Changing blue reply bar in HTML mails
Dear all, Now that the The Bat finally preserves the formatting of my customers' HTML mails in my replies, I have but one thing to wish and to ask: How can I change the blue bar on the left side (which is used as reply indicator in the default setting) into something less obtrusive? so far, I haven't been able to find this out myself. Please forgive me if this question should have been asked and answered before - I have lost my yahoogoups access information and long given up attempting to get it back from their support robots... Thanks and kind regards, Anselm Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?
I'm not so impressed with BayesIt right now either. Doesn't seem to do a thing. Same here - I've been training it for months now with hundreds and thousands lots of good emails and spam emails, but to no avail. Kind regards, Anselm -- Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 176 2322 4331 |mobile Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML replies to HTML messages
I don't usually use HTML for my email communication. However, once in a while I receive HTML mails where formatting DOES matter. I would like to preserve the HTML format when replying to those mails so that I can quote and refer to the quoted text in my answer. Unfortunatey, I have not yet been able to find out how this is done with The Bat. I can create HTML mails from the scratch, but when I reply to a mail, the reply defaults to Text only. When I toggle back to HTML, the HTML formatting of the original mail is lost. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Anselm (The Bat! Professional 3.0.1.33) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML replies to HTML messages
Hello Mary, Thomas and Mary! ;-) Thanks for your comments. I have tried the combination of the OTEXT macro and the HTML only option but to no avail. The HTML formatting of the original mail gets lost. Anyway, I would want to continue to use MicroEd as standard editor and use HTML replies to HTML mails only where they are necessary / make sense. It seems, then, that the answer is this: On the other hand, it may be that it's not possible to do what you want. Which is a real drawback in an otherwise very good mail program ( the only other substantial drawback which comes to my mind is the missing Unicode support). Thanks, all the best, Anselm Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: HTML replies to HTML messages)
Hi Roloef, Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. [sigh] - Actually I deleted my signature (and the delimiter) in order to avoid problems of this kind. I didn't realize that a signature is apparently automatically attached to every mail posted to TBUDL. I'm sure the intentions are only the best and no, I do not feel singled out. Still, it feels kind of strange if 1. you remove your signature, 2. one is automatically attached to the message and 3. you then get an automatic reply reminding you to include a cut mark into your message... Kind regards and a great weekend to you and everyone! Anselm -- Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 176 2322 4331 |mobile Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML replies to HTML messages
Hi Mary, Well, as Alexander pointed out, it's a recognized bug. So you might go here and write a supporting note: Thanks, done! Feel free to join me there, everyone! :-) Have a nice weekend, Anselm -- Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 176 2322 4331 |mobile Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: view modes
*sigh* I know you only meant to do it right, but actually my name is Andre without any accent. Sorry for that and thanks again, Andre! All the best, Anselm Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Deleting messages in virtual folder
Hm. I just decided to play around with the virtual folder feature - admittedly without in-depth-knowledge of the concept. I created a common virtual folder and instructed it to collect all my unreplied mail which goes to a certain account. I also set it to monitor my existing folders for unreplied messages to that account. I opened the folder and found that it did indeed contain all unreplied messages addressed to the account in question. Just fine. Now I wanted to empty the folder, because I intended to use it for new unreplied messages rather than for my old ones. I was cautious enough to backup my folders before trying. And that proved to be very wise. Having emptied the virtual folder (using the context menu command in the virtual folder view, in which no other folders where displayed), I found that all messages which had been collected by the virtual folder had in fact been deleted from the existing non-virtual folders. They were still present in the virtual folder though. What did I do wrong? I would have expected that the virtual folder contains only links to the messages which it collects, and I wanted to delete these links in the virtual folder rather than real messages in my existing folders. should I have used another command to achieve this - and if so, which one? Thanks and kind regards, Anselm Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
view modes
Hi, Here's the next query about version 2.10 - seems the new features don't come easily to me... Well, I tried to set up two different view modes - one for my business mail, one for mailing lists (the latter one with threaded view). Saved them with different names and specified for which folders each one applies. Unfortunately, they don't work as I want them to. Either ALL folders are in threaded view, or none is. Changing the view mode for a folder by context menu or short cut seems to have effect. When I select a folder and change the view using the View View threads by command, it is changed - but, again, for ALL folders, not only for the selected one. Again, what am I doing wrong? Everything was fine before I started to play with view modes, but now I'm not able to set different viewing options for different folders anymore... Kind regards, Anselm Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleting messages in virtual folder
