Re: Help w/ upgrading
On Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:05:55 PM Richie G wrote: > Many years ago I used TB! (2.12*) and loved it, then [stuff happened] > and I find myself now needing TB! more than ever. When I upgraded from v2 to v6 I just installed v6 over the v2 install. That worked mostly fine, except that I lost all my filters. I think v3 introduced a new filtering system so you should probably upgrade to v3 first and from that to v7. I don't remember any problems with templates. -- Andre Using The Bat! 6.8.8 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit . Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation
Hello Kelvin, Thursday, December 14, 2006, 9:25:25 AM, you wrote: Is there a way to retain the ease and functionality of the Sort by Reference view but yet still retain the Gmail-way? Gmail-way is the manner in which Gmail threads emails (as conversations) and use date and time of the last reply to sort the threads. The thread with the latest reply will rank as the top thread, irregardless of the creation date of the thread starter email. Have you tried new thread sorting (might be not so new anymore in v3) in the properties of your viemode? -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP Home SP2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and spam filters
Hello Marten, Sunday, June 18, 2006, 10:47:30 PM, you wrote: PopFile is the only fully-configurable and adjustable spam filtering system that works properly with TB Don't think this has to do with tb! but it is the only usable spam filter for me. Now if there just weren't these crashes... -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12 on WinXP Home sp2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Storing spam emails for later training
Hello Admin, Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 1:52:31 PM, you wrote: At the moment all i seem to be able to do is save them as single messages as EML or MSG - since I can;t see thatTB will import a txt file (which is theonly way I can seem to get a bunch of email messages sabved in one go. Export to unix mailbox? -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12 on WinXP Home sp2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual folder filtered by hours
Hello rich, Friday, March 10, 2006, 2:16:58 AM, you wrote: I did look at the properties|filters screen but alas, no. There is no AGE option there. :( Select Use Filter, click on Any message, select age. Should be pretty straightforward from there... -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12 on WinXP Home sp2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesian-filtering for spam on all accounts possible?
Hello pr1, Friday, March 10, 2006, 6:13:10 PM, you wrote: I have a dozen email accounts and I've been using Popfile on the main one but I'd like to try something better because it's a resource hog. Funny. I just returned to popfile because all the others I've tried didn't work for me. It also doesn't seem to be as large a ressource hog anymore. On my old desktop it always used 6% cpu, I would've expected it to use at least 1% on my faster laptop but it uses, well, 0%. Anyway, I've found while popfile has it's issues they're more minor than those of the other programs. But best test them yourself, it seems many people don't have issues with k9 for example... -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12 on WinXP Home sp2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-spam system recommendations
Hello Alexander, Monday, December 26, 2005, 11:18:43 PM, you wrote: Hello Andre Wichartz everyone else, on 26-Dez-2005 at 12:53 you (Andre Wichartz) wrote: Two of the really really bad bugs affect tagging of messages found to be spam: One is adding the header to the body area of a message, the workaround beeing to have tb! search the whole message and not just the header area, slowing the filtering process down. I've created a custom header field X-Text-Classification in TB and have the filter in TB look if that very header contains the word spam. This works reliably ever since I started using K9 (I switched to K9 from PopFile, which uses the same X-Text-Classification header). I'm not too familiar with the v3 filtering system but I think that would only catch mails with the header in the right place not in the body. For the second there is no workaround cause to some messages K9 doesn't add the header at all. Odd. I've never had that problem. The only thing I've noticed is that K9 seems to stumble over newer headers like the very lengthy domainkeys - it did not affect my spam filtering however; the messages are just incorrectly displayed in K9's list of recent messages. I have no problems with the gui. But I had two occurences of bug 2 yesterday and one of bug 1 today. So I experience them on two computers with two different OS and after having installed K9 freshly on this laptop and with fresh training. The funny thing is when I look at the source of these messages I can't find anything special about them. -- Cheerio, Andre The Bat! v2.12 on WinXP Home sp2 Plugins: avast! v4.6 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-spam system recommendations
Hello Marten, Saturday, December 24, 2005, 12:33:16 AM, you wrote: Could anyone using multiple POP3 accounts with The Bat, tell me what anti=spam system they use and could you provide a four or five word recommendation? I have two accounts but have settled to only using spam filtering on the other one. This account doesn't get any spam at all. I don't trust blacklists, so it's bayesian filtering for me. I just whish there was any implementation that really works satisfactory. Bayesit - only some versions work at all and after a while they quit to - and tb! with them. Bayesfilter - crashed during training Spampal with bayesian plugin - works for a while then crashes Popfle - Uses too much cpu even when idle and when it doesn't get enough bandwidth during mail check it crashes causing the mailbox to lock Spambayes - crashed during training Spamhilator - doesn't really filter much at all K9 - This would be ideal: Small, light on resources, doesn't crash. Unfortunately it is buggy and to make things worse it seems to be unmaintained. The developer has disappeared (at least that was the case last time I checked). Two of the really really bad bugs affect tagging of messages found to be spam: One is adding the header to the body area of a message, the workaround beeing to have tb! search the whole message and not just the header area, slowing the filtering process down. For the second there is no workaround cause to some messages K9 doesn't add the header at all. So what I'm I using? K9. At least it doesn't crash and it's certainly better than nothing. I just filter on the whole message source and live with those messages it doesn't tag in addition to those it doesn't catch. But can I recommend it? Not really. Not without a but certainly. -- Cheerio, Andre The Bat! v2.12 on WinXP Home sp2 Plugins: avast! v4.6 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Disappering Header info
Hello Munango-Keewati, Friday, October 28, 2005, 5:57:23 AM, you wrote: I just upgraded to 3.60.07 and find that the Header information (From, Subject, Date, etc.) that normally appears above the preview window and at the top of the full-page message reader window is no longer visible. Could it have something to do with this? - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In 3.61.02 the headers are still not displayed in the preview pane under Windows 98 SE. You must upgrade Windows to support Unicode, Alexander Kunz offered this link: Go to http://www.microsoft.com/downloads and search for unicode, select Windows 95 (or 98 or ME) as platform. You'll get a single hit for the search (its an executable, running it is probably enough to install it, though I don't know for sure). - -- Cheerio, Andre The Bat! v2.12 on Win98se Plugins: avast! v4.6 Bayesit! v0.5.11 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Watching threads
Hello list, Is there any way to use the watch feature without having a mail-chat window popping up everytime a new mail in that thread arrives? I know the chat folders are used by both thread-watching and mail-chat but no chat setting seems to have any effect on thread-watching. Why does thread-watching behave like mail-watching at all? These popups are not only annoying but last time I also got numerous AVs and had tb! crashing in the end. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12 on Win98se Plugins: avast! v4.6 Bayesit! v0.5.11 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reprogram the accountpanes tab Unread
Hello qe3ee, Friday, July 8, 2005, 6:11:40 PM, you wrote: I have laborated with various values from the kludges. Example: From: yourname [EMAIL PROTECTED] only filters the threads that i have replied my self - i.e. it only filters threads someoneelse started. I'm not sure what exactly you want. If you want mails you have replied to in that folder try to filter on message (attributes) is replied. How do I mark mails that I want to watch to be replied. You can flag them or assign them a colour group and filter on that together with fast search not replied. That way they disappear from the virtual folder as soon as you reply to them. If I right click the sent mail and choses Watch replies in... nothing happens. Create a chat folder first. Then you can mark mails to be watched in that folder. All replies to that mail should appear there. I've found this not to be completely reliable but try for yourself. How may I use the filtering capacity under the Account - Sorting/Options filters - Replied Messages? These filters become active when you have replied to a message. You could have them moved to a different folder when you have replied to them for example. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10. A Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: opening HTML files error
Hello Darrin, Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 2:01:12 PM, you wrote: I get an error that reads Cannot find specified file when I open up an email that is html and I click on the html attachment to view it in my browser. Even though the error shows up, I still can view the file in my browser just fine. Any ideas on whats going on? The mail comes with pictures? -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10. A Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't send attachment
Hello Dean, Sunday, May 29, 2005, 2:40:25 AM, you wrote: I looked at those settings and mine were the same. When I get back home again, I'm going to check if there is something in administration/maintenance or grouping ?? grasping at straws. I'm using v2 so I don't know how it's in v3 but... Options - Network Administration - Privileges - Disabled actions - Attach files to outgoing messages -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10. A Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Manual filtering problem
Hello Nick, Tuesday, February 22, 2005, 11:26:34 PM, you wrote: Does that mean the discussion group doesn't deal with questions involving earlier versions of TB!? Not at all. There are even some still around who use v2, take me for example. But you are using an old version even in terms of v2. I don't think I ever used 2.00 and as it was the first release it's bound to have bugs that were fixed in the numerous later releases. So yes might be you filters don't work because of a bug, too, who knows. I would definitely advise you to upgrade to v2.12 and not only because of bugs. Filters invoked by hotkeys certainly work here. If that doesn't cure it let us have a look at your filters. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10. A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Archives
Hello capocasa, Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 7:58:16 PM, you wrote: When I go to this address http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/ to search for a subject the search button doesn't work. Seems to defeat the purpose. Am I missing something? Hmm. I've searched via mail-archive earlier today after searching gmane didn't work so well. But mail-archive worked. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows 98 4.10. A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spamming and Ritlabs...
