Re: Installation problem

2009-09-08 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Tuesday 8 September 2009 at 5:56:28 AM, in
, Jeanny
House wrote:


> My friend bought a new computer running Vista. 


Was the old one running a different version of Windows?


> She had someone come over a couple of days ago and do some data
> transfer and program installation for her. He installed her previous
> copy of The Bat!, which was probably a 2.x or 3.x version.


I take it he did an actual install rather than just a copy across of
the program files? Does the new version work, except for not having
your friend's message base and personalised settings, filters,
templates, etc? And presumably says it's a trial period if the licence
key isn't entered? Which version is it? (Help | About)


> He, of course, knew nothing about the program. He forgot to make a
> backup of TB! on her old computer, however. Today, we hooked up her
> old computer to back up TB! so we could restore her saved email and
> settings.


Is the installation on the old box still intact and working, complete 
with settings and stored message base?


> Another friend and TB! user came with me and tried at first just to
> move the files from one computer to the other. 


Had you connected the two computers together? 

Do you mean "copy" rather than "move"?


> It wouldn't let us do that.


What wouldn't let you? Something on the old or the new computer?

Were you signed into the new computer as a user with restricted
rights, or without write permission where you wanted to put the files?
(Don't know Vista's terminology but in XP that would be a "user" as
opposed to an "administrator.")


> I had brought a flash drive with TB! 4.2 on it to
> install on her computer as a trial.  When moving the
> files didn't work, we tried to run the 4.2 installation
> program.  Over and over, we got an error message that
> it couldn't find Drive G.  There is no drive G.  The
> flash drive was on H.  The hard drive is C:.


Did the computer decide it was drive H or did you assign the letter 
yourself? If the computer assigned H then it seems likely G is already 
assigned. Not sure why the installation program would be looking for a 
drive other than where it was, where you told it to put the program 
files, and where you told it to put the mail folder.


> When we tried to uninstall The Bat! that her tech guy had installed,
> we were unable to do so. Something wouldn't let us.


How did you try uninstalling? Add/remove programs?

Did you try rebooting first? Did you try Safe Mode?

And back to the question about being logged on as a user with
restricted rights?
 
Did you try Safe Mode?


> It also called the program it wouldn't delete by some name using a
> non-Roman alphabet.


Nice.


> So, how do I get the old files off her computer and get
> a new version of The Bat! up and running with her old
> data restored?


Make sure to log in as an Administrator (or whatever Vista calls it) 
and try again.

Failing that, try Safe Mode.

Try installing to a location you know you can write to.

Failing that, google for "ICACLS" (sans quotes)...


Remember if a newer version of TB! a new licence will probably need to
be purchased to use for over 30 days.



-- 
Best regards
 
MFPA

Put knot yore trust inn spel chequers

Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600  



Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Installation problem

2009-09-08 Thread Jeanny House
Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 1:51:58 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote:

Jernej> The easiest would be to make a full backup (Tools ->
Jernej> Backup) on her old computer and then do a fresh install of The Bat
Jernej> 4.0.38 (it's available on  
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php)
Jernej> on the new computer, and do a restore when it starts.

I tried to do a fresh install of 4.2.  Should I not use that?  I can't get the 
previous version off her new computer and it won't let me install the new 
version.  Unless I'm missing something, it won't let me do what you're 
suggesting.



-- 
Jeanny House
Eau Claire, WI
The Bat! 4.2.10.1 on Windows Vista , version 6.0, build 6001.Service Pack 1



Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html