ALL MAIL in my BAT InBox has disappeared (except very latest download)
What is the world can be going on with The Bat here in my sys? Everything in my BAT InBox has disappeared again (except very latest download). Can somebody explain what is going on here? I feel my e-mail is totally out of control . . it is as if I cannot depend on this software any more. And I cannot succeed in downloading the latest version of The Bat and installing it. (It is not helpful to Browse Deleted Messages.) David www.davidausten.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with new version download 1.53bis
From David Robert Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anybody help? I was very happy to see the new version 1.53bis, but installing it has been a small disaster. I believe I had the most recent previous version of The Bat and so I overwrote that. FTP and HTTP version downloads both give the same result. Can somebody suggest something? Of course I will be happy to uninstall if necessary - assuming that does not damage my message folders. I am now temporarily using an older version of The Bat: 1.46d. I can I overwrite this safely with a new version? Here are two of the error messages I have been seeing. Bat begins to load but only the cartoon Bat graphic appears before these show: 1. access violation at address 00650FC1 2. exception EREADError n Module TheBat.exeat 00020E57. error reading ITree.Ident: Error creating window I have also written to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but there have been no responses. Thank you in advance. David www.davidausten.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Finding and recovering lost messages; all in a range of dates have diappeared from InBox.
Thank you. yes, this is a tap on the shoulder to clean up and clean out my hard disk. thank you, all. David From: David Robert Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ai Hi David Robert Austen, Ai On the Saturday, May 19, 2001, U wrote: DRA Yes, there have been problems elsewhere on the system, including a DRA fairly full HD and more lock-ups than usual. Ai Well this might 'cause all you have stated... The Bat is updating Ai files every time you get new message so it might be the reason for Ai data corruption... DRA I have seen Bat Messages asking me if I wish to repair. I have DRA always replied Yes and the repair has occurred without problem in DRA every case. Ai Probably those messages got corrupted and The Bat deleted them so they Ai do destroy more of database... DRA I've not lost any other data from other programs. Ai You might think so... Almost every time I get in trouble with low Ai drive space I got my registry waked... Its just an accident waiting to Ai get you... Especially if you don't have fixed swap file... Ai But those are only my experiences with W95 OSR2... Might not happen in Ai later versions of Winblows... www.davidausten.com www.zillionbucks.com Web Hosting Services for Internet-Savvy People -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Finding and recovering lost messages; all in a range of dates have diappeared from InBox.
(I first asked for this help on this matter on May 15, but there was no reply at all. Is there *anybody* there who can understand why these messages are disappearing and where they might be going?) Greetings, I have discovered that every downloaded Inbox message *Created* between from 7 May to 15 May (inclusive) is suddenly missing. Other messages all seem to be here, still intact, in my Inbox. (At the same time, the order of the columns (fields)in my Inbox became somewhat rearranged.) The only hint of trouble I saw was the warning messages that came up, warning of The Bat's inability to locate a certain folder I created that same morning - for filtering out some spam. Somehow that folder's name became badly corrupted. I also had my sys freeze once or twice while The Bat was operational; the cause is not known. (TBUDL messages are filtered to their own folder, and no TBUDL messages are missing from that week-long period.) I have done searches of Bat messages and archives here and find no clues to this problem. Your assistance would be much appreciated. Clues or comments? Thank you in advance. David Austen -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Finding and recovering lost messages; all in a range of dates have diappeared from InBox.
