Mod: Top posting (was: Voyager)
Hallo koenraad, On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:06:42 +0700GMT (18-11-2008, 4:06, where I live), you wrote: KR mail on about every system visited! KR tracer0 KR On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello Dave, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out koenraad. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Support the use of low yield nuclear devices for Moderators! pgpX6qUtr8xP5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Voyager)
Ok, but if you open the box to answer, the cursor sits at the top. I used to start adding messages at the bottom.. After quite a few complaints I swapped to adding at the top but no problem. I prefer adding down the message anyway. second item, a bit difficult to read I see as I just deleted it! Anyway I had problems in the past when trying voyager as after a system crash how do you find your mail if it has disappeared. Last item, I installed antivirus pro (2009) but I think it is a fake product as Icon is wrong various other things and for sure its not Comodo's icon set. Software comes from their website. Tracer Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hello Roelof, On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:24:54 +0100 GMT (18/11/2008, 18:24 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: KR If you get a crash though or a virus , how do you get the voyager KR messages back into the bat... Extensions arent the same! RO The extensions are the same for Voyager and TB with OTFE. So when you RO use the same master password for Voyager and TB you can easily import RO the messages.ebb files from Voyager into TB. And if you don't use OTFE, you can still create a backup from Voyager and restore into TB!. -- Cheers, Thomas. If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Voyager)
Hi On Tuesday 18 November 2008 at 12:14:09 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], koenraad rutgers wrote: Ok, but if you open the box to answer, the cursor sits at the top. The cursor will sit wherever your reply template tells it to sit. I used to start adding messages at the bottom.. After quite a few complaints I swapped to adding at the top but no problem. People probably complained about having to scroll down to find your message - if they even noticed you had not just returned their message without adding a reply (-; I prefer adding down the message anyway. second item, a bit difficult to read I see as I just deleted it! It's generally difficult to read something you've deleted! Anyway I had problems in the past when trying voyager as after a system crash how do you find your mail if it has disappeared. Options would include:- * a backup you made shortly before the system crash * using the dispatcher to download messages again if you kept them on the server * data recovery tools/services * a very good memory -- Best regards, MFPA Zorba the Greek - before he zorbas you Using The Bat! v4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hi On Sunday 16 November 2008 at 12:29:21 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom wrote: I normally use TB on my desktop but will be travelling shortly. I could just log on to my accounts via webmail but would miss my many templates that make life so much easier. If I upgraded to Pro and then downloaded voyager (free?), how could I then make use of it during my travels with a laptop? If you are taking your own laptop, you could just duplicate your TB! setup from your desktop PC onto your laptop. No need to upgrade to Pro or to try Voyager(-; You may need different settings to send mail from a different location (for example, if the mail server is at your ISP and requires connecting via their network). You would need to integrate the messages you received on your laptop while travelling into the messagebase on your PC after your return. -- Best regards, MFPA Hard work never killed anyone, but why take a risk? Using The Bat! v4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave messages on server
Hi On Monday 17 November 2008 at 8:00:28 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Marek Mikus wrote: Hello all, Monday, November 17, 2008, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: The question is -- What happens after the x days have elapsed? Are ALL the messages on the server deleted or only those over x days old? if You set 0 for example and check server tomorrow (from 00:00 next day), all todays and older messages will be removed only. If You set 1, all messages older than 1 day will be removed only. Presumably the deletion is on instruction from TB! at the start of the subsequent visit to the server? If so, where does TB! store this info about the age of messages recently downloaded - I mean, could you prevent the deletion by removing or editing some file within your TB! installation before revisiting the server? -- Best regards, MFPA Yellow snow is not lemon flavoured Using The Bat! v4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 7:20:48 AM, you wrote: If you are taking your own laptop, you could just duplicate your TB! setup from your desktop PC onto your laptop. No need to upgrade to Pro or to try Voyager(-; would that be covered under my license or be considered running a second instance of TB? You may need different settings to send mail from a different location (for example, if the mail server is at your ISP and requires connecting via their network). yeah, that is right but would not be a problem. You would need to integrate the messages you received on your laptop while travelling into the messagebase on your PC after your return. How would I do that without messing everything up? I used webmail in the past and using leaving messages on server downloaded again after return to my normal workstation. However, any emails sent from webmail would not show up or only if using cc to my own account and then have to be shifted around to the correct folders (from inbox to sent) with having the wrong time stamps? -- Tom using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager
Hi On Tuesday 18 November 2008 at 8:45:18 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom wrote: would that be covered under my license or be considered running a second instance of TB? If the travel is short-term you could presumably take advantage of the 30-day evaluation period to see how you get on with TB! on your laptop. The licence says, You are granted a non-exclusive licence to use the program on one computer at a time. Open to interpretation but I would suggest that may cover you if you do not simultaneously power up TB! on both machines. [...] How would I do that without messing everything up? I used webmail in the past and using leaving messages on server downloaded again after return to my normal workstation. However, any emails sent from webmail would not show up or only if using cc to my own account and then have to be shifted around to the correct folders (from inbox to sent) with having the wrong time stamps? One suggestion would be to create a backup from your main TB! installation and restore it to the laptop installation before you go, then after you return create a backup from your laptop and restore to your main PC. -- Best regards, MFPA When you're caffeinated, all is right with the world Using The Bat! v4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