Hello Watcher, Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 11:15:31 PM, you wrote: Strange I never got it, maybe my exim/sa setup caught it :) No, he missed the little check mark you have to make to say don't send me your important spam or misinterpreted it, I didn't get any either but I'm very careful about reading those checks. I think you must subscribe on the ritlabs site. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Suse Linux 9.1 (wine 20041201) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: Too busy Merry Xmas!
Hello MAU, Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 6:16:58 PM, you wrote: So, before I forget. Merry Christmas to all and a wonderful 2005!!! Merry Christmas and Happy new year to you and the rest of the list. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Suse Linux 9.1 (wine 20041201) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Mode Unstable
Hello Paul, Saturday, December 18, 2004, 11:10:45 PM, you wrote: E.g. Created an Inbox Mode and a SentMode, saved and set to apply to particular folders, but whichever was last used applies to all folders. This is a new problem since moving to Version 3. And you have View-Global Viewode set to no viewmode? -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Suse Linux 9.1 (wine 20041201) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: making folder views stick
Hello ken, Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 5:15:36 AM, you wrote: Hello Peter, Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 11:46:45 AM, you wrote: I think the critical point is in the menu View -- Global View Mode. This should be set to No View Mode, then the special folder views will stick. OK, got that. Thanks. But how do I get the global views not to be global?? ;) Not. Errr.. in other words, sometimes I am looking a folder that is normally using my Thread by Ref Global view and I want to view threads by subject *temporarily*. If I invoke threading by subject using Alt+2 (same as View|View Threads By.. Subject) then that affects *all* my folders. Why is that? You change the view mode. This change affects all folders using that view mode or in the case of a global view mode all folders. I guess a better question would be what is the difference between the View|View Threads By... option and the View|Global View... options? The first lets you change the view mode you are currently using by changing the threading model. The second lets you switch to a different global view mode or none at all. How do I quickly change the view/threading of one folder without affecting other folders? In the folder properties choose folder specific settings. The more practial approach would be to just reverse your change to the view mode after you are finished, though. Thanks for you help. I know (or knew...) how to do this Hope that helps. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Suse Linux 9.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB to Evolution transition
Hello Nav, Saturday, December 11, 2004, 4:07:43 PM, you wrote: Is there any direct less-cumbersome way to transfer all mails from TB to Evolution (Linux)? I have too many subdirectories in TB and going to each of them archiving as unix mailbox is too much work. I want maintain TB directory structure too, when I make transition to Evolution. I just plan to test if I can do everything with Evolution, what I am now able to do with TB. You can export all you mail at once by creating a virtual folder containing all your mail, then select all and export them. But there's no way around manually recreating your folder structure. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Suse Linux 9.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB on Linux
Hello Nav, Friday, December 10, 2004, 12:41:33 PM, you wrote: Has anyone tried running TB on Linux using Wine? See sig. Does Ritlabs have any plans to release Linux version of TB. They had plans once. But I think they've given them up long ago. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Suse Linux 9.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 AV Plugin
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:11:23 +0100, Raymund Thomas Tump wrote: Well, it should. K9 has to analyse the mail and I suppose it will store the mail for a time on the hard disk. That that is where Avast can fetch it. But that would harm the mail delivery only if K9 sends the mail from disk, which it can't as long as Avast has it open. It's always a good idea to exclude mailbases from scanning for that reason. Be it tb or k9 or whatever mailbases. But in that case the problem would not be a plugin not working but tb failing to download the mail at all. -- Bye, Andre Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 AV Plugin
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 15:40:22 +0500, Richard H. Stoddard wrote: Greetings: I'm trying out K9 since BayesIt has dropped from an accuracy rate of 97% to less than 33% over the last few months. However, it causes a problem for my AV plugin (Avast), which heretofore would flag viruses and automatically move them to the quarantine folder. Now when when one comes in, Avast catches it, but I have to deal with it through the Avast interface instead. Granted, Avast still catches them, but it was a lot cleaner when the plugin just moved them automatically to the quarantine folder. Is there any way to configure either K9, TB!, or Avast to restore that functionality? That's strange. The plugin works on messages as they come in from the mailserver. Whether that mailserver is your actual mailserver or k9 shouldn't make a difference at all. You mean the plugin catches it? And what then? Is there some error message? Have you tried removing and readding the plugin in tb? -- Bye, Andre Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 AV Plugin
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:58:14 +0100, Peter Meyns wrote: I cannot find a setting anywhere to move all infected mails to quarantine (or delete) automatically either. I have only v2 here but this is not plugin specific. I can set the option even without an installed plugin. See PreferencesProtectionAnti VirusWhen a virus is detectedPerform this action and set it to quarantine the mail. I wouldn't think this is removed in v3. -- Bye, Andre Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC-cillin and TB!
Hello Alexander, Saturday, November 6, 2004, 5:33:57 PM, you wrote: My mistake, somewhere in between the mails I started mixing things up. I did not mean TB's messagebase, but a unix messagebase (plain text format), or a .eml | .msg attachment (when exported). Those are usually covered with the archive support of virus scanners (at least mine does it that way, I can switch off the checking of mail archives however, for it is a lengthy process to decode all attachments). My virus scanner also checks TB's messagebase format (I'm using GData AVK, it contains the KAV and the BitDefender engine) and does find messages with malicious attachments that way - I don't know if thats a special feature of GData's AVK or if this is part of either the KAV or BD engine. It means that it checks plain text files. Because that's what *.tbb files are - at least in v2. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Suse Linux 9.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC-cillin and TB!
Hello Marek, Sunday, November 7, 2004, 4:12:33 PM, you wrote: TB never stored msgbases in plain text format like Netscape (Unix mailbox). There were two formats of msgbases, first was used until 1.41 version, actually used format was introduced in 1.42 version and is the same until 3.x. All I know is that I can easily open and read them with a texteditor like vi or xedit. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Suse Linux 9.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fedora and TB!
Hello Chris, Friday, October 22, 2004, 1:54:22 AM, you wrote: You may have to jump through some hoops to get The Bat! to install until COO or WINE supports MSI installers. As Kara is still using v2 that shouldn't be a problem. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Suse Linux 9.1 ACHTUNG!!! Das machine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und corkenpoppen mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in das pockets. Relaxen und vatch das blinkenlights!! Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fedora and TB!
