IMAP folders - TB keeps on losing messages attributes, marks, flags and colour groups

2012-08-31 Thread Luca

TB keeps on losing messages attributes, marks, flags and colour groups for my
IMAP account. I'm on 5.2 now, but I've been seeing this happening for all the
last year. 

Every now and then, all of a sudden, any unread, parked, coloured, flagged
message turns read, unparked, no colour, no flag. Very nasty. No particular
problem or action seems to be related to this behaviour.

Any idea? Is it possible that it's a server related problem?

Thanx.

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Re: IMAP folders - TB keeps on losing messages attributes, marks, flags and colour groups

2012-08-31 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Luca,

On 31-08-2012 17:48, you wrote in
mid:0om148pe9hljrrj5moeo01rnvkfdilf...@4ax.com:
 Every now and then, all of a sudden, any unread, parked, coloured, flagged
 message turns read, unparked, no colour, no flag. Very nasty. No particular
 problem or action seems to be related to this behaviour.

 Any idea? Is it possible that it's a server related problem?

I have only experienced problems with colour groups but for me, these are often
lost.

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greeting Best regards /greeting  
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 5.1.2 Pro /thebat version extras MyGate, RSS /extras
env. 4 IMAP (Courier)  1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. /env.
os Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 /os



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Re: inline jpeg images received inconsistently depending on receiving mailer

2012-08-31 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Steven,

Monday, August 27, 2012, 6:16:04 AM, you wrote:

SA We researched the question a bit.  Here is what we found.

SA When I pasted the pics (using ctrl-v) into TB! I was doing what 
SA normally would be giving embedded pictures in the email. However when 
SA it was received on the other side (I looked at this in Gmail since it 
SA keeps the header detail) I had (stripped down to the basics) :

 Content-Type: IMAGE/JPEG; name=int_1.jpg
 Content-ID: 4C67E43C.01CD8270.49246F31.44A035FC_csseditor
 Content-transfer-encoding: base64
 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=int_1.jpg

SA Thus gmail (and Eudora) were relating to the picture as an attachment.
SA This says that int_1.jpg is an attachment.

SA If TB! was sending it as an embedded graphics, the receiver would get

SA a content-disposition MIME header like this:

SA   Content-Disposition: inline; filename=file name.jpg

Testing:



SA So do any Bat techies know if TB! can send pics that will be received 
SA as embedded graphics on the other side, rather than attachments ? 
SA (There is a big difference in how some mailers display these pic 
SA possibilities.)

Check out this mail. I am cc'ing your direct email address, in case the picture 
does not make it to the list.

SA Sidenote: I am ignoring the third possibility, url links to a server, 
SA as that is not relevant here, and many receivers will set up security 
SA to block those (curious, what TB! does with those, Eudora gives a 
SA security setting to allow to download, or not, most of us turn it 
SA off, disallow).

I disallow in TB!, not sure what your question is. In fact, you have to 
actively allow it if yo want.

SA If TB! does have a method to allow true embedded graphics, any idea 
SA why it does not take on a standard .jpg ctrl-v ?

I used the insert picture icon in the editor.

SA Any help appreciated.  If you suggest go to TB! tech support, that is 
SA understandable. Plan to do so, as needed.

This (TBUDL) *is* tech support. ;-)

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

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Re: inline jpeg images received inconsistently depending on receiving mailer

2012-08-31 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Steven,

Monday, August 27, 2012, 6:16:04 AM, you wrote:

 Content-Type: IMAGE/JPEG; name=int_1.jpg
 Content-ID: 4C67E43C.01CD8270.49246F31.44A035FC_csseditor
 Content-transfer-encoding: base64
 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=int_1.jpg

SA Thus gmail (and Eudora) were relating to the picture as an attachment.
SA This says that int_1.jpg is an attachment.

I replied to your mail by embedding a picture, but it was too big for
this list (unless a moderator lets it through). I also CC'ed your PM
address, so you should have received it in your Inbox.

SA If TB! was sending it as an embedded graphics, the receiver would get

SA a content-disposition MIME header like this:

SA   Content-Disposition: inline; filename=file name.jpg

In the mail which I BCC'ed to myself, I see the following headers in
the Incoming message:

 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
  boundary=--09D0330A23FDECB7B

 09D0330A23FDECB7B
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
  boundary=--1050641801D5AC6BB


 1050641801D5AC6BB
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In the HTML part, I find this:

 span style=3D color: #800080;nbsp;gt;gt;Content-Type: IMAGE/JPEG; na=
 me=3Dint_1.jpgbr
 nbsp;gt;gt;Content-ID:
 lt;4C67E43C.01CD8270.49246F31.44A035FC_csseditor=
 gt;br
 nbsp;gt;gt;Content-transfer-encoding: base64br
 nbsp;gt;gt;Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=3Dint_1.jpgbr
 br

And at the end, here is the picture:

 09D0330A23FDECB7B
 Content-Type: image/jpeg;
  name=Grandma listen.jpg
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 Content-ID: 7FD40B88.01CD8794.62089E6C.3B478E23_csseditor

 /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAQABAAD//gAEKgD/4gIcSUNDX1BST0ZJTEUAAQEAAAIMbGNtcwIQ
 AABtbnRyUkdCIFhZWiAH3AABABkAAwApADlhY3NwQVBQTAAA
 9tYAAQDTLWxjbXMA
 AApkZXNj/F5jcHJ0AAABXAt3dHB0AAABaBRia3B0
 AAABfBRyWFlaAAABkBRnWFlaAAABpBRiWFlaAAABuBRyVFJDAAABzAAA
 AEBnVFJDAAABzEBiVFJDAAABzEBkZXNjAANjMgAA

So, it's MIME encoded like an attachment, but then, every HTML mail
is, isn't it? Isn't any HTML part technically an attachment?

In truth, I don't know anything, just throwing these header fragements
into the list to see whether this is really wrong behaviour of TB!.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

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