNzxs4ndc+0EF7G1EntMW22UzCYAoNIH CkihQlUxGI6GX02u+3rpmQZp =ZIER -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with Address Book
I am currently using the business edition 2.01.3 on a PC using XP Pro with plenty of memory and hard drive space. I need to set up groups within a major address book. Let's call the address book Club.I need four or more groups within that. Club Class A Members Class B Members Class C Members Class D Members To complicate the matter, one person can be in two or more groups. Question 1 - I can set up the groups with no problem, but if I enter the people in a group, they do not show up in the overall Club list. If I enter them in the overall Club list and mark them as being in a group on the Properties page, then they disappear from the overall Club list and show up only in the Group list. How do I get them to show up in both places so that I have the choice of sending a mailing to all the members in the Club list or only to members of a specific group? Question 2 - Also, sometimes, the same name shows up twice in a group and if I delete one of them, they will occasionally both disappear. Why? Question 3 - When I try to delete a listing for a person, I get some kind of message that makes no sense to me at all: The group ___ hides its items unless it is specifically selected. Do you want to remove items associated only with this group from the address book? What does this mean? I can make no sense out of that message at all. Question 4 - Do later versions correct some of the problems I'm having? Mike Greenbaum Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Address Book
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 09:36:34 -0700, Mike wrote: Question 1 - I can set up the groups with no problem, but if I enter the people in a group, they do not show up in the overall Club list. If I enter them in the overall Club list and mark them as being in a group on the Properties page, then they disappear from the overall Club list and show up only in the Group list. How do I get them to show up in both places so that I have the choice of sending a mailing to all the members in the Club list or only to members of a specific group? Edit the properties of the group so that Hide items if not explicitly selected is not ticked. The purpose of this is (to quote from the help) When checked (default) contacts are shown only in the Group but not in the root the group belongs to. Question 2 - Also, sometimes, the same name shows up twice in a group and if I delete one of them, they will occasionally both disappear. Why? Don't know Question 3 - When I try to delete a listing for a person, I get some kind of message that makes no sense to me at all: The group ___ hides its items unless it is specifically selected. Do you want to remove items associated only with this group from the address book? What does this mean? I can make no sense out of that message at all. Relates to the answer to question 1. It's asking if you just want to remove it from the group, or also from the address book. PS. You have no cut mark towards the end of your message. This is required by the group rules and it is used because some email clients (including, of course, TB) automatically strip off everything after the cut mark when replying. A cut mark consists of dash dash space on a line by itself. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with Address Book
Robin, Thanks. That partially helped. But I had 6 items in the group and, after unticking the Hide items line, four of them now do show up in the root list, but two do not. Does it matter whether I created the item originally in the root list or in the group list? Any way to change this without totally retyping items? I had never heard of cut marks, but I'll try to remember to include them. I assume they go after my signature? Where would they go on a reply like this? I also put them under my signature here. Mike -- On Monday, October 09, 2006, Robin Anson wrote: On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 09:36:34 -0700, Mike wrote: Question 1 - I can set up the groups with no problem, but if I enter the people in a group, they do not show up in the overall Club list. If I enter them in the overall Club list and mark them as being in a group on the Properties page, then they disappear from the overall Club list and show up only in the Group list. How do I get them to show up in both places so that I have the choice of sending a mailing to all the members in the Club list or only to members of a specific group? Edit the properties of the group so that Hide items if not explicitly selected is not ticked. The purpose of this is (to quote from the help) When checked (default) contacts are shown only in the Group but not in the root the group belongs to. Question 2 - Also, sometimes, the same name shows up twice in a group and if I delete one of them, they will occasionally both disappear. Why? Don't know Question 3 - When I try to delete a listing for a person, I get some kind of message that makes no sense to me at all: The group ___ hides its items unless it is specifically selected. Do you want to remove items associated only with this group from the address book? What does this mean? I can make no sense out of that message at all. Relates to the answer to question 1. It's asking if you just want to remove it from the group, or also from the address book. PS. You have no cut mark towards the end of your message. This is required by the group rules and it is used because some email clients (including, of course, TB) automatically strip off everything after the cut mark when replying. A cut mark consists of dash dash space on a line by itself. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with purging