Hello Kara, Friday, October 22, 2004, 1:30:01 AM, you wrote: G'day I've just started using the Linux distro Fedora Core 1. Can TB! be used as Fedora's e-mail client or is use of TB! limited only to those using a Windows O/S? There is no linux version of the bat! But there's a way. There's a windows emulator called wine. Fedora probably comes with it. Otherwise you can download the current version from www.winehq.org In a console cd to your bat directory and try wine thebat.exe There are some issues, so don't expect it to work as well as under windows but all in all it works fairly well. -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Suse Linux 9.1 ...you might as well skip the Xmas celebration completely, and instead sit in front of your linux computer playing with the all-new-and-improved linux kernel version. (By Linus Torvalds) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: BayesIt web english web page
Hello MikeD, Sunday, September 26, 2004, 8:08:39 PM, you wrote: SMK I'm, using 06.6, which I thought was the latest version. BayesIt hasn't SMK worked well for me since the version that came with The Bat 2.12; I don't SMK remember its version number. That would 0.5.11. It is what I continue to return to when I have problems with a new version of the 0.6 tree. Last time I looked, it was still available. 2.12 comes with 0.55. I know that because I recently installed that version and am still using the Bayesit version that comes with it. -- Best regards, Andre Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bayesit063.rar bayesit064.rar bayesit065.rar ?
Hello admin, On 21 Sep 2004 at 22:18:24 +0100 GMT [23:18 CEST] you wrote: aacu OK - could you please, please find a moment to tell me which of the aacu many BayesIt and bayesit directories scattered around that I now seem aacu to have, I actually need? Only two: - the folder where you extracted the installation files (from the rar archive) to - the working directory as set in the plugins options aacu Or - would it be a good idea to find them all, delete them all then aacu re-install TBv3 - will that place the BayesIt folder(s) where it wants aacu them? aacu Every time I try and create a white-list rule, it tells me - the file aacu cannot be found despite me setting it in the 'Options'. That's a bug that was fixed. As workaround try to create a file whitelist.txt in your working directory. aacu This is getting as complex as installing Linux - don't go there... Been there. Done that. Grabbed the free t-shirt. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Alles schöne im Leben ist entweder ungesund, unmoralisch oder es macht dick. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting only selected text
Hello Dan, On 9 Sep 2004 at 10:00:57 -0400 GMT [16:00 CEST] you wrote: Right click on the preview pane: Message Reply to All quoting selected text. (In v2.12) DG Doesn't work on my system. Are you using 2.12.00? What doesn't work? Try it: Look at a message in the preview pane not in it's own window. Mark some text. Right click in the message body and choose Message-Reply to all quoting selected text Works well here. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 We are, each of us angels with only one wing; and we can only fly by embracing one another. ~ Luciano De Crescenzo Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Kaspersky AntiVirus Plug-in with The Bat! v3.0?
Hello Mary, On 9 Sep 2004 at 06:45:07 -0500 GMT [13:45 CEST] you wrote: MB Later, gator, perhaps? I'm using Sygate (free) right now. Just began MB with that last week. So far, so good. Only thing is that a splash MB Register now? screen comes up every time at boot. Otherwise, it's MB faithful, helpful, and unobtrusive. The solution is simple: Register. They don't want you to buy a pro version. You just need to register the free version. You can even do it as I did: Fill random combination of letters in the fields instead of your true data. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Die Toleranz ist nicht grenzenlos. Sie findet ihre Grenze, vielleicht ihre einzige Grenze, in der etwaigen Intoleranz des anderen. ~ Helmut Schmidt Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Junk controls don't seem to be working
Hello Joe, On 9 Sep 2004 at 15:05:50 -0400 GMT [21:05 CEST] you wrote: J I am having a problem using the junk controls. I have the bayeslt J plugin installed. If I set the threshold to 99 all e-mail comes in OK J as NOT junk. If I set it to 98 most all e-mail comes in as junk J except the ones I has set in the white list. Also, even if I J manually set the email to NOT Junk it still is considered junk J unless I set the threshold to 99. What am I doing wrong. 99 is the highest score bayesit gives to spam. Have you trained it with spam and non-spam mail? -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Wir würden vor dem Glühwürmchen ebenso ehrfürchtig stehen wie vor der Sonne, wenn wir nicht an unsere Vorstellungen von Gewicht und Maß so gebunden wären. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT and BayesFilter
Hello Paul, On 7 Sep 2004 at 23:23:19 +0100 GMT [00:23 CEST] you wrote: PJ So I have to retrain each time I upgrade the BayesIT plugin. That PJ seems rather painful. No. Only when upgrading from v0.4 or older. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 I drank what? ~ Socrates Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)
Hello MAU, On 4 Sep 2004 at 16:52:30 +0200 GMT [16:52 CEST] you wrote: M Traditionally on the net, asterisks mean *bold*, underscores mean M _underlined_, slashes mean /italics/, etc. I know. :) And my text is either naked or underlined. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Beato chi può dire a se stesso: io ho asciugato una lacrima. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello MAU, On 3 Sep 2004 at 23:40:24 +0200 GMT [23:40 CEST] you wrote: M I think I've read somewhere, maybe in TBBeta, that the light will be M discontinued. But don't take my word for it. Do you have any idea what I thought when I read this? I was like I don't want light to be discontinued. It's so dark without light! -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. ~ George Orwell Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MORE version questions
Hello rich, On 3 Sep 2004 at 13:17:44 -0400 GMT [19:17 CEST] you wrote: rg Anyone have comments on the 2.x versions at my (free) disposal? rg 2.04.7 - the version I am (still) on rg 2.11.02 - a version still available on the site for download rg 2.12 - a version still available on the site for download If I remember correctly the main thing you would gain are smilies/rogues and virtual folders. But better download, look at the changelog and try for yourself. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)
Hello Mary, On 3 Sep 2004 at 10:57:06 -0500 GMT [17:57 CEST] you wrote: MB :grin: Okay. 4 * * 1 MB But, Andre, I use *asterisks* to indicate emphasis, I don't. And for exactly for that reason. If I need to show emphasis which is seldom enough i use underscores. I realize I'm not coming from where almost everyone else on these lists is coming from. looks alien to me. Even though I see them here quite often I'm still not used to it. I'm used to use * * in those cases. You will find me write *g* occasingly but never g I'm not sure why that is. I have a theory about mirc using asterics for actions but I don't know. It's in irc where I learned these things. If someday tb supports these symbols for bold, underlined etc text so be it. I will grin boldly then. I was teasing you when I refused to subscribe to one of your two options, true enough. But there was still my honest opinion in there as well. MB so that I don't shout with capitals. But you should shout with capitals. That's what they're there for. Of course, better not to shout at all. MB (Because one of the few lacks in the MicroEd and its accompanying MB View configurations, is a way to show bold or italic fonts for this MB kind of emphasis.) tb! doesn't offer this at all for non html mail. MB Anyway, it's really nice to hear from you. Nice of you to say that. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Fliegen ist gar nicht so schwierig, wie man denkt. Man muß sich nur auf den Boden schmeißen und vergessen aufzuschlagen. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! v3 (Was: Re: v3.0 b1)
Hello John, On 3 Sep 2004 at 02:30:05 +1000 GMT [18:30 CEST] you wrote: JP As a matter of interest, does anyone know if RTitlabs read this list at all? At least some of them do. I remeber Stef and 9Val posting here in the past. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. ~ George Orwell Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LAtest BayesIT Announcements
Hello Michael, On 3 Sep 2004 at 09:46:30 -0700 GMT [18:46 CEST] you wrote: MLW Is there an announcement for BayesIT? If not, how do I know when a MLW new version is released? From time to time try the download url with increased version number. Then see if you get a download or 404. From time to time Alexey makes an anouncement on tbbeta as well. BUt not for every version. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)
Hello Mary, On 3 Sep 2004 at 08:28:38 -0500 GMT [15:28 CEST] you wrote: MB Therefore, if it's okay, let's have a poll: MB 1) For Smiley handles enclosed in colons : : MB 2) For Smiley handles enclosed in brackets I vote for * * :p -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Das echte Gespräch bedeutet: Aus dem Ich heraustreten und an die Tür des Du klopfen Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Will BayesIt 0.6.0 work with TheBat! 2.12.00?
Hello Dan, On 2 Sep 2004 at 18:35:40 -0400 GMT [00:35 CEST] you wrote: DG BayesIt's history.txt says: DG Version 0.6.0 - this version is written to be included in DG The Bat! 3.0 distribution DG Is anyone successfully using BayesIt 0.6.0 with TheBat! 2.12.00? Yes. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Who the hell wants to hear actors talk? ~ Harry Warner of Warner Brothers, 1925 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt download?
Hello Eddie, On 1 Sep 2004 at 16:32:22 +0200 GMT [16:32 CEST] you wrote: EC I need to download v0.5.9 and don't know the exact link. Can someone EC post it please? Thanks ... I don't know what's wrong with the newer ones but 0.59 you can get here: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit059.rar You just need to change the version number to get any version there. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Si quelqu'un aime une fleure qui n'existe qu'à un exemplaire dans les millions d'étoiles, ça suffit pour qu'il soit heureux quand il les regarde. Il se dit: 'Ma fleur est là quelque part...' Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and XP new SP2...
Hello Bob, On 26 Aug 2004 at 13:14:29 +1000 GMT [05:14 CEST] you wrote: BM I don't use XP but if you want to avoid a very large download you can BM order the update on CD for free from Microsoft at this address: BM BM http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx I ordered my cd on Thursaday and today it arrived even though they said it could take 28 days. The cd includes the 260mb version of sp2 and some 200mb which seem to be mostly debugging tools not needed by the normal user. And of course a bit of documentation about sp2. The installation went flawlessly. No problems so far. A pleasant surprise is that avast shows up in the security centre. Took me a few moments to disable the monitoring of the firewall and disable warnings about automatic updates. -- Cheers, Andre If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
Hello Jan, On 26 Aug 2004 at 19:18:06 -0400 GMT [01:18 CEST] you wrote: JR Anyone have any ideas beyond the notion that the macros don't JR work. Or put it another way, has anyone found that the macros do JR work represent some real numbers? My junk folder shows 57 mails from the last 24 hours. Spam Stats, last day (BayesIt! 0.5.10) Total Spam: 67 Total Ham: 110 Error Spam: 0 Error Ham: 0 Accuracy: 100% My email is 37.853107% spam There is a difference of 10 mails but I get lots of dupes in my junk folder because of the duplicate mails on the server bug and I don't know how those count in the statistic. The macros give me the same information as under preferences. -- Cheers, Andre Fliegen ist gar nicht so schwierig, wie man denkt. Man muß sich nur auf den Boden schmeißen und vergessen aufzuschlagen. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT scoring
Hello Michael, On 24 Aug 2004 at 21:48:35 -0700 GMT [06:48 CEST] you wrote: MLW How can I tell the score of individual messages using BayesIT 5.11? I MLW have looked in BayesIT.log and cannot figure it out. Any assistance MLW would be appreciated. Graham: 1 Spam-grade: 1 That's the spam probability (don't ask me for the difference of the two) Value for The Bat!: 99 That's the score that's given two tb! for which you can tell tb what to do in the options. -- Cheers, Andre I told you I was sick. ~ From a tombstone in the U.K. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT scoring
Hello Jan, On 24 Aug 2004 at 08:14:15 -0400 GMT [14:14 CEST] you wrote: JR Are you saying that the black/white list rules are basically +/- 99 No, I wasn't speaking about blacklists at all. I think whitlisted mails get a score of 0, blacklisted of 100 and the rest is 1..99. -- Cheers, Andre Ein Leben bleibt ein Leben, ob man es nun lachend oder weinend verbringt. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
Hello Michael, On 24 Aug 2004 at 20:47:10 -0700 GMT [05:47 CEST] you wrote: MLW My current macro set is MLW = MLW Spam Stats, last 24 hours (%BAYESITVERSION) MLW Total Spam Emails: %STATSPAMLETTERS(24) MLW Total Clean Emails: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24) MLW BayesIT guessed right %- MLW %calculate=100-(%STATSPAMERLETTERS(24)/%STATSPAMLETTERS(24))%% of the time You forgot to multiply by 100. Also, you are only looking at spam. But bayesit is guessing for all mails not just spam. %calculate=100-(100*((%STATSPAMERLETTERS(24)+%STATNONSPAMERLETTERS(24))/(%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)+%STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24%% MLW My email is %- MLW %Calc(100*%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)/(%STATSPAMLETTERS(24)+%STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24)))%% spam MLW = -- Cheers, Andre I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the top. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
Hello Jan, On 24 Aug 2004 at 16:01:13 -0400 GMT [22:01 CEST] you wrote: JR Yes, of course you are right about your second poing but, just to JR be stubborn for one more moment, If BayesIT filters see msgs JR before TB! filters then this would not be necessary, right? And I JR can't get a definite answer to this question yet. The plugins come before the filters. -- Cheers, Andre I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt download?
Hello Peter, On 24 Aug 2004 at 16:58:43 -0400 GMT [22:58 CEST] you wrote: PK Where can I find the latest version of BayesIt for download? PK The site given in Plugin-BayesIt is a Russian language page of Ritlab. PK TIA http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit0511.rar -- Cheers, Andre The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayeIT Macros
Hello Zonnet, On 24 Aug 2004 at 21:52:57 +0200 GMT [21:52 CEST] you wrote: Z ,- [ ] Z | Spam Letters:%STATSPAMLETTERS(48) Z | Spam traffic: %STATSPAMTRAFFIC(48) Z | Stat no spam leters: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(48) Z | Stat no spam Trafic: %STATNONSPAMTRAFFIC(48) Z | Stat spam letters: %STATSPAMERLETTERS(48) Z | Stat spam Traffic: %STATSPAMERTRAFFIC(48) Z | Stat no spam letters: %STATNONSPAMERLETTERS(48) Z | Stat no spam traffic: %STATNONSPAMERTRAFFIC(48) Z `- Z Do you know the difference between all these? I have not figured it out Z and if you use the wrong one you could get strange results. Z That is what I meant. Z At the moment non of these functions seem to work on this account? Z They all come up zero. They do what the names say. ER stands for error. -- Cheers, Andre Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with BayesIt tuning
Hello DZ-Jay, On 14 Aug 2004 at 14:42:17 -0400 GMT [20:42 CEST] you wrote: DJ That makes sense. But do you know how the weight is DJ calculated? I can assume it is the product of its initial DJ probability by the regarding threshold value, is that true? I don't program the thing. For specific questions you really should ask Alexey. DJ And is it only for tokens that have the same occurrence in spam and DJ non-spam messages, or is the weight skewed by this threshold on all DJ tokens to give them an extra non-spamy umph in order to avoid DJ false positives? I just made an example. It would of course work regardless how often a word occurs. -- Cheers, Andre Geh nicht nur die glatten Strassen: geh Wege, die vor Dir noch niemand ging, damit Du Spuren hinterlässt,und nicht nur Staub. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with BayesIt tuning
Hello MikeD, On 14 Aug 2004 at 14:47:24 -0500 GMT [21:47 CEST] you wrote: M I have been following this thread since I have been having some M problems too. I was using the old version (0.4gm) until I upgraded to M the current version of TB. M The settings I used to use don't seem to work any more and I either M get everything filtered as junk or nothing is filtered as junk. I M trained it with about 2000 spam and 2000 ham messages and still no M joy. I have tried low threshold numbers and high with out much M difference. Have you deleted you spam and non-spam dictionary files when you upgraded? -- Cheers, Andre I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with BayesIt tuning
Hello DZ-Jay, On 14 Aug 2004 at 09:28:34 -0400 GMT [15:28 CEST] you wrote: DJ BTW, I do not understand very well the regarding threshold DJ parameter, can someone explain it please? From advanced.ini: ; this number shows, how much heavier non-spam tokens than spam. It makes some kind of guard and keeps from false positives. Usual value is 2, but you can also try others... -- Cheers, Andre Charlie was a Chemist, but Charlie is no more. What Charlie thought was H20 was H2SO4. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with BayesIt tuning
Hello DZ-Jay, On 14 Aug 2004 at 11:30:32 -0400 GMT [17:30 CEST] you wrote: DJ Yes, I am aware of its definition, but what I don't understand DJ is what would be the effect of changing it to, say, 1.2 from 1.5 DJ (apart from the academic answer of making non-spam tokens a bit less DJ heavier). How does the plugin use this value? Assume a word orccurs equally often in spam and non-spam mails. If you set the value to 1 the word will get a spam propability of 0.5. If you set it to a higher value the word will get something lower than 0.5. Words in non-spam mails just count more and you can set just how much more. At least that's my take on it. -- Cheers, Andre 1. If it's green or it wiggles, it's biology. 2. If it stinks, it's chemistry. 3. If it doesn't work, it's physics. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailserver
Hello Gunivortus, On 7 Aug 2004 at 10:31:19 +0200 GMT [10:31 CEST] you wrote: GG Hi, GG wanna start with some experiments, using TB (2.13.b3) as GG mailserver, but forgot if I installed it as Server. GG Where can I check that? Options-NetworkAdministration-This machine is.. -- Cheers, Andre Wir würden vor dem Glühwürmchen ebenso ehrfürchtig stehen wie vor der Sonne, wenn wir nicht an unsere Vorstellungen von Gewicht und Maß so gebunden wären. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT not working
Hello omn, On 4 Aug 2004 at 10:23:44 +0800 GMT [04:23 CEST] you wrote: o Spam frequency dictionary: o Error loading file. May be it is corrupted or lost. Looks like you have a problem with your spam dictionary. Check working directory\base\spamdict.bye -- Cheers, Andre The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Junk messages as unread?
Hello Robert, On 3 Aug 2004 at 13:49:42 +0300 GMT [12:49 CEST] you wrote: RG Is it possible to have all messages classified by BeyesIt! as junk RG be marked as unread when they get to the Junk folder? Just to make RG sure I do not overlook the legitimate mail. Preferences-Antispam-untick Mark stored junk mail read -- Cheers, Andre It's the heart afraid of breaking that never learns to dance. It is the dream afraid of waking that never takes the chance. It is the one who won't be taken who cannot seem to give. And the soul afraid of dying that never learns to live. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Hello Terry, On 3 Aug 2004 at 14:05:45 -0700 GMT [23:05 CEST] you wrote: Therefore, everything below it is quoted upon Reply, when Macros for quoting are in a person's template. TGM What am I missing? I use macros for quoting but nothing below TGM Michael's cutline is quoted. ~shrug~ Since some versions tb! supports pgp changed sig delimiters. Therefore it works. -- Cheers, Andre Who the hell wants to hear actors talk? ~ Harry Warner of Warner Brothers, 1925 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT Macros
Hello Morgan, On 2 Aug 2004 at 21:08:55 +0100 GMT [22:08 CEST] you wrote: According to the BayesIT help, the following macros are included in the latest version: %STATSPAMLETTERS(hours) %STATSPAMTRAFFIC(hours) %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(hours) %STATNONSPAMTRAFFIC(hours) %STATSPAMERLETTERS(hours) %STATSPAMERTRAFFIC(hours) %STATNONSPAMERLETTERS(hours) %STATNONSPAMERTRAFFIC(hours) They return numbers. What do the numbers mean? MP I have often wondered this as well. I've never tested it but I take it does what the names say. That is number of spam/non-spam mails/traffic that were correctly/falsely classified in the last x hours. -- Cheers, Andre Geh nicht nur die glatten Strassen: geh Wege, die vor Dir noch niemand ging, damit Du Spuren hinterlässt,und nicht nur Staub. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Mary, On 31 Jul 2004 at 06:19:09 -0500 GMT [13:19 CEST] you wrote: Brrr. In the middle of night. MB One thing that continually jars me from that set--and I haven't MB customized it out of my own, because I want to see what other people MB are typing to me as images--is the handle happy. It is my opinion that the default collection should only include the most basic of smilies and only for ascii smilies, not for words. I'm thinking about :)=happy, :(=sad etc And none of the violent ones please. Though I've never seen words like 'happy' beeing replaced. I just did a test and tb! doesn't act on happy (happy) and :happy: (:happy:) neither. I haven't changed anything in the msl file. -- Cheers, Andre Of course I'm sane. The voices said so. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Mary, On 31 Jul 2004 at 08:45:04 -0500 GMT [15:45 CEST] you wrote: MB What version of The Bat! are you using, Andre? Same as you as my headers show. ,- [ ] | Smiley = .\Default\smile.gif, 0, :) :-), smile | Smiley = .\Default\sad.gif, 0, :( :-(, sad | Smiley = .\Default\tungue.gif, 0, :P :-P, tungue | Smiley = .\Default\sideways.gif, 0, =], sideways | Smiley = .\Default\pouty.gif, 0, :| :-|, pouty | Smiley = .\Default\teeth.gif, 0, :B :-B, teethy `- Look how there are more than one handles inside one pair of quotionmarks. could it be that only those are used and the last one is something else? happy Do you see a smilie for the line above or the plain word? -- Cheers, Andre I drank what? Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Mary, On 31 Jul 2004 at 09:57:51 -0500 GMT [16:57 CEST] you wrote: MB What version of The Bat! are you using, Andre? AW Same as you as my headers show. MB I went to Specials/View Source (F9), and I could not see the mailer in MB the list. It's there though. You don't need to look in the source. Tick View-Message Header-Mailer. You will see it in the header pane then whenever someone includes that header. MB I did that before asking you. Have you considered including MB the macro for showing that in your tbudl sig? Someone might complain I'm wasting bandwith :p MB Do you have this line in your .msl: MB Smiley = .\Default\happy.gif, 0, happy, happy Smiley = .\Default\happy.gif, 0, ^^, happy MB Or this one: MB Smiley = .\Default\headshot.gif, 0, headshot! headshot headshot HEADSHOT!, headshot Smiley = .\Default\headshot.gif, 0, headshot! headshot HEADSHOT HEADSHOT!, headshot MB Or this one: MB Smiley = .\Default\knifed.gif, 0, :knifed:, knifed Smiley = .\Default\knifed.gif, 0, :knifed:, knifed MB The :knifed: handle will call that ugly image. Yes, but knifed won't. MB But headshot! headshot headshot HEADSHOT! MB will all call the headshot image. Yes. They're all between the one pair of quotationmarks. AW happy AW Do you see a smilie for the line above or the plain word? MB I see a smiley. MB That's because this line is in my .msl file: MB Smiley = .\Default\happy.gif, 0, happy, happy The one before the last one should not be happy but ^^. MB So when someone types happy with no punctuation up against it, I see a MB smiley. MB And the .msl line that calls it is in the file that I downloaded with MB The Bat! v. 2.12.00. I don't understand that. I must have downloaded a different 2.12.00 :/ MB What a puzzle! :) Yeah! -- Cheers, Andre I am so clever, sometimes I don't understand a word of what I'm saying. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop
Hello Allie, On 27 Jul 2004 at 08:41:18 -0500 GMT [15:41 CEST] you wrote: AM St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote: TB does not react to Windows Show Desktop try Windows- button + M and see for yourself. AM TB! disappears/minimizes here. It depends on wether you have tb! set to show in the task bar. -- Cheers, Andre If it's raining, a cute thing to tell a child is 'God is crying.' If they ask why, another cute thing to say is, 'Probably something you did.' Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt - how can I find out what a message scored?
