corrupted message base
Bats- It happened again. I got an error message from The Bat! announcing that one of my folders had a corrupted message base. I quickly made a backup of the .TBB file and then clicked OK on the message box. The number of messages in that folder went down from 616 to 281. I tried rebuilding the index, but no luck. I then tried importing from the saved copy of the message base, but again no luck. Browsing the deleted files didn't do it either. My only possible clue is that I changed the option settings about a month ago to save attachments in a separate folder instead of inline. Looking into the saved message base file I see that there are still inline attachments from before that time. Could this be a source of problems? And if so, is there anything I can do about it to prevent this from happening to other folders? There doesn't seem to be an option to save existing attachments into a separate folder...I know I can save the attachments myself and then delete them from the emails, but that won't associate them anymore. And there's no obvious indication of whether an attachment is stored inline or externally without digging through the message base with a hex editor. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: corrupted message base
Hello Mark, On Wed, 29 May 2002 09:10:32 -0700GMT (29-5-02, 18:10 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: MW It happened again. I got an error message from The Bat! announcing MW that one of my folders had a corrupted message base. Weird, never happened to me. How often do you compress your folders? MW I quickly made a backup of the .TBB file and then clicked OK on MW the message box. The number of messages in that folder went down MW from 616 to 281. That's not much, TB should be able to handle lots more. I've got several folders with thousands of messages. When did you run scandisk for the last time on the disk or defragged it. Is your system otherwise instable? Virusscanner? MW My only possible clue is that I changed the option settings about a MW month ago to save attachments in a separate folder instead of inline. MW Looking into the saved message base file I see that there are still MW inline attachments from before that time. Could this be a source of MW problems? Would surprise me. MW And if so, is there anything I can do about it to prevent this MW from happening to other folders? I'm not sure. What about a filter that extracts the attachments? Don't know whether that keeps the association with the messages intact. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: corrupted message base
Wednesday, May 29, 2002, 10:19:19 AM, you wrote: RO Weird, never happened to me. How often do you compress your folders? Well, not too often on most of them. I've got the inboxes and trash folders set to compress on exit. RO That's not much, TB should be able to handle lots more. I've got RO several folders with thousands of messages. Thousands of messages would scare me to death. I try to keep mine down to a manageable size. With the inline attachments the message base was 17MB in size. That doesn't seem unreasonable, but it's big in relation to the number of messages. RO When did you run scandisk for the last time on the disk or defragged RO it. Is your system otherwise instable? Virusscanner? When I made the last changes to the options it was because I was moving to a new win2k server, to the whole machine is only about a month old. I hate to admit this about a Windows system, but it's been very stable. It gets a clean bill of health and I've run TB for a few years now with no problems. RO I'm not sure. What about a filter that extracts the attachments? Don't RO know whether that keeps the association with the messages intact. I don't have a problem with extracting the attachments and deleting them from the original messages. I just don't see that there's a way to get them out of the message base file and still keep that association. I may have to resort to mailing them to myself and deleting the original. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Corrupted Message Base
I'm writing from my Yahoo account since I can't get into The Bat program to write from there. :-( Anyways it appears my message database is corrupted somehow. When I open The Bat, it tells me such and such file is corrupted (whichever folder it happens to be in when the program is opened) and asks if it should be repaired. I tell it yes, to repair it, but it doesn't seem to be working, only locks up the program (not responding). Any suggestions? I've tried re-installing over the program, but that doesn't work. I haven't uninstalled/re-installed yet because I don't want to lose my messages! Help! Thanks! Jana Wright __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Corrupted Message Base
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 09:01:18 -0700 (PDT), Jana wrote these comments: ... JW Anyways it appears my message database is corrupted somehow. When JW I open The Bat, it tells me such and such file is corrupted (whichever JW folder it happens to be in when the program is opened) and asks if it JW should be repaired. I tell it yes, to repair it, but it doesn't seem JW to be working, only locks up the program (not responding). JW Any suggestions? I've tried re-installing over the program, but that JW doesn't work. I haven't uninstalled/re-installed yet because I don't JW want to lose my messages! Do you know where your mail folders are. If they're in the default location, look in the TB! installation directory in the Mail subdirectory. Each account has it's own folder with each folder in the account being represented by its own explorer folder. Open the folder that's causing the error (i.e., the folder that TB! is opening upon startup) and move the messages.tbb and messages.tbi files to another location. TB! should now restart but the folder with the corrupted message base will be empty. As to recovering the message base if TB! cannot repair it then you're in trouble. I can't stress too much the importance of backing up your mail in case of these eventualities. What version of TB! are you running? Be sure that you're the latest version because, IRC, there were problems with repairing message bases in earlier versions. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53d) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - '==/==/==/==Police tagline==/==/==Do not cross ==/==/==/==' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com iEYEARECAAYFAjtF90kACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IVYgCgvRO+dAYxB011pxTWQcjfYTEk kgUAoMhp5Swtl3yBwqLgHGIbJIeta2Yg =iIZY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Corrupted message base?