Hi On Monday 9 October 2006 at 4:33:06 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard H. Stoddard wrote: It used to work fine, but the last couple of versions it hasn't; I kept hoping that whatever was causing it would be located and fixed, but obviously it hasn't, so I decided to post here to see if anyone else is having this problem. Are you purging via folder maintenance or automatically via the on exit settings on the folder properties/additional tab? The on exit, compress checkbox used to be selected by default when you created a folder but not any more. Don't know if this applied to the remove old messages box. -- Best regards, MFPA Change is inevitable except from a vending machine Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Address Book
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 14:32:23 -0700, Mike wrote: Thanks. That partially helped. But I had 6 items in the group and, after unticking the Hide items line, four of them now do show up in the root list, but two do not. Hmm, I'm not sure how that could be the case. Look at the address book entry itself (i.e. select Properties on the item) and on the first tab you should see both the address book and the group listed. Try unselecting the group that page and see if the entry reappears in the root list. Does it matter whether I created the item originally in the root list or in the group list? It shouldn't Any way to change this without totally retyping items? Try as above I had never heard of cut marks, but I'll try to remember to include them. I assume they go after my signature? They go at the end of the content of your message. It could go after your name, or (as mine does) before your name. No one seems much fussed by that. But if you have other stuff like cookies or system configuration, it should go before that. Where would they go on a reply like this? I also put them under my signature here. That was fine, and it worked properly. Do you have a separate template for this list? If so, it's useful to put the cut mark and your system configuration in it. Something like: -- Mike Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION %- Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION That gives you a signature much like mine below. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with Address Book
Robin: Interesting. When I unchecked the groups on the item's properties in the group list, the item reappeared in the root list and disappeared from the group list (as expected), but when I then went to the properties for the item in the root list and checked them, the person disappeared again from the root list and reappeared in the group list. Can't seem to keep this item in both places, even though other items in that group are in both places. Mike -- On Monday, October 09, 2006, Robin Anson wrote: On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 14:32:23 -0700, Mike wrote: Thanks. That partially helped. But I had 6 items in the group and, after unticking the Hide items line, four of them now do show up in the root list, but two do not. Hmm, I'm not sure how that could be the case. Look at the address book entry itself (i.e. select Properties on the item) and on the first tab you should see both the address book and the group listed. Try unselecting the group that page and see if the entry reappears in the root list. Does it matter whether I created the item originally in the root list or in the group list? It shouldn't Any way to change this without totally retyping items? Try as above I had never heard of cut marks, but I'll try to remember to include them. I assume they go after my signature? They go at the end of the content of your message. It could go after your name, or (as mine does) before your name. No one seems much fussed by that. But if you have other stuff like cookies or system configuration, it should go before that. Where would they go on a reply like this? I also put them under my signature here. That was fine, and it worked properly. Do you have a separate template for this list? If so, it's useful to put the cut mark and your system configuration in it. Something like: -- Mike Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION %- Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION That gives you a signature much like mine below. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Messages forwarded automatically by a filter dropping attachments
Hi If I forward a message automatically using an incoming filter, the message loses all attachments. If I do it by selecting the message and picking forward from the context menu, the attachments are forwarded along with the message. Is this by design? Is it possible to automatically forward certain messages complete with their attachments? (The attachments in question are generally .HTML, .pdf, or .doc) -- Best regards, MFPA The One with The Answer is seldom asked The Question Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages forwarded automatically by a filter dropping attachments
MFPA, On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, at 01:00:56 [GMT +0100] (10:00:56 10/10/2006 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Is it possible to automatically forward certain messages complete with their attachments? (The attachments in question are generally .HTML, .pdf, or .doc) Check that you do not have a tick in Do not include attachments in the filter. -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages forwarded automatically by a filter dropping attachments
MFPA, On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, at 01:00:56 [GMT +0100] (10:00:56 10/10/2006 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Also suggest you upgrade both XP Bat. -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re; Running The Bat! on Mac OSX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 9 Oct 2006, @ @ at 16:02:21 +0200, when Urban wrote: Monday, October 9, 2006, Granville Cousins wrote: I have a Mac G4 Powerbook running OSX. Is it possible to run The Bat! on this machine with the help of some emulation software. What about Wine? http://darwine.opendarwin.org/ Wine is fine, and is better and better. I just had tried out the other day the version coming in Knoppix 5.0.1 (I have installed it on hard disk for some other reasons) and TB runs much better then with previous Wine version(s). Installation consists of copying Bat's folder (and its Mail sub-folder at the default place, otherwise will hardly work) in the /.wine/fake_windows directorium (or in /.wine/fake_windows/Program Files, if someone prefers), and then just typing in anywhere wine thebat.exe. (The /fake_windows folder is the equivalent to the Windows' C:\, the root folder of the drive C, for those who are puzzled what we talk about.) All other methods of installation are more complicated and less successful. And yes, prior to that, you have to export Bat's .reg file, and then to import it via Wine into the fake Registry (wine regedit.exe), that is if you want your settings and the rest (p)reserved. And prior to that, yes, you have to run winetools, to make this fake windows environment firstly (Start (the button) | Emulators | Winetools). (-: It will take few seconds more. *** Knoppix is very easy to install on HD and takes about 20 minutes. You just type in... sudo ./knoppix-installer ...and it makes the whole system on HDD, entirely tweaked like on the live CD, which means excellently. Bestially stable and precise system (also very good looking), one of the best done Linuxes around (despite the author's, Her Knopper's, disclaimer that it is still in very experimental, therefore not of the cell division, menstrual, lunar and so, phase). - -- Mica ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From field, otherwise it will not reach me. ~~~ GPG keys/docs/software at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 i686 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRSroBrSpHvHEUtv8AQjA2Af/emg0Pc5IGIfyAyG7UKt6HqR4XJ0dK0V5 DlBOcgTjpy7VDqT6nIQEzDwPz5C/qrfDWqoMhSL7BgUR3t1Brw3iuzt3HF73Gp9Q sWATAqHHNwTd9FRgRpVwp+4tnlo/8OL3cKVRBq6VO7PJDcQCaQEjXqpGr7BoDBEi voN5/MoYEdzoGYx9RM12jmYEFGqmgvUbQeuB2ddoZ1IfxzAcqTq+Pgzf7Ql4iCZZ sjvh3R5EeJnku/3j1QblGBRWaHwj7urS1XoHOeqUSYfy76uwuveM7gtMMOG2z442 utzYshwDlSrvz8lrpoYmohufbbN2TeJ4HU0J0lEZJB4DzfO2TprMkg== =u8mp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problems with purging
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 2:41:40 AM, you wrote: M Are you purging via folder maintenance or automatically via the M on exit settings on the folder properties/additional tab? I use both: maintenance runs every morning before the backup, but I also have it set to purge on exit. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBRSr5d7rieAXxW2ntEQIpBACfQq1S/nzRnZYLL79Agu2Hyzu08c8AoOhW IWzkMHn3TIu4gpGXheyMBXtz =WjAl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Address Book
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 16:19:40 -0700, Mike wrote: When I unchecked the groups on the item's properties in the group list, the item reappeared in the root list and disappeared from the group list (as expected), but when I then went to the properties for the item in the root list and checked them, the person disappeared again from the root list and reappeared in the group list. Just check that Hide items if not explicitly selected is unticked in the properties of ALL the groups, otherwise you will get behaviour like that. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection to host broken
Hello TBUDL, I have been noticing lately that an error message has been showing up quite often that states: Fetch - Connection to host broken (last commands sent were: STAT, QUIT) does anyone know what is going on here? -- Best regards, Tim The Bat! v3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
use the size of the window instead of wrap
How can I make/receive emails that go the width of the window instead of wrapping at 75 characters? So, if I resize the window, the text with in the message is reformated to fit the window instead of a set width. -- Scott Windows XP The Bat 3.80.06 Popfile Spam Filter http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Account Alerts / take The Bat offline for a moment
Is there any way to make something in the account window change colors/icons when an account attempts to get mail and it fails? Yes, down in the log file is a nice note saying such, but when you look at a column of 30 accounts (of varying domains) and hear that failed sound, its annoying to scroll thru each account watching the log file to see which account is not working. Also, is there a way to take TheBat offline (not changing the settings with in the accounts) and have it just not check for new mail?? Like when I know I am not connected to the internet and want to open TheBat to see a message OR I just need TheBat to stop trying for a moment while I am doing something else... -- Scott Windows XP The Bat 3.80.06 Popfile Spam Filter http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
