Moving to a new computer
Hello Mentors, My wife's HP laptop is giving us trouble to the point that I've ordered a new ASUS laptop and are awaiting its arrival. The old HP laptop is running Win 7 and the new ASUS is loaded with Win 8 or 8.1. Not sure which. Assuming I can even figure out how to make Win 8 work, I need to know how to move TB! from the old HP to the new ASUS. I searched TB's mail archive using the string moving to a new computer and the latest entry I found was February of this year posted by Mike Greenbaum. The last answer to Mike's question was the one posted by Thomas Fernandez where Thomas states that backing up TB to a safe place, loading the installer on the new machine and then when run, apparently the installer will ask if you want to restore from backup. So, the questions are these: a) Is this the best way to achieve the move? b) We're both running ver 5.2 and I find that I no longer have the MSI file. The archived versions of TB list TB Home 5.8.8 as the closest to 5.2. Are there any major differences between 5.2 and 5.88? c) Will my wife's key block work on 5.8.8? d) Is 5.8.8 going to run in Win 8. e) What questions haven't I thought of? e) Should I just cut my throat now? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
[In Reply to: »Jack S. LaRosa« · 2014-09-25 · 15:40 h (CET)] Moin, Jack et al.! […] The old HP laptop is running Win 7 and the new ASUS is loaded with Win 8 or 8.1. Not sure which. […] The last answer to Mike's question was the one posted by Thomas Fernandez where Thomas states that backing up TB to a safe place, loading the installer on the new machine and then when run, apparently the installer will ask if you want to restore from backup. So, the questions are these: a) Is this the best way to achieve the move? Yes, I think so, too. b) We're both running ver 5.2 and I find that I no longer have the MSI file. The archived versions of TB list TB Home 5.8.8 as the closest to 5.2. Are there any major differences between 5.2 and 5.88? AFAIK no. c) Will my wife's key block work on 5.8.8? Yes. d) Is 5.8.8 going to run in Win 8. AFAIK yes. e) What questions haven't I thought of? That the second e) must be f). ;-) e) Should I just cut my throat now? Definitely not. ツ Cheers! VA - -- Volker Ahrendt | q...@ahrendt.net | The /\^o^/\! [Pro] 6.6.0.5 Operating System: Windows 7 Professional [Build 7601 – Service Pack 1] Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! »You live and learn. At any rate, you live.« Douglas Adams (* March 11, 1952; † May 11, 2001) Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
9/25/2014 10:41 AM Hi Jack, On 9/25/2014 Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL I need to know how to move TB! from the old HP to the new ASUS. This is how I do it: Copy the Email data folder (with sub-folders) to the new computer. Install TB from MSI and point it to this folder. TB sees this folder and sets up the accounts. I have used this technique for many years. BTW, I recommend moving to version 6. It is worth it. - -- Paul The Bat! v.6.6.0.3 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Volker, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: VA [In Reply to: »Jack S. LaRosa« · 2014-09-25 · 15:40 h (CET)] VA Moin, Jack et al.! […] The old HP laptop is running Win 7 and the new ASUS is loaded with Win 8 or 8.1. Not sure which. […] The last answer to Mike's question was the one posted by Thomas Fernandez where Thomas states that backing up TB to a safe place, loading the installer on the new machine and then when run, apparently the installer will ask if you want to restore from backup. So, the questions are these: a) Is this the best way to achieve the move? VA Yes, I think so, too. b) We're both running ver 5.2 and I find that I no longer have the MSI file. The archived versions of TB list TB Home 5.8.8 as the closest to 5.2. Are there any major differences between 5.2 and 5.88? VA AFAIK no. c) Will my wife's key block work on 5.8.8? VA Yes. d) Is 5.8.8 going to run in Win 8. VA AFAIK yes. e) What questions haven't I thought of? VA That the second e) must be f). ;-) e) Should I just cut my throat now? VA Definitely not. ツ VA Cheers! VA VA Thank you Volker. I wasn't sure where to place the cut my throat question. Wasn't paying enough attention to the letters. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Paul, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: PVN 9/25/2014 10:41 AM PVN Hi Jack, PVN On 9/25/2014 Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL I need to know how to move TB! from the old HP to the new ASUS. PVN This is how I do it: PVN Copy the Email data folder (with sub-folders) to the new computer. PVN Install TB from MSI and point it to this folder. PVN TB sees this folder and sets up the accounts. PVN I have used this technique for many years. BTW, I recommend moving to PVN version 6. It is worth it. Thanks for the reply Paul. Sounds very easy but when you say email data folder, to which specific folder are you referring? What would the Windows Explorer address bar show? -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Jack, On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:42:05 -0500GMT Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL Sounds very easy but when you say email JSL data folder, to which specific folder are you referring? What would JSL the Windows Explorer address bar show? Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You will find the directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place you want. -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! Version 6.6.0.5 (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 We are continually faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems. [John W. Gardner] Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hi On Thursday 25 September 2014 at 4:53:57 PM, in mid:1775113390.20140925175...@gmx.net, Feli Wilcke wrote: Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You will find the directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place you want. There is also a fair chance that typing %email% in the windows explorer address bar and hitting the enter key will find it. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Does anybody really read these things? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello MFPA, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: M Hi M On Thursday 25 September 2014 at 4:53:57 PM, in M mid:1775113390.20140925175...@gmx.net, Feli Wilcke wrote: Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You will find the directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place you want. M There is also a fair chance that typing %email% in the M explorer address bar and hitting the enter key will find it. Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! As Feli suggested, Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! So, two ways of getting the information. Thanks M. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! As Feli suggested, Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! That is it! But you can put it anywhere you want and browse to it in the bat Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Feli, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: FW Hello Jack, FW On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:42:05 -0500GMT Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL Sounds very easy but when you say email JSL data folder, to which specific folder are you referring? What would JSL the Windows Explorer address bar show? FW Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You will find the FW directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place FW you want. Options/Preferences/System here yields: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\ and if you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! So I guess that answers my question. Thank you Feli. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Rick, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\TheBat! As Feli suggested, Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! R That is it! But you can put it anywhere you want and browse to it in the bat Any reason why it shouldn't be put in: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!? It offends my Monkian sensibilities to have files to a specific program spread all over the place. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Any reason why it shouldn't be put in: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!? Yes, it should ~not~ be put there, because user modifiable files are not supposed to be placed in any Program Files subdirectory. (Although this was once entirely possible in some earlier versions of Windows, this is now verboten for security reasons.) -- Fred Using TheBat V.4.2.44.2 for POP3 mail with Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Yes, it should ~not~ be put there, because user modifiable files are not supposed to be placed in any Program Files subdirectory. (Although this was once entirely possible in some earlier versions of Windows, this is now verboten for security reasons.) It COULD go into the programdata folder ... I have mine on another drive but even putting it in My Documents would work. If you have any trouble, check the folder/file permissions. They can get you all messed up in windows 8 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