Hello Michael Heydekamp, Responding to your article on Friday, April 21, 2000 at 20:30:08 GMT +0200 (which was 24/04/2000 1:30 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : MH Could not create a new index of message base MH The same happens when I invoke "Compress all folders" from the MH Folder menu. When I try to delete the most recent message that MH arrived in this folder, TB! hangs. S Could it be that you don't have enough disk space on TB's partition? MH Unlikely, 'cause the msg base is on the Novell server. MH Apart from that, the problem appears - as I said - only with this MH one specific folder (the Inbox of the second account). No problem MH with all the other folders which are sitting on the very same Novell MH server (and even below the same subdir structure). I put all of my folder (primary account) on Netware 4.11 drive (Long Name Space support), and it happen only once here, i.e. when I got electricity spike, so my PC rebooting (no problem with my server, due the UPS buffer it). The symptom exactly same as yours, but after I delete *.tbi on the corrupted folder, everything going fine. TB! reindexing. Have you check from Netware, using Vrepair utility ? -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/19 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Monday, April 24, 2000, 19:31:24 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Corrupted message base?
Hello Marck, on Thu, 20 Apr 2000, at 18:09:06 sender's local time (timezone UTC+0100), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: Stefan (Tanurkov) and Max (Masyutin): should you be reading this please advise if you wanna have the message base of this folder for bug fixing purposes - it's not very big (65,041 bytes zipped). MDP Perhaps (this being a bug in the Beta) you should post this to MDP TBBETA. Also, I'm not sure if Stefan and Max read TBUDL but I MDP *know* they read TBBETA avidly - especially during a major beta MDP cycle such as we are currently in with 1.42. I cc'd Stefan with my posting to TBUDL and he replied already and asked for the file. But, as already stated elsewhere, in the end it turned out to be a temporary problem with NetWare (the Msg base files had some sort of lock that they shouldn't have had). Thus it's not a TB! issue. Stefan has already been informed accordingly. Best regards, -- Michael Heydekamp AIR TRAFFIC Euro Charter GmbH eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.airtraffic.de *-* Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/17 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a PIII/450, 128MB RAM, 10GB Harddisk in a NetWare 3.12 network environment *-* -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Corrupted message base?
Hi Michael, On 20 April 2000 at 18:24:39 GMT +0200 (which was 17:24 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Corrupted message base?": Stefan (Tanurkov) and Max (Masyutin): should you be reading this please advise if you wanna have the message base of this folder for bug fixing purposes - it's not very big (65,041 bytes zipped). Perhaps (this being a bug in the Beta) you should post this to TBBETA. Also, I'm not sure if Stefan and Max read TBUDL but I *know* they read TBBETA avidly - especially during a major beta cycle such as we are currently in with 1.42. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/18 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Corrupted message base?
Hello The Bat! users, Michael Heydekamp wrote at 4/20/2000, 6:24 PM MH Could not create a new index of message base MH The same happens when I invoke "Compress all folders" from the Folder MH menu. When I try to delete the most recent message that arrived in this MH folder, TB! hangs. Could it be that you don't have enough disk space on TB's partition? -- Just my 2 cents: SyP For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. (H. L. Mencken) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Corrupted message base?
Hi there! On 20 Apr 00, at 18:24, Michael Heydekamp wrote about "Corrupted message base?": When I shut down TB! it compresses all folders. When it comes to the Inbox of the second account, for 35 secs. I see a message box "Compressing folder Inbox" and then get another message box saying: Could not create a new index of message base Try deleting the *.tbi file of the corrupted folder. On restart TB will reindex the folder. Be aware, that all the messages that were deleted from the folder, but not purged physically on compress, will reappear. -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: An optimist believes that we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears that this is true. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Corrupted message base?
Hello SyP, on Thu, 20 Apr 2000, at 19:13:52 sender's local time (timezone UTC+0200), SyP wrote: MH Could not create a new index of message base MH The same happens when I invoke "Compress all folders" from the MH Folder menu. When I try to delete the most recent message that MH arrived in this folder, TