Re[2]: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
2/10/2014 8:54 PM Hi MFPA, On 2/10/2014 MFPA wrote: M> You mean in "Network Administration" you are set as Admin for all M> accounts and your wife is set as User for her account only? No I mean I manage all the accounts on both computers and store the message bases for all accounts on my computer. My wife has a redundant message base on her computer. M> Do you download your wife's mail for her, or is it just stored on your M> computer? Is it stored on her computer as well? She has her own redundant message base managed by her copy of The Bat! running on her computer. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Monday 10 February 2014 at 6:35:16 PM, in , Achdut18 wrote: > So, it sounds like > the only way I can get new accounts created at the > root of the folder tree on one device to appear on > another device is by manually creating the account. I would say yes, unless they are propagated by synchronising. Or by backing up the account properties on one device and restoring that backup onto the other device. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Versifiers write poems for it. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Monday 10 February 2014 at 11:32:14 AM, in , Paul Van Noord wrote: > My computer is the administrator for all email accounts > including my wife's. I have POP3 set up on my computer > for all accounts. My wife has her account set up as > POP3 on her computer. You mean in "Network Administration" you are set as Admin for all accounts and your wife is set as User for her account only? > When we > travel it is only necessary to take my computer because > my wife's messages are also stored on it. Do you download your wife's mail for her, or is it just stored on your computer? Is it stored on her computer as well? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello Paul, Monday, February 10, 2014, 5:32:14 AM, you wrote: [snp] PVN> My computer is the administrator for all email accounts including my PVN> wife's. I have POP3 set up on my computer for all accounts. My wife PVN> has her account set up as POP3 on her computer. If your wife creates an account, using her laptop, would you see it on your laptop? PVN> Both of us have our accounts set as IMAP on our phones and any sent PVN> messages are automatically BCC'd to our accounts to insure that there PVN> is a copy of all sent messages available for archiving in the POP3 PVN> account on the computers. PVN> The phones sync every 10 minutes and the computers download every 10 PVN> minutes. This is very easy to manage with minimal effort. No PVN> networking is needed. When we travel it is only necessary to take my PVN> computer because my wife's messages are also stored on it. I am very interested in your set-up. However, what if you travel and your wife stays at home. How would she read e-mail? How would she get access to her messages? PVN> If further remote management is needed we do it with TeamViewer. The PVN> client used on the phones is My Secure Mail for Android. I may have more Qs about this after looking into it. Thanks for your suggestions. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello MFPA, Monday, February 10, 2014, 7:15:50 AM, you wrote: [snip] >> While >> the desktop MAIL folder also has a few additional >> accounts that I created on the desktop after I set up >> The Bat! on the laptop, and those accounts all have >> folders inside the MAIL folder that I can even see >> while on the laptop, The Bat! e-mail client on the >> laptop does not have those folders. Is there some >> lower level folder on the laptop that also needs to >> point to the MAIL folder in order to automatically >> set up a folder on the laptop any time one is created >> on the desktop? M> Additional folders within an account should appear if you press M> CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+L after selecting the appropriate account in the folder M> tree. Additional accounts would need to be created as a new account on M> the laptop and pointed to the same location as the equivalent account M> on the desktop. I have 19 accounts at the root of the folder tree. All but one are active. So, it sounds like the only way I can get new accounts created at the root of the folder tree on one device to appear on another device is by manually creating the account. M> You could presumably make them appear automatically if you employed a M> method of synchronising the TB! installations. That is exactly what I am trying to do, and some suggestions have been posted. When I have time, I will take a close look at them. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Sunday 9 February 2014 at 6:39:54 AM, in , Achdut18 wrote: > Well, as mentioned above, it's just not possible to > have only one of the laptops use The Bat! exclusively > at any given time. Moreover, we each frequently leave > The Bat! open on both machines so both machines are > running The Bat! simultaneously a lot. Fair enough. I would be wary of potential issues if you both work in the same folders at the same time. > Perhaps. Could I schedule a download every five > minutes? And do no downloading on the laptops at all? Sounds reasonable. > The properties for each of the accounts appearing on > the laptop all point to the desktop MAIL folder > (which is at the root of c: on the desktop). [snipped] > While > the desktop MAIL folder also has a few additional > accounts that I created on the desktop after I set up > The Bat! on the laptop, and those accounts all have > folders inside the MAIL folder that I can even see > while on the laptop, The Bat! e-mail client on the > laptop does not have those folders. Is there some > lower level folder on the laptop that also needs to > point to the MAIL folder in order to automatically > set up a folder on the laptop any time one is created > on the desktop? Additional folders within an account should appear if you press CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+L after selecting the appropriate account in the folder tree. Additional accounts would need to be created as a new account on the laptop and pointed to the same location as the equivalent account on the desktop. You could presumably make them appear automatically if you employed a method of synchronising the TB! installations. > Thanks. That's a good idea. I can't take credit. I saw it on this list a few years ago, I believe from Roelof. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net We're all shipwrecked on this idea that everything has to be explained. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
2/10/2014 6:18 AM Hi Achdut18, On 2/9/2014 Achdut18 wrote: A> Jack, thank you very much! I don't know if this will work, but is A> certainly worth a try. Does this only work if both machines are A> running on the same network, or, do they just need to be able to A> access the Internet? After reading this thread for some time I thought I should jump in with a description of the system we have used for many years: My computer is the administrator for all email accounts including my wife's. I have POP3 set up on my computer for all accounts. My wife has her account set up as POP3 on her computer. Both of us have our accounts set as IMAP on our phones and any sent messages are automatically BCC'd to our accounts to insure that there is a copy of all sent messages available for archiving in the POP3 account on the computers. The phones sync every 10 minutes and the computers download every 10 minutes. This is very easy to manage with minimal effort. No networking is needed. When we travel it is only necessary to take my computer because my wife's messages are also stored on it. If further remote management is needed we do it with TeamViewer. The client used on the phones is My Secure Mail for Android. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html