Dear Marck That's a biggy. Do anything to a message in a VF and you do it to the original. It's not a cop0y of the message, it's a convenient access point for the real thing. Got that, thanks! Oh - and I have a little trout for you about your Cut Mark - but I'll do that separately. Got that, too. Better now? Kind regards, Anselm -- Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 176 2322 4331 |mobile Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: view modes
Hi André, Have you set View-Global View Mode to (No View Mode)? Thanks a bunch, that did the trick! Kind regards, Anselm Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! and Unicode
Hi, Is there any way to enable TB for Unicode (so as to use Unicode for writing messages and to correctly display messages written in Unicode)? Just setting a Unicode font for the Viewer will not do, as it seems. Sorry if this topic has been discussed before; I am one of those who got trapped in the Yahoo registration process and thus cannot search the archives. Thanks and kind regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! and Unicode
Unfortunately answer is No. The Bat! currently does not support Unicode. Thanks. Anyone knows whether Unicode support is planned, then, and when we might expect it? Kind regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Nothing visible in main window
Hi, has anybody experienced this problem before?: After setting up a new XP system, I installed TB, imported my mailbase and configuration - no problem. A few hours later - after several restarts and the installation of some drivers - I started TB to find the main program window blank. And blank it remained, no matter what I tried. All the dialog boxes opened OK, message sending and receiving apparently worked, but there was nothing to see - no folders, no account tree, no preview pane - nothing. Just white space. I restored the system state before the latest driver installation, but to no avail. I had to uninstall and reinstall TB. Everything display OK now, but I worry that the problem will occur again. Any clues? Kind regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mangled attachments
Hi There must be a common denominator for this problem, perhaps we should start again and do what we learned in University: Analyze (from Greek for taking apart) the problem step by step. Seems very reasonable to me, so let's go! 1. Where do you all store your attachments, in separate directory or within the message? Separate directory. Just changed settings to message body to check that out. 2. What other tasks are running (TSRs, virus scanners, firewalls, IMs ...)? Firewall: ZA (not loaded today). Virus Scanner: AntiVir. Rambooster (OK, OK, I'll kick that one out, too...). 3. What kind of connection do you have? DSL access 4. Are there any file formats that are *not* affected? No problems with zip files, so far. 5. Anybody else knowing a good question? Yep: How do you usually open attachments? From the mail or the directory they're saved to? Here's why: I had activated the option store in separate directory, but the only reason was to keep the message base compact and to be able to delete attachments separately when they're not longer needed. For working purposes, I always used to open (or drag and drop) the attached files directly from the mail and save them in client/job specific folders. Only now, when writing this mail, it came to my mind to have a look at the attachment directory. Guess what? I found uncorrupted copies of the problematic files there! But that's not all. I also found one or more corrupted copies of the files in question, with a later creation date and a number attached to the file name. Thus if, e.g. I received a file 'translation.rtf', the directory contains the original file, which opens perfectly fine, and then some other files: 'translation1.rtf', translation2.rtf'... which look messed up like they did when I opened/saved them from the mail. Judging from the creation dates, a new file version with a new number seems to have been created on each attempt to open/save the file from the mail. Now that's interesting, isn't it? All the best, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled attachments
Hi, This problem has been discussed in other threads. Same over here: Attachements (Word, RTF, TXT...) are regularly messed up. I first thought that the problem is sender-dependent but then realized it is not. The spoilt attachments alwas stem from messages with multiple attachments of different file types, though, so that one could suspect a connection. No NAV installed on my system, so that can't be the cause. Resending to myself doesn't work in my case. Attachment management is crucial for me, so I guess, I'll have to switch to another program - at least for the time being. All the best, Anselm For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a bug in TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something that I should be blaming on NAV. When a message with multiple attachments arrives, if the attachments are Word files or JPGs, I can count on some file corruption. The JPGs will be unreadable or partly readable, for example. This is virtually guaranteed to happen if there are 3 or more attachments. When the attachment is a zip file, it always seems to arrive intact. Is this a problem anyone else on the list has seen? I'd really like to retire Eudora, but I can't until I solve this little problem. Thanks! Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 -- Bill Blinn, Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/12/2002 at 7:39 AM Technology Corner, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio http://www.technology-corner.com == NEW HOME FOR THE SHOW! Featured speaker: CorelWORLD - http://www.corelworld.com Random thought: There are two kinds of books: those that no one reads and those that no one ought to read. - H.L. Mencken Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mangled attachments
Hi Sudip, Are you using ZA or behind any firewall? This may be worth looking into. I, for one, do, so that might be a clue! But would that mean that no firewall can be used together with TB if you want to receive correct attachments? using a broadband access without firewall seems way to dangerous these days... Regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mangled attachments