Thank you, Allie: Good idea, but there was nothing there. Perhaps I have waited too long to do that (BDMs). Yes, there have been problems elsewhere on the system, including a fairly full HD and more lock-ups than usual. I have seen Bat Messages asking me if I wish to repair. I have always replied Yes and the repair has occurred without problem in every case. I've not lost any other data from other programs. I appreciate your early and thoughtful response, Allie. Best wishes, David Austen From: David Robert Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ACM Hash: SHA1 ACM On Sat, 19 May 2001 06:11:32 -0400, David contributed this to our ACM collective wisdom: DRA I have discovered that every downloaded Inbox message *Created* DRA between from 7 May to 15 May (inclusive) is suddenly missing. Other DRA messages all seem to be here, still intact, in my Inbox. DRA (At the same time, the order of the columns (fields)in my Inbox DRA became somewhat rearranged.) ACM Sounds bizarre. Bizarre problems with a folder may indicate a message base ACM corruption. ACM My only suggestion is to select the folder, go to the folder menu and ACM choose 'browse deleted messages'. If the deleted messages are there, then ACM you can restore them, otherwise they are likely gone forever with your ACM only means of restoring them being from a backup. DRA The only hint of trouble I saw was the warning messages that came up, DRA warning of The Bat's inability to locate a certain folder I created DRA that same morning - for filtering out some spam. Somehow that DRA folder's name became badly corrupted. DRA I also had my sys freeze once or twice while The Bat was operational; DRA the cause is not known. ACM TB! is quite a stable product and this is unusual. Are there any problems ACM elsewhere on your system? ACM - -- ACM ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) ACM Using SecureBat! (v1.53 Beta/8/iKey1000) 293FF-929OB [OS: Win2K Pro (SP1)] ACM - ACM 'Half of the people in the world are below average.' ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- ACM Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) ACM Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). ACM iQA/AwUBOwZZhFfJ62ArBxfiEQIdiwCeOlusQiyoyjaPkPAeUrgCmVCwk/AAoIji ACM o8Rz8KneFx/4wcCKPYjKUH+T ACM =Qaxm ACM -END PGP SIGNATURE- www.davidausten.com www.zillionbucks.com Web Hosting Services for Internet-Savvy People -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Finding and recovering lost messages; all in a range of dates have diappeared.
From David Robert Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings, I have just now discovered that every Inbox message *created* from 7 May to 15 May (inclusive) is now missing. Today's messages all seem to be here, still. At the same time, the order of the columns (fields)in my Inbox has been somewhat rearranged. The only hint of trouble I saw was the warning messages that have come up this morning, warning of The Bat's inability to locate a certain folder I created this morning for filtering out some spam; somehow that folder's name became badly corrupted. I have had my sys freeze once or twice this morning while The Bat was operational; the cause is not known. (TBUDL messages are filtered to their own folder, and no TBUDL messages are missing from that week-long period.) I have done searches of Bat messages and archives here and find no clues to this problem, Your assistance would be much appreciated. Clues or comments? Thank you in advance. David Austen -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: new user *to the group*
Your letter to Jennifer was very helpful and reminded me of a problem I have here. You menitoned clicking on the tree icon. Whenever I do that (for any reason at all) The Bat freezes up. With Ctr-Alt-Del, I discover a Not Responding warning in the Close Program dialog box. I have learned to only create filters using the Special menu inside a message. I think that I have upgraded Bat once already and this problem persists. I believe it has always been present. Ideas anybody? Do I need to reinstall one or more files, for example? Thank you in advance. David Austen From: David Robert Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] OG Hello Jennifer, OG Monday, April 23, 2001, 1:00:22 PM, you wrote: JL I cannot get it to operate, i.e. receive/send messages. So I JL contacted the Web site to get some Help. There was none. The only JL offering was this discussion group (which isn't even sponsored by JL the company). So I contacted the group with my same questions. I JL have received 20 messages in my In Box since then. I did not JL realize that I was going to receive all emails on all topics from JL all users all the time. I do not want this at all. I want only to JL a) to get this system operable on my computer or b) find out how JL to safely and thoroughly uninstall it so that I can go hassle with JL Eudora again. OG I see that you still use Eudora, so I guess that you have not been OG able to send and recieve with The Bat! yet? OG Have you been able to make an account? In that case you right click on OG the account name, choose Properties and click on Transport in the menu OG that appears. Check that you have correct settings for smpt-server, OG pop-server, username and password. OG If you do not have an account yet: make one by selecting Account New OG on the meny bar and follow the instructions. OG Then check Options, Network and administration to select connection OG via local network or via Windows Dial Up. OG Then do you see the blue box with an arrow pointing in. Use this to OG collect mail and use the green box to send mail if you have put mail OG in the que. OG The keybord combination Alt-F2 make both at the sam time. OG If you still do have trouble, please tell us the more specific nature OG of it. OG One of the great features of The Bat! is the folder system and OG filtering. I have made a special folder for this mailing list and made OG a filter to direct all messages into that folder. This is quite OG necessary to free up the inbox for more private messages. OG Select Account, Sorting Office/Filters, Incoming Mail, New. Enter OG TBUDL in the open space for filtering strings and click the tree icon OG besides the field for Move messages. Press new to make a new folder, OG name it TBUDL and select this. OG If you want to quit the list altogether, there is a link at the bottom OG of this message, but think twice. Though the traffic is a bit OG overwhelming, here are meny very helpful and knowledgable persons here OG that will help you to make The Bat! work very well for you. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: rename folder
I just go to Properties for that Folder and change the name. david From: David Robert Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- PM Hash: SHA1 PM Hi you all, PM is there a way of renaming an existing TB folder without producing a new PM one, then transferrring all mails from the old one, then deleting the old PM one? - This was the only way I found yet of "renaming" a folder. There PM might be an easier approach ... ? PM Cheers PM Peter PM - -- PM PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt PM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- PM Version: PGP 6.5i PM Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication PM iQA/AwUBOuIWTgM2UgbhB3TOEQIAawCgrOQcsESTf/j0Pp3m0s9aCZEEY/gAoN5S PM kQz2xCSBv7E14nZD9POwUwJV PM =p/92 PM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting or re-ordering the folder list ?