Hello Tim, On 23 Jul 2004 at 15:09:56 -0400 GMT [21:09 CEST] you wrote: TM Is there any way to find out what any given message scored when TM BayseIt checked it? working directory\bayesit.log -- Cheers, Andre Träume nicht dein Leben, sondern lebe deinen Traum! Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Having trouble setting up acount
Hello Jack, On 21 Jul 2004 at 13:46:04 -0400 GMT [19:46 CEST] you wrote: J I J don't want my personal information showing up in the header of the J mails I send out. If you just want to change the from address you can do that with the %from macro. -- Cheers, Andre If everything seems under control, then you're just not going fast enough! Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New spammer technique?
Hello Code, On 13 Jul 2004 at 11:44:25 -0700 GMT [20:44 CEST] you wrote: C2 I've noticed spam, now, often contains several rows of meaningless, C2 random words, like: C2 annul cripple jacobean hater metric deal prophesy diversify final C2 I assume this is an attempt to foil Bayesian spam filters like C2 BayesIt. Yes. It doesn't work though. C2 If Bayesian filters look for certain recurring words C2 identified as common junk mail words to measure spamminess, it looks C2 like including an abundance of non-junk mail words will allow this C2 spammer technique to bypass the filter. No. Spammers don't know how you legitimate mail looks like. The words they include probably never occured in your legitimate mail or at least where no markers for it. They will most likely have neutral spam probabilities. But there will still be words which mark the mail as spam. Bayesit can use that to recognize it. Even if by chance they include a word that has a very low spam properbility it will most likely not be enough for the spam to come through as legitimate mail. Those words may even become markers for spam because they appear only in those spams but not in your legitimate mails. C2 Any training suggestions for BayesIt? If bayesit misses a spam tell it. Over here it recognizes those mails just fine. -- Cheers, Andre :andre: I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time to Upgrade (Was: One caveat about Folder View Settings in v. 2.11.02 [was Re: Time to Upgrade?])
Hello Douglas, On 13 Jul 2004 at 12:18:35 -0500 GMT [19:18 CEST] you wrote: DH The question is, how are the virtual folders implemented? It sounds DH like messages from several accounts can be viewed in the same DH window, al la Calypso (which has an account column). They are folders that contain links to messages. The messages aren't really in there but you can manipulate them as if they were. DH The question is, how are the messages to be included selected? Two ways. Using the search tool you can save a search as a vf. Or you can create vf and then define a filter for it. DH In DH spite of what some TB! users (including a moderator friend) declare, DH there is no way to filter them accurately, IMO. I'd have to do it DH message by message, because: 1).- I have no way of anticipating the DH content or nature of some of the mail I am sent and therefore; 2).- DH My decisions are made on the fly, depending on what I find. DH Since I depend heavily on the Message Dispatcher, I'd prefer to DH select any mail I want put in the virtual window from there (just as DH I'd like to be able to flag and / or color mail from within the DH Message Dispatcher). You can create virtual folders that look for flagged messages or parked ones or those that belong to a certain colour group. The moment you mark them they will appear in the vf. The only thing I use virtual folders for is mails I want to reply to. I just flag them when I think I want to do that. -- Cheers, Andre :andre: The government of the people, by the people, for the people. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt
Hello Code, On 11 Jul 2004 at 10:28:06 -0700 GMT [19:28 CEST] you wrote: C2 1. Is ongoing training necessary only when BayesIt misses spam or C2 mis-identifies non-spam, or is something more required? You only need to correct mistakes. C2 2. Is there a point where training BayesIt doesn't noticeably improve C2 accuracy, and in fact slows down processing because of of the size of C2 its dictionaries? If so, where is that point? C2 3. You guys describe your own accuracy stats in terms of 99.8% for C2 last month, 99.94% for last week and such. Where are you getting C2 these stats? Preferences-Plugins-Information -- Cheers, Andre :andre: Our problems are man-made, therefore they may be solved by man. And man can be as big as he wants. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More identities
Hello Shai, On 10 Jul 2004 at 16:15:05 +0200 GMT [16:15 CEST] you wrote: S Hello TBUDL, I wanted to know if you can help me find out S how to add more identities to the dropdown list in the From: field. S I use a different email for each mailing list that I'm on and I need S to change the From: email address for each mailing list I send an S email to.-- Best regards, Shai S mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The dropdown list contains the addresses of your accounts. You'd need to add accounts to get more addresses there. But there's a better way: Create addressbook entries for your mailinglists and there in the templates use %from=name address -- Cheers, Andre :andre: Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes
Hello Britt, On 6 Jul 2004 at 14:53:58 +0200 GMT [14:53 CEST] you wrote: BH I've tried to use different view modes for different folders, without BH success. In Options - Preferences - View Mode I have ticked the BH folders I want to apply a certain mode to (in Use by), AND I have BH marked it in each folder under Folder - Folder View Mode, but every BH time ALL my folders change their view mode. Thus I can only have one BH view mode for all folders. This can't be right, so what am I doing BH wrong? Set View-Global View Mode to No Viewmode -- Cheers, Andre :andre: Bleib Menschen fern, die deine Ambitionen belächeln. Kleine Menschen tun das immer, aber die wirklich Großen geben dir das Gefühl, dass auch du groß werden kannst. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Rogue
Hello Paul, On 5 Jul 2004 at 06:46:09 -0400 GMT [12:46 CEST] you wrote: PC this is still a beta item, Leif's stuff, yes. PC not in the production product, Here you are wrong. Smilies etc are supported in 2.11. PC so I haven't PC changed my sig in tbudl. In TBOT I do :) if you want to discuss smileys, PC do it in tbot or tbbeta, ok ? Why? I use it. And I don't use a beta version. -- Cheers, Andre :andre: Es gibt zwei Tragödien im Leben: Die eine, daß Dir Dein Herzenswunsch nicht erfüllt wird, die andere, daß er es wird. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: poor Unicode support (was: problems copying Russian text from email-body)
Hello Cyrille, On 3 Jul 2004 at 12:18:22 +0200 GMT [12:18 CEST] you wrote: C I asked some time ago on this list, whether somebody knows what are C Ritlab's plans for unicode/utf-8, but nobody seems to know... Ritlabs said it is planned. That's all we know. -- Cheers, Andre Let me assure you that to us here at First National, you're not just a number. You're two numbers, a dash, three more numbers, another dash and another number. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: poor Unicode support
Hello Roland, On 3 Jul 2004 at 18:22:30 +0200 GMT [18:22 CEST] you wrote: RB Ritlabs said this a very lon time ago and Ritlabs also had said RB that in version 2 it is included, but it wasn't!!! The last time Stefan said it was 20 February. But right now imap seems to have priority. -- Cheers, Andre Geh nicht nur die glatten Strassen: geh Wege, die vor Dir noch niemand ging, damit Du Spuren hinterlässt,und nicht nur Staub. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible Help for Extreme CPU Usage and Slowness
Hello Mike, On 23 Jun 2004 at 15:27:59 -0700 GMT [00:27 CEST] you wrote: account.cfg is the place where your account data are stored: address, servers, templates, etc If it's absent then you wouldn't have an address, couldn't check your mail, etc. Then again, it shouldn't be 47 MB, since mine is about 20 kB. So somehow yours had gotten corrupted. MD That obviously can't be the case. My installation of The Bat! is MD working fine. Something had to change, probably undocumented. The Bat! MD never re-created an ACCOUNT.CFG file and works just fine. I renamed an account.cfg and started tb! The templates and server data etc for this account were gone. If your tb! works without that file you have a very strange one ;) -- Cheers, Andre First law of Bicycling: No matter which way you ride, it's always uphill and against the wind. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Hello Wayne, On 21 Jun 2004 at 21:03:10 -0600 GMT [05:03 CEST] you wrote: WK Will AVG work without the plugin? I only use pop3 and am happy WK to have infected messages/attachments just deleted. What's so terrible wrong with doing exactly that with a plugin? -- Cheers, Andre Ein Kuß ist Mund-zu-Mund-Beatmung ohne medizinischen Anlaß. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt
Hello Richard, On 19 Jun 2004 at 05:33:38 +0500 GMT [02:33 CEST] you wrote: RHS I'm using BayesIT, and have no problems with it. It's catching about RHS 95% of the spam, which I hope will increase eventually, but even then RHS that's only one or two a day that get through. Mine is at 99.8% for last month and 99.94% for last week :) -- Cheers, Andre Of course I'm sane. The voices said so. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Graham, On 15 Jun 2004 at 09:04:30 +0200 GMT [09:04 CEST] you wrote: GD Ok, I've deleted the dictionaries, but I still don't get the train option GD that used to be available in 0.4x. GD Can you explain how I start training BayesIt The only remaining way is to use Specials- Mark as Junk/ Mark as not Junk. Mark some mails and then use these menu entries to train bayesit. -- Cheers, Andre Call it a clan, call it a network, call it a tribe, call it a family. Whatever you call it, whoever you are, you need one. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Graham, On 11 Jun 2004 at 18:40:11 +0200 GMT [18:40 CEST] you wrote: GD I was running 0.4g which at least appeared to be working, I just upgraded GD to 0.5.3 and within 2 hours all my mails ended up in the Junk folder. When upgrading from 0.4 to 0.5 you need to delete the dictionaries and retrain from zero. Then v0.5 works quite fine. I get 99.7% accuracy here. -- Cheers, Andre Die Toleranz ist nicht grenzenlos. Sie findet ihre Grenze, vielleicht ihre einzige Grenze, in der etwaigen Intoleranz des anderen. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %THEBATVERSION Extension
Hello Wolffe, On 9 Jun 2004 at 13:45:26 -0400 GMT [19:45 CEST] you wrote: W .02, .03, etc are the current Beta tests. No. 02 is a service release and the latest release version. 03 is a beta. -- Cheers, Andre Das Gras wächst nicht schneller, wenn man daran zieht. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Your attachments
Hello Thomas, On 9 Jun 2004 at 23:59:20 +0700 GMT [18:59 CEST] you wrote: MDP Version 2 introduced PGP/MIME support and some of us sign our MDP messages with it. TF Over here the attachments are called Part.txt. Should I be worried? There are two attachements. The signature is message.att. You don't see that with v2. part.txt is the list footer. -- Cheers, Andre If it's raining, a cute thing to tell a child is 'God is crying.' If they ask why, another cute thing to say is, 'Probably something you did.' Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: installing 2.11
Hello Robin, On 7 Jun 2004 at 10:09:14 +1000 GMT [02:09 CEST] you wrote: RA I installed 2.x over the top of 1.x without any problems. I think the RA only issue is you may not be able to go back from 2.x to 1.x without RA re-installing. It has to do with changes to the folder structure. You can go back. The only thing is any changes you made to the folder structure in v2 will not be there in v1. -- Cheers, Andre Beato chi può dire a se stesso: io ho asciugato una lacrima. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos re-installation question)
Hello Cyrille, On 7 Jun 2004 at 08:24:50 +0200 GMT [08:24 CEST] you wrote: C I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did not understand C one thing: C When you say install over do you mean to run the complete C installation exe or do you mean just to exchange to old thebat.exe C against the new thebat.exe ? C What other files does the installation exe update? C Is there a reason not to just swap simply the executables, but to run C the installation exe? Without the installation you will not get the smilies and if there were any updates to the helpfile you will miss those as well. -- Cheers, Andre He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The bat and kapersky AV
Hello WilWilWil, On 7 Jul 2004 at 13:30:37 +0200 GMT [13:30 CEST] you wrote: W Hi, W I use the bat 2.11.02. I want to use an anti-virus soft as plug in in the bat. W I wanted to use AVG but I thing free version doesn't offer the plug in. I had to W buy AVG 7. There's a plugin for AVG 6 (free): http://files.grisoft.cz/softw/thebat/avgbat10us.exe -- Cheers, Andre I hate racial discrimination most intensely and all its manifestations. I have fought all my life; I fight now, and will do so until the end of my days. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Bayesit! Plugin... once more :(
Hello Arnaud, On 7 Jun 2004 at 20:19:24 +0200 GMT [20:19 CEST] you wrote: AL Is there a way to reset the bayesit! plugin ? It always annoys AL me with this missing files (see below) Delete the working directory and remove the plugin. Then add the plugin again. It should install with default values. But maybe it's enough to delete the corrupted files and let bayesit recreate them? -- Cheers, Andre Träume nicht dein Leben, sondern lebe deinen Traum! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello ken, On 8 Jun 2004 at 17:10:09 -0500 GMT [00:10 CEST] you wrote: kg I thought I read somewhere (release notes?) that the chat feature kg could be used to watch a conversation (?) Could this be used in kg such a way as to create a virtual folder of *threads* to watch? That kg would be pretty cool, I think. kg Currently, trying to do something like that is possible, but would kg involve a lot of extra work (filters and message coloring, etc.) kg I would definitely use something that I could mark a *thread* to kg watch. kg Do I have this all consufed? Kinda. You can create a folder and then right click a message and use Specials - watch replies in and select the chat folder. That has nothing to do with mail chat, though. -- Cheers, Andre It's the heart afraid of breaking that never learns to dance. It is the dream afraid of waking that never takes the chance. It is the one who won't be taken who cannot seem to give. And the soul afraid of dying that never learns to live. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Date bug/problem
Hello Jacopo, On 6 Jun 2004 at 12:54:45 +0200 GMT [12:54 CEST] you wrote: JO Mi Internet Provider send me the spam log file any day. JO The problem is that the date of this message is always wrong. JO In the followiong message the date I get in TB message view is JO 4 January 2022, 6.10 AM JO -- exemple begin --- JO To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JO Date: Sat Jun 5 04:22:14 2004 JO From: Staff superEva [EMAIL PROTECTED] JO Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JO Subject: Susended mail at 04/06/2004 JO -- exemple end - JO How is it possible? A Bug? Yes, but at their end. Acording to RFC the date must be day of week, day month year time timezone In you example it is day of week month day time year How is tb! supposed to get anything useful out of that? -- Cheers, Andre Geh nicht nur die glatten Strassen: geh Wege, die vor Dir noch niemand ging, damit Du Spuren hinterlässt,und nicht nur Staub. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bayesit and the bat speed/multitasking
Hello Max, On 6 Jun 2004 at 12:49:42 +0200 GMT [12:49 CEST] you wrote: MRA BayesIt and Junk mails: MRA I can see that BayesIt has loaded it's files etc. in the Information MRA page of the plugin, but it has not filtered any messages yet - all MRA stats (except the stuff about the base) is all zero's !? MRA Is that intentional ? ;) MRA Is there a way to find out if BayesIt has evaluated a message ? Like MRA show the junk-score in a column or something There are log files in the working directory which show how each mail is evaluated. But the stats should definitely not be all zero. Have you marked mails as junk and not junk? Does this change the values for the bases? -- Cheers, Andre Hard work never killed anyone, but why chance it? Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: installing 2.11
Hello Richard, On 6 Jun 2004 at 08:09:17 +0100 GMT [09:09 CEST] you wrote: RW No real help but all TB! versions have seen my TB! directory (it's RW different from the default) without having to change it manually. Yes, RW you can install over old ones but only as far back as version 2 (I RW think). ;-) I think you can install on top of 1.x, too. That's what I did when I moved to v2. -- Cheers, Andre Das echte Gespräch bedeutet: Aus dem Ich heraustreten und an die Tür des Du klopfen Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit configuration - help needed
Hello Ian, On 6 Jun 2004 at 15:30:39 +0100 GMT [16:30 CEST] you wrote: IP So. I am trying to configure BayesIt to leave the messages IP it regards as spam in the inbox but merely mark them read. There is IP a check box to do this (on The Bat! preferences anti-spam leaf) but , IP although it is checked it is also greyed out and does not appear to IP function (NB I have both the 'delete' and 'move' checkboxes IP unchecked). Is this normal and does anyone know what is going on? This is for marking mail as read that is moved to the junk folder. As you don't move mail it does nothing. IP Perhaps unrelated, if I go to The Bat! preferences plug-ins leaf, IP highlight BayesIt and click configure the Rules button for setting IP black/white lists is similarly greyed out. Again, is this normal? Back/whitelists are not yet implented. IP I guess the main problem is the seemingly poor help available for IP BayesIt. Is there a help file somewhere I haven't located? I'd like to IP know what all the options mean! There's an old english one for v0.4: http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesiteng.htm As far as I know the newer one is only evailable in russian: http://www.ritlabs.com/ru/solutions/BayesIt.php There are some comments though in the advanced.ini file. -- Cheers, Andre Die Normalität ist eine gepflasterte Straße; man kann gut darauf gehen - doch es wachsen keine Blumen auf ihr. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bayesit and the bat speed/multitasking
Hello Allie, On 6 Jun 2004 at 07:25:29 -0500 GMT [14:25 CEST] you wrote: AM Are you using BayesIt with an IMAP account? I don't know if it will AM work with IMAP accounts. I always thought that the plugins don't care for the protocoll and will work with imap and pop. The old homepage for bayesit 0.4 said as much. However, the site for v0.5 says that it doesn't work with imap so there seems to have changed something. -- Cheers, Andre L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT and IMAP?