Hi Lars, Although some of the arguments might seem a bit exaggerated at first, I can tell from my own experience that not using a personal firewall isn't much of a loss. You only have to keep up with security updates for your system, but shouldn't everyone do that? ;-) Hmm, while one certainly shouldn't overestimate the effect personal firewalls, I wonder whether you're really safer off with M$ security updates... ;-/ Kind regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mangled attachments
Hi Jonathan, Not at all... try turning off the mail filtering options, and see if that helps cure things. I haven't used ZA in a long while, so I cannot point you to where it is. Either that, or try a different firewall for a short while. Thanks, will try that and hope it will be the solution of the mystery! Kind regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mangled attachments
Turning off ZA mail filtering options did not help. So i'll have to test on. Next step would be to completely deactivate ZA. Will do as soon as I have time and a partner to test. Kind regards, Anselm -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, September 12, 2002, Anselm Buehling wrote... Are you using ZA or behind any firewall? This may be worth looking into. I, for one, do, so that might be a clue! But would that mean that no firewall can be used together with TB if you want to receive correct attachments? Not at all... try turning off the mail filtering options, and see if that helps cure things. I haven't used ZA in a long while, so I cannot point you to where it is. Either that, or try a different firewall for a short while. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPYCoxiuD6BT4/R9zEQLIYACguAzCgz8fvUZeLnI3X9FDw1oEuP4AoNIE NdOwUCCemV8qo51l3b3bowB1 =cohr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Attached documents being spoiled
Hi Jonathan, The thing that is getting me is the fact that trying to open them is messing up, but resending them to yourself means they can be opened fine. To me this suggests something might have been messed up during the send/receive. I've seen in the parallel thread that resending to yourself seems to work for some people. It doesn't work for me, though. What you may want to try doing is looking at the source of the email, and make sure there are no extra line breaks in the email, like such: [...] ACD//wAA//8AAABoBgAANP//AgBUAEQAS QBNAEQAQgBE Bingo! I've looked at two of these emails and found extra line breaks in messed up rtf/doc attachments. (The messed up text attachments, on the other hand, don't seem to contain any line breaks at all; the characters just spread all over the screen). Now what can I do about this? Thanks and regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Attached documents being spoiled
Hi Jonathan, Bingo! I've looked at two of these emails and found extra line breaks in messed up rtf/doc attachments. I should have given you an example of what it should have looked like, but based on your reaction, I think you may have already established too many line breaks. It's clear enough from comparison with the attachments which I received OK. Now what can I do about this? Select message, Tools - Export - Unix .msg file. Open in notepad (or textpad if it is too big, you may not want to use wordpad as it does some odd things to files), then go and delete those extra line breaks in the file. Save, Tools - Import - .msg file, and select it... now try opening the attachment again. E, thanks. What I actually hoped, though, was that there is some setting to avoid this happening in the first place. I send and receive dozens of attachment each day, that's why I need a professional mail application. If I'm left with editing messed up attachments manually in an editor every second day, I'd rather change to another program. For the time being, I ask my clients to send me zipped files which I receive without problems. They keep forgetting about it, though, so that I have to ask them to resend their files. And of course I promised them I would take care of this issue. Thus, forgive me my little rant - and thanks to you, Jonathan, for your helpfulness all the way through! All the best, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attached documents being spoiled
Dear all, Since I use The Bat (1.60h), which I am otherwise very satisfied with, I experience a strange and annoying problem: Attached documents from certain sender addresses get spoilt, i.e. they arrive in an unreadable state. In text documents, line breakes are removed; RTF and DOC documents display not the actual text but just a couple of strange characters. Zipped documents from the same senders arrive OK, though. Does anyone have an idea why this happens and how it can be fixed? I work as a translator and receive documents every day; clients already have asked whether I really want to keep that strange email program... I have no idea myself, but there's an observation which might or might not be related to the problem. Maybe someone who knows more about this than I do will get a clue from this. Here's the content-type header of a message with a spoilt attachment: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=_=_NextPart_000_01C255C4.B7602E40 And here's the content-type header of a message where the attachment arrived OK: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary==_358678532==_ Sorry if this should have been discussed before. I can't access the archives, since I cannot log in to Yahoo (once lost my password Yahoo ID and got despaired with their automated procedures ever after...) Thanks in advance and kind regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Attached documents being spoiled
Hi Jonathan, Do all clients that have the problem at your end use the same mail client? No. How about same mail server? No. Are you 100% sure the text files come with line breaks in them? Yes, definitely. Another thought: I'm not so sure that the problem is really sender-related, as in at least one case I successfully received an unzipped Excel file from a sender with whose attachments I use to have problems. It might well be that the problem occurs with mails that contain several attachments of different file types. Is it possible that The Bat has difficulties with recognizing different kinds of files attached to the same mail? Or that a certain setting needs to be made? Kind regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