Greetings, (I posted this only recently, in response to kind help from Thomas.) (I will appreciate comments and corrections, too.) Do you want to put all Bat mail folders in alphabetical order perhaps? But do you also want some *other* kind of overriding order, "above" alphabetical order? I do. To order only alphabetically, click the large bar (with the single word "folder") just above the display of the folder hierarchy. Then answer "yes." BUT before that, notice . . . Are you sure you want ALL of your account re-ordered? It does not seem possible to re-order only the folders contained in just one folder. The entire account - including Inbox etc. - will be reordered alphabetically. It can be messy. Folders of filtered mail will mix with Inbox and Outbox and Sent, for example. You will notice that you can use numbers (1, 1.09, 2.0, 2.009 as prefixes for folder names) and other symbols before letters, as a way of overriding strict alphabetical ordering. Next chore? Having my filter folders automatically created within a folder, so filter folders do not mix with the entire account. Ideas anybody? David Robert Austen From: David Robert Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- OM Hash: SHA1 OM Hello all, OM Is it possible to re-order the folder list ? -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: FAQ's and sealing wax
There's a usability issue here in the discussion of FAQs. Makes sense that "newbies" be asked to contribute some special FAQs for other newbies. "Old pros" can "look over the shoulder" and be sure the facts are right. But the newbie's own descriptions and labels (nomenclature) will likely be more appropriate for the other newbies that have general questions. It is very difficult for "senior users" to anticipate the newebie questions and remember how puzzling it all was for us. Hell, I'm still puzzled a lot of the time. My two cents. David From: David Robert Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] a Hello Jan, a As a a relative newbie myself, I suggest the best way to begin is to a play around with the program. Questions will defintely arise from a your usage reading other's questions/answers on this list. a Then ask your own questions. The members of this list are a *extremely* supportive. No question is considered stupid. You may a be referred to a FAQ file or some other source but then the info a will be in context easier to digest. a Welcome to The Bat! cave ;-) aI've been exploring some of the FAQ files and have noted that amany presume at least a certain basic familiarity with the anomenclature. I'd do best to start with a glossary. a ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Spam filtering (WAS virus mails. . .)