Hello Keith, On 5 Jun 2004 at 23:44:51 -0600 GMT [07:44 CEST] you wrote: KR Now that I'm thinking of returning to TB for my IMAP account, can KR anyone tell me whether or not BayesIT works with IMAP? (I KR couldn't figure out a way to search this question, since so many KR users have the word BayesIT in their signatures.) The Anti spam plugins don't care which protocol is used, they just get the messages from tb! So yes, Bayesit should work fine with imap. -- Cheers, Andre Love is the feeling that you feel when you feel the feeling that you never felt before. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to mark junk and quarantaine mail as read ?
Hello WilWilWil, On 5 Jun 2004 at 12:18:36 +0200 GMT [12:18 CEST] you wrote: W My AVG plug in move mail with virus to quarantaine folder. But these mails are W not mark as read, so my tray icon still animated and account name is bold so I'm W never sure that I've read all messages. W Same thing happen with junk mail... Use Mark junk as read in Prefernces- anti spam -- Cheers, Andre Geh nicht nur die glatten Strassen: geh Wege, die vor Dir noch niemand ging, damit Du Spuren hinterlässt,und nicht nur Staub. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello mm, On 5 Jun 2004 at 08:52:21 -0400 GMT [14:52 CEST] you wrote: AM I just saw one from mmMeister on HTML editor enhancements. I'm AM pretty sure he's not the only one T I always thought Maggie was a she. mM Last I looked checking. Yep! A she!! I can only speak for me but it would definitely help to include your first name under from: Maggie is pretty clear but I definitly look more often there than at the signature. -- Cheers, Andre I drank what? Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello Mary, On 5 Jun 2004 at 09:05:02 -0500 GMT [16:05 CEST] you wrote: MB Andre, not looking at the sig, you miss all the delightful cookies! MB (I'm now cross-posting to tbot :) ) It's not that I ignore sigs completely. But will not spend all parts of it equal attention. The cookies is the most interesting part of it of course. But I meant something different: when mentioning someone or someone' mail I don't look at the mail itself. I may only look at the message list. When I want to know from whom a mail is that's where I look. Not all sigs carry a name, but the header usually does. It really helps if it's there more than elsewhere. MB For instance, this one from Andre: MB I drank what? I like it. It's funny (or maybe it isn't. But I imagine it to be.). MB :42: As always. :) -- Cheers, Andre Let me assure you that to us here at First National, you're not just a number. You're two numbers, a dash, three more numbers, another dash and another number. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello Maggie, On 5 Jun 2004 at 13:59:04 -0400 GMT [19:59 CEST] you wrote: M I found Folder - Properties - Identity and changed it to Maggie. Is it better now? Yes perfect. :) You can even do it on a per template basis: %from='Name address' -- Cheers, Andre The world is only as big as the window you open to it. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Watch by
Hello Ben, On 3 Jun 2004 at 02:09:54 +0100 GMT [03:09 CEST] you wrote: BA Howdy TBUDL, BA In folder properties it in the bottom left hand corner that is a BA button that says watch by. If clicked it brings up the folder BA structure with option to select or deselect all. What is this for? BA Is it a method of getting other folders to become trainee MI5 BA operatives? Just wondering if i have missed something? Create Chat folder. Now you can select a message and choose watch by and choose that chat folder. you can then watch the thread in that folder. -- Cheers, Andre I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bayesit (was: (no subject))
Hello Arnaud, On 2 Jun 2004 at 19:32:30 +0200 GMT [19:32 CEST] you wrote: AL Yop, AL I've found the problem ! When i go in Options menu and then plugin, i AL can find information about Bayesit! And here is what it tells me : AL ° C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\bayesit\base\spamdict.bye AL ° Error loading file. May be it is corrupted or lost. That's were the infomation about the spams is stored. It should get created by bayesit. AL How come this file doesn't exist ? No idea. This is not right. does it really not exist or could it be corrupted? If it's corrupted you could try to rename it and see if bayesit creates a new one. Else the only thing I could think of would be to reinstall bayesit. By the way, what version of bayesit are you running? -- Cheers, Andre I am so clever, sometimes I don't understand a word of what I'm saying. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
bayesit (was: (no subject))
Hello Arnaud, On 1 Jun 2004 at 13:33:06 +0200 GMT [13:33 CEST] you wrote: AL Hi AL I'm testing the Bat! and what a great program ! AL I'm trying to use Bayesit filter... but it doesn't seem to work very AL well. I'l tagging as junk every Spam I receive but until now spam are AL always incoming to my inbox and not to the junk box. AL Can anyone help with the settings of this filter please ? How many mails have you marked as junk and not junk? Try a few hundred of each. You can try lowering the sett9ing for move to junk in preferences but usually bayesit will give a score of 0 or 99/100 so this setting doesn't much matter. In the beginning of the training phase it might be worth a try though. -- Cheers, Andre We are, each of us angels with only one wing; and we can only fly by embracing one another. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: AV
Hello Mary, On 1 Jun 2004 at 21:32:13 -0500 GMT [04:32 CEST] you wrote: MB I ran AVG for a few months a couple of years ago. It's good, too. Some MB folks have been having trouble lately getting updates to download on MB the free version of it--according to Rootsweb's Virus Discussion List. Yes. That's why I changed to avast! and never looked back. Excellent choice if you want to pay no money. -- Cheers, Andre If it's raining, a cute thing to tell a child is 'God is crying.' If they ask why, another cute thing to say is, 'Probably something you did.' Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
