Re: Filtering on Date, Focus in Mailbox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 11:29:02 PM, Deborah wrote: JC 2. When I select a Mail Folder to see the messages in, what JC determines which message get the focus? It would be nice if the JC first unread message would get the focus. Usually it will be whichever message in the folder had the focus the last time you had that folder open. In some cases, such as after a Purge, the focus seems to go back to the first message on the list. Yes - usually. And that's great. However, I noticed that when I delete all messages from the folder, and then folder get filled again, focus goes to random message; not always first on the list. It's a bit irritating, I select folder, and then have to mark message unread, move to the first message, and then start reading messages normally. I haven't been able to figure out the rule which is applied when first entering a folder after all messages have been deleted. Deleting lots of messages at once seems to make things worse. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPzJNNbgeqlQz+rfkEQJKBgCeIm1a4B+LoH3qycUifN1CJecQtboAniio hG9kyUDq4PmlgV1O849XRfql =gnd9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems configuring Opera 7.11 to use The Bat as its emailclient.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, August 8, 2003, 5:33:13 PM, Tim wrote: I've just discovered The Bat and am impressed! I am currently using Opera 7.11 for browsing and email. I've tried to configure Opera to use The Bat as it's email client with no success... Tim, try this: Go to Preferences/E-mail in Opera. Check Use specific e-mail client Enter this line in the box: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe mailto: % Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPzPAzLgeqlQz+rfkEQJlnwCgoMhOQXFmEAjH9vQVEyzfu4Il6f8AnitY JOF4t77/m0FBHdvEx5Wvjv5g =RZyC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Secure POP3?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone use TB! for retrieving messages from server with POP3 and secure connection (STARTLS)? Both secure to regular and dedicated port end up with this: ===8===[ Begin paste ]= 31/07/2003, 13:44:18: FETCH - receiving mail messages !31/07/2003, 13:44:19: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: -ERR authorization first ===8[ End paste ]== On the same server, with same settings, secure connection works for IMAP. I've tried messing with authorization options, but it didn't help. Why is that log so brief, it doesn't even report connecting to server or anything (with IMAP it's full of information)? The Bat! 1.62r, Win2000. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPypnfLgeqlQz+rfkEQJiFACgwa45SuU0Mjk33Y6dUr4mh9h+AT8AnjSd vEkYDP4E0HQ5nP9PS4zAVO6d =X4gH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Don't sort.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, July 25, 2003, 9:06:55 AM, Roelof wrote: SH How do I /not/ sort? Sort on an item that's the same for all messages. If you don't park any messages and subsequently sort on 'parked' then you've got the messages in the database order. Or try the 'flagged' collumn. If you'd like to have the option to show messages in database order, you have to give up one of these possibilities. YES! It works! THANK YOU! TB! actually can display in database order! Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPyEGMLgeqlQz+rfkEQJ5iQCfdoQl+MuiTnbMeOfC/pVdGH3tgA4AnAnh tk+TA/S699YudI2lPSdDZ9bJ =K4t2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 12:42:58 PM, Allie wrote: DK Order in which messages are downloaded from server and stored in DK TB!s message database. That would be don't sort setting or DK sort by place in database. Simplest of all. It shouldn't be DK _that hard_ to implement, would it? :) This has always been what TB! does for me with received time. When downloading mail from the server, TB! will always download the mail the server received first, followed by the mail it received last. I therefore find it a lot more accurate to sort mail based on received time. You're right, I didn't think about that - and I tried sorting both by received and created time and somehow I finally settled for created time as being better, but I still got messages in wrong order. But TB! still lacks sort by database order feature which I often miss (sometimes I move messages around folders and really wish to see them sorted that way). Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPx5psLgeqlQz+rfkEQIZDACdF29v/42o435tiTeO1boKe9hNJxQAoLJs iGIwAyp7s+X+fxKzDi2e4xoS =fVKl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 2:43:47 PM, Marck wrote: But TB! still lacks sort by database order feature which I often miss (sometimes I move messages around folders and really wish to see them sorted that way). I am at a loss to understand the difference between Received order and Database order. Except that Database order would logically ignore received order when moving messages into a different folder.. Yes, that's it. Sometimes I really would like to be able to move message to another folder, and then switch to that folder and find that message on the bottom of the list, instead of having to search through thousands of messages to find it. Like when I accidentaly hit delete button and move message to Trash - digging it back from the Trash is frustrating experience. Oh, I think I get it. You're saying that TB should be able to move messages around within the message base? That's not going to be possible because of the sequential structure and scale of the tbb files. The programmers have traded that flexibility for speed and capacity. I'm happy for it to stay that way. No, your first guess was right - I like the database design too. But I would like to see the actual order of messages in database. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPx6s/rgeqlQz+rfkEQIXfACeIYCsEJKMI4Dz4Ebdhaep3BOiw1YAoNcj fXU1c86YRJtVSMxldqtA7dGz =yc+f -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 2:21:25 PM, Allie wrote: DK I tried sorting both by received and created time and DK somehow I finally settled for created time as being better, but I DK still got messages in wrong order. I neglected to comment on this part. Sorting by received time will mess you up when a message takes a long time to reach your POP server. So, if you're taking part in a discussion, like on TBUDL, it's not unusual for a response to reach your POP server before the original message. Furthermore, using the POP server received time will not help with such a situation, since the POP server received time will reflect the delay in receipt of the mail. Yes, I think that was the reason I switched back to created time for sorting messages. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPx6tW7geqlQz+rfkEQIFzQCgzYMCc8qrOyClio3B2oTpF9bGKiUAoLbR FYfTyc7DOeeJ4oB+BoxHZxyO =RcCk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, 11:31:25 PM, Ricardo wrote: DK This pisses me off with TB too. In all mail clients before TB, I DK sorted my mail by time of arrival - time of arrival on server. If I DK sort in any other way, by time created or by time received, I always DK seem to read replies to messages before messages themselves. I think that what you are asking for is simply impossible :) The Bat is a POP3 mail client (IMAP access is secondary, and incomplete). The POP3 servers don't give to the client any kind of indication of the time of arrival of the message. So there's simply no way that The Bat! (or any other pop3 client) can show you that time. Order in which messages are downloaded from server and stored in TB!s message database. That would be don't sort setting or sort by place in database. Simplest of all. It shouldn't be _that hard_ to implement, would it? :) Additionaly, you _can_ see when message arrived on server. Here's cutpaste from received headers and dates from your messages (as it arrived to me): ===8== Received: (qmail 3571 invoked by uid 109); 22 Jul 2003 23:10:11 - Received: from gundel.de.clara.net (212.82.225.86) by server1.ouroboros.hr with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 23:10:11 - Received: from stromgrade.its-toasted.org ([62.80.28.28] helo=draenor.its-toasted.org) by gundel.de.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19f6JE-0002K0-QL; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:12:40 +0200 Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com ([192.108.102.143]) by draenor.its-toasted.org with esmtp (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19f6GL-0005Xg-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:09:42 +0200 Received: from 200.70.113.235 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [200.70.113.235] by smtp-send.myrealbox.com with NetMail SMTP Agent $Revision: 3.35 $ on Novell NetWare; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:07:53 -0600 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:31:25 -0300 ===8== Look at first and second received line - server1.ouroboros.hr is my mail server. I'm not an expert, but isn't 23:10:11 time when my server received your message? Simply looking at the date and time of first received line in message should do it. You say that you have seen this functionality in all mail clients before TB. May I ask wich one?. I really don't think that can be right. Eudora. By default, messages are not sorted (or, they're sorted as placed in database) - and then eventually you can sort them by time. I don't know which time (received?) but I don't remember any problems with sorting messages in Eudora. In TB! I'm never quite sure. And when I accidentaly delete message, it's a pain to find it again - in Eudora, I simply switched to Trash and checked the message at the bottom of the list. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPx3fN7geqlQz+rfkEQKkawCfZ/BnEUDLmAxgxwPEciiOj1IXoeAAn3Gf O0SLR0midziUulBkZ5fMPEnP =7N8B -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, July 21, 2003, 2:36:38 PM, Thomas wrote: And the Created time is just the time of the sender's computer when he/she sends out the email. Your POP server should receive the mail just a few minutes after the Created time. So you could all agree to use the Created time as your cut-off time. Nope. Created time is time when user wrote the message - user doesn't have to send that message until hours after created time, and therefore your server won't receive the message for hours after created time. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPxwoirgeqlQz+rfkEQIBwQCgyd9LPKGFTrR3Dgzm5OajLneFf/kAn1Bu ccc04lJVxQaMt/qUvYORSoFX =aE6d -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, July 21, 2003, 9:16:40 AM, Joe wrote: Unfortunately, TB doesn't support this feature. TB won't show the time when the email arrives at the POP3 server. There are two types of time listed in TB, Received and Created. Personally, I don't think that Received time is necessary since it just indicates the time when you download the emails from your POP3 server, thus, it only depends on your frequency of fetching emails from server. And the Created time is just the time of the sender's computer when he/she sends out the email. This pisses me off with TB too. In all mail clients before TB, I sorted my mail by time of arrival - time of arrival on server. If I sort in any other way, by time created or by time received, I always seem to read replies to messages before messages themselves. TB seems to be the only e-mail reader which can't display messages the way they're received on the server... which is the same as downloaded from the server... which is the same as written to TB message base. P.S. No, I don't want to sort by threads. I also can't fetch mail every minute since I'm on dial-up... Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPxwoA7geqlQz+rfkEQJurQCcCXaAs///1NKKNvmdQcFHIOJThHMAoLDg u/4/5tm3M2Lj8VnIh/VfUAf3 =ziZI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memo data missing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, June 26, 2003, 8:15:16 PM, Peter wrote: I'm using a batch file that Allie Martin wrote, saving the complete TB! directory to a RAR archive. It is much easier to use than the Isn't the MAIL directory enough? Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPvs7GrgeqlQz+rfkEQI8iwCeIv6ujZRsMMR6pHyCwNVbsaXJ4VgAnjgF 781xCLxNreD7zb1a9eQ6F9BQ =VoG4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, June 20, 2003, 4:27:55 PM, Leif wrote: moderator Please include a -- that's dashdashspace right below your name. This will allow TB to automatically cut off your PGP sig and everything else below the -- when someone replies to you. So it's clear, this is what it should look like in your template: Domchi -- Don't forget the trailing space. If you don't put it in there, it won't work. If you need to see what I mean, when you reply to this message, the below (my name and TB info) will be missing from your reply. /moderator Actually, it wouldn't work. When I sign message which has -- , PGP changes this to - --, which TB doesn't recognize as sig delimiter. AFAIK, there is no way to prevent PGP doing this (although I don't know why it's neccessary). That's why I have a bit modified clean quote template from TB library, which strips PGP signature, as well as anything after - --. I don't see the point in using - --, which TB doesn't understand, when PGP signature is standard and more known sig delimiter than - -- (and TB doesn't recognize any of them). Domchi - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPvXZmLgeqlQz+rfkEQKUVgCgnaonNS2FYx1g49qT7QwFcXjfmDAAmwf1 6/CgK2J3felWQJsgrVlClTVh =tWSh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorting messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would like messages in certain folders (Trash, for example) sorted in the way they are in the database - in order I delete them, from oldest to newest. I can't find the way to do that. I usually delete the message, and want to read it again immidiately after since I remembered something - but I can't simply go to Trash and view the message, I must search for it, since it gets lost in the last 100 mails I received since then. View previously read message doesn't work when message is moved between folders. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPvLom7geqlQz+rfkEQIf1gCffidJlyvkKC7qoh2WGzNYyam5lvcAn1Xi 06xeBIZ1AsY1lE404GyH/htg =yWPw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, June 16, 2003, 10:33:50 AM, Stuart wrote: AM This is more than signature destruction. I see no signatures at AM all or any evidence of there ever being one. :/ I'm pretty sure that this is a bug. If I create a message in a common folder and the template changes the active account, then only some of the settings for that account at applied; the 'Sign on Complete' not being one of them. Don't know if it is a bug or a feature :))), but I have the same setup and I just checked. If your default mailto account has Sign on complete enabled, messages which are sent from common folders will have signature, wheather you change the account via template or not. Also, if your default mailto account has Sign on complete disabled, messages won't get automatically signed from common folders. I have account properties/general/this account is default for mailto links enabled, and signing from common folders works. :) So you can either enable signing for default mailto account, or use %SIGNCOMPLETE in template which you use to change account. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPu2oQLgeqlQz+rfkEQKIMACfagVuTrEP7ql1LRGBiiyfnuuUAZ0An25w nuG0xeC3WbhewXtXeyPg1TIS =sczK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, 12:07:25 PM, Allie wrote: DK Hm. Just tried it, and no, it seems that attachment is stored DK with original message. If I delete all the attachments from DK attachment directory, messages still keep the attachments - both DK the ones I received and the ones I sent. Are you using filters to extract the attachments, or are you using the account properties/option to 'store attachments in a separate directory'. No. I only use sorting office to make two copies of each message I receive. DK Do you have delete attachments when message is deleted from DK Trash turned off? Yes. I give up. Turning on that option pretty much solves the problem I've been having, but I don't know how. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPt6FJ7geqlQz+rfkEQKLsgCfVMOzatHNjyM0W9EGE1NXbPYEuK0AoN5M wqvXDq1E79Vqv9gABVz+tP1C =qNnE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm trying to understand how TB handles the attachments. I have TB set to keep attachments in separate directory. However, even if I delete the file from that directory, it seems that it keeps the attachment in body of the message that was sent to me and which I archived. Why? Is it the same with the attachments/messages I sent and archived to another folder? When I delete the file in attachments directory, while the message is in outbox, attachment is eventually deleted and not sent. Also, if I don't have Delete messages when emptied from the Trash turned on, if I attach the file, and write a message, it seems that TB saves a new copy of that file every 20 seconds in my case - or, on every auto-save of that message. That sometimes produces huge amount of unnecessary files in attachment directory. Is that a feature or a bug? What is Bind attachments only when sending out mail? How does that affect the above? Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPtyZ4LgeqlQz+rfkEQJKUQCg5hh8KBa0jb8sfmO3renblssXGx8An2Ab 6WF9BR73AK5DdD4nnbM9fKUZ =Fx6U -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, 2:55:15 AM, Allie wrote: DK I have TB set to keep attachments in separate directory. However, DK even if I delete the file from that directory, it seems that it DK keeps the attachment in body of the message that was sent to me DK and which I archived. Why? I haven't kept attachments in a separate directory for a long time. However, from my experimentation, if you delete an attachment from it's corresponding 'Attach' directory, the attachment will seem to be still associated with the message until you select another message and then go back to the original. The attachment pane should no longer be there displaying an attachment. Hm. Just tried it, and no, it seems that attachment is stored with original message. If I delete all the attachments from attachment directory, messages still keep the attachments - both the ones I received and the ones I sent. Those I didn't send yet lose attachments if I clear the attachment directory. Only way to delete attachment in message is to select attachment in TB, right-click, and choose delete. DK Also, if I don't have Delete messages when emptied from the DK Trash turned on, if I attach the file, and write a message, it DK seems that TB saves a new copy of that file every 20 seconds in DK my case - or, on every auto-save of that message. That sometimes DK produces huge amount of unnecessary files in attachment DK directory. Is that a feature or a bug? I'm not really following you here so I can't try to reproduce what you say is happening. Be that as it may, it sounds like buggy behaviour to me. I did the following: I configured my editor to auto-save every 20 seconds. I configured an account to place attachments in a separated directory and the bind attachments only while sending mail is not enabled. I then created a new message and attached a file to it. Only one copy of the attachment is saved though at times the file name will change to file1.xxx and back to file.xxx between auto-saves. Still only one copy of the attachment remains when I save the message to the outbox. Upon sending the message to the trash, the attachment remains in the attachment directory. Upon deleting the message from the trash, the attachment is deleted from the attachment folder. Do you have delete attachments when message is deleted from Trash turned off? If it's on, I get your results too. I've just tried again, and this time I didn't get new copy of attachment on auto-save, but every time I put the message in outbox. Interesting. I tried this with v1.62r Me too. DK What is Bind attachments only when sending out mail? How does DK that affect the above? You can use this option if you wish the latest version of the file to be attached for delivery with the message. However, without this option, the file is immediately bound to the message and you can alter the original without the altered copy being sent. Aha. Thanks for explanation. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPt1hx7geqlQz+rfkEQJbvgCeLQ0CvuY9IjfWGLsMDXdOy4QzC6EAniQc 9nhvlfz/t9nGma+hYSfkFm/v =0Mmz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html