Hello, Your instruction below is a bit unclear to me. The "regular expressions syntax (basic)" in Bat Help does not tell me enough about *implementation* within Bat. Can anybody help? - - - String: @ Location: Sender Presence: No Action: delete message. - - - - And I wonder, is this work that one does from SPECIALS CREATE FILTER best, david David Robert Austen T Hi Fabio, T On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:53:29 +0200GMT (09/04/2001, 14:53 +0800GMT), T Fabio Colonnello wrote: FC How can I try to stop these spamming ? T I believe there is a chapter on spam handling in the FAQ. FC Is anithing I can do with TheBat! to make a filter to automatically FC delete these kinf of incoming mails ? (without sender) T String: @ T Location: Sender T Presence: No T Action: delete message. FC Or can I do something with sender ISP and the IP address ? T Report spam to [EMAIL PROTECTED] including full header. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
achieving alphabetic order amongst folders
From David Robert Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] what a simple question . . but I can't get this myself, after trying numerous times over months. how do I periodically re- sort folders within folders so they always stay in alphabetic order? new folders always go the the bottom. yikes. i am sure the answer is very simple. david -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moderator's announcemt
GREAT idea. And may I suggest that each list's message footers mention both lists are available? Cheers, David Robert Austen MDP Greetings Bat Fans, MDP Following recent discussions on TBUDL, we have decided to create MDP a new discussion list for users of The Bat!. The new list is MDP called TBTECH and it has been created to allow more technical MDP discussions relating -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Spelling: Words that just need to be separated with a space
Greetings, Can anybody tell me why my Bat (new installation after crash) is now no longer identifying "runtogether" words and therefore not suggesting they simply be separated? I have looked for a command but see none. Thank you. David Robert Austen MSG Often if I want to send a new message to someone I've written to MSG previously, rather than use the address book, I find an old message to MSG them and use their address from that. MSG In Eudora, there was a Send Again function which allowed one to edit MSG the previous message so that one could change the content. MSG In TB, there is a Re-Send under the Message menu, but it automatically MSG does what it says (imagine that!) and just resends the message without MSG allowing me to change it. MSG Is there a way I haven't discovered yet in TB to edit an old message MSG and then resend it? MSG Mike Greenbaum MSG -- MSG JANUS BOOKS, LTD. MSG Post Office Box 40787 MSG Tucson, AZ 85717 MSG Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 MSG Fax: 815-333-2938 MSG Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover accepted. MSG Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Send Again
I highlight that blue highlighted (selected) message on the main screen and then do a "redirect." It is easy to delete the original text before writing more. All can be changed. David Robert Austen MSG Often if I want to send a new message to someone I've written to MSG previously, rather than use the address book, I find an old message to MSG them and use their address from that. MSG In Eudora, there was a Send Again function which allowed one to edit MSG the previous message so that one could change the content. MSG In TB, there is a Re-Send under the Message menu, but it automatically MSG does what it says (imagine that!) and just resends the message without MSG allowing me to change it. MSG Is there a way I haven't discovered yet in TB to edit an old message MSG and then resend it? MSG Mike Greenbaum MSG -- MSG JANUS BOOKS, LTD. MSG Post Office Box 40787 MSG Tucson, AZ 85717 MSG Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 MSG Fax: 815-333-2938 MSG Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover accepted. MSG Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Spelling: Words that just need to be separated with a space
Greetings, Can anybody tell me why my Bat (a new installation after a crash) is now no longer identifying "runtogether" words and therefore not suggesting they simply be separated as it did before? I have looked for a command but see none in the pulldowns. Thank you. David Robert Austen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Send Again (Error fixed)
I should have written: I *RIGHT-CLICK* that blue highlighted (selected) message on the main screen and then do a "redirect." It is easy to delete the original text before writing more. All *fields* can be changed. David Robert Austen MSG Often if I want to send a new message to someone I've written to MSG previously, rather than use the address book, I find an old message to MSG them and use their address from that. MSG In Eudora, there was a Send Again function which allowed one to edit MSG the previous message so that one could change the content. MSG In TB, there is a Re-Send under the Message menu, but it automatically MSG does what it says (imagine that!) and just resends the message without MSG allowing me to change it. MSG Is there a way I haven't discovered yet in TB to edit an old message MSG and then resend it? MSG Mike Greenbaum MSG -- MSG JANUS BOOKS, LTD. MSG Post Office Box 40787 MSG Tucson, AZ 85717 MSG Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 MSG Fax: 815-333-2938 MSG Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover accepted. MSG Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Spelling: Words that just need to be separated with a space
Oops. I forgot to snip. Dierk, we all make mistakes and now I'll go stand in the corner. That is what you call a senior moment. (I'm guessing you are not of my generation.) Anyway . . . do you know the answer to my question? I was asking for help and thought, well, that this would be safe and perhaps even a friendly place. . . David DH On Wednesday, October 25, 2000 at 8:14:17 PM you wrote: DH Ever heard of "snipping" or "cutting". You quoted a whole message that DH did not even remotely had anything to do with your message ;-). -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Spelling: Words that just need to be separated with a space
Thanks for clearing this up. Dierk, you can be on our bowling team again now. :-) David Best, david David Robert Austen MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MDP Hash: SHA1 MDP Hi David, MDP On 25 October 2000 at 16:24:09 GMT -0500 (which was 22:24 where I MDP live) David Robert Austen wrote and made these points on the subject MDP of "Spelling: Words that just need to be separated with a space": DRA Oops. I forgot to snip. MDP You didn't, actually. What Dierk was really griping about was that you MDP replied to an existing thread to start a new one and merely change the MDP subject and cut the original text to make it look like a new message. MDP The headers don't lie ;-). MDP Seriously, I've already written on this topic once already in the past MDP 24 hours. DRA Dierk, we all make mistakes and now I'll go stand in the corner. That DRA is what you call a senior moment. (I'm guessing you are not of my DRA generation.) MDP Dierk: Please leave the pointing out of errors and slips to "us MDP moderators" and try not to intimidate the newcomers. It can only end MDP in tears :-(. DRA Anyway . . . do you know the answer to my question? MDP Actually, I don't and I'm not certain that I have ever seen the option MDP you are "missing". It may be to do with the language pack or the CSAPI MDP interface. DRA I was asking for help and thought, well, that this would be safe and DRA perhaps even a friendly place. . . MDP You were - honest :-). The real problem with replying half way down an MDP old thread to create a new one is that you question *will* get MDP overlooked. MDP - -- MDP Cheers, MDP .\\arck MDP MDP [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] MDP [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] MDP [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] MDP Atheism is a non-prophet organization. MDP MDP TB! v1.47 Halloween Edition S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- MDP Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured MDP Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness MDP iQA/AwUBOfdVBTnkJKuSnc2gEQIaWACeJNDattVIbO7b1R6QVKucAC7aw6oAnRbX MDP 4c4aPM8HzGI6BlpQ0Qrhsfoi MDP =Pq8z MDP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: DRAFT
I first have to remove the hourglass symbol from the message, and then I can easily delete it. But I have a follow-up question. What is it that causes me to have messages in the Outbox that I know I have already send? That is pretty confusing. David Robert Austen RC Sir, RC How do I remove obsolete Draft messages from my Outbox. I cannot RC seem to "delete" them. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Kill Dupes - and what else possibly?
Hello, Marck, Thanks very much for this. Puts my mind at ease. David MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MDP Hash: SHA1 MDP Hi David, MDP On 13 October 2000 at 22:22:58 GMT -0500 (which was 04:22 where I MDP live) David Robert Austen wrote and made these points on the MDP subject of "Kill Dupes - and what else possibly?": -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Kill Dupes - and what else possibly?
Thank-you all: Januck, Marck, A. Curtis. David Austen JA Hello Marck, JA On Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 04:35:51 GMT +0100 (which was 8:35 PM JA where I live) witnesses say Marck D. Pearlstone typed: JA I just want to clarify one point: Your message, for instance, had the ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is JA^^ ^^ JARandom MMDDHHSS JANumber JA So the messageID is generated with a large random number then the time JA stamp from your computer to 1/100th of a second. I'm sure you can't JA send messages that quick to get duplicates. Plus with the random JA number, the chances are *very* slim. David Robert Austen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Kill Dupes - and what else possibly?
I am occasionally astounded to see the number of duplicate messages that are reported deleted when I order "Kill Dupes." Is there more going on here than I think? Are there situations e.g. where a like-named message is killed when it is in fact a different message within the same thread? For example, the same author may respond twice to the same thread. I think file size would be perhaps the most reliably meaningful and absolute measure of a difference. I guess the bottom line is this: what kind of comparison checking is done to ensure that only true dupes are killed? Can we modify this? Everybody out there feeling really confident in this default technique? Still feeling astounded, David Robert Austen -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Repairs successful after Bat nearly done in by disk defragmentation
Thank you again. Guess I'll keep defragging! :-) David -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Repairs successful after Bat nearly done in by disk defragmentation
Greetings, and thank you for this generous coaching. Your answer was logical, and most of it did not surprise me, but if I attempted that earlier it did not work. I was certainly flummoxed. I also did not know about the SHIFTCTRLALTL. BTW, Eudora made a nice back-up mail reader - set up so that messages were left on the server. That system "failure" has now gone away and I have now been able to get at most of my old data. Nice coincidence that I had backed up the entire hard disk just a few days earlier. Did the disk defrag (as possible cause) ring a bell with you? I have never had a bad result with it that I can remember, but I know others who resist doing it. Thank you again. David -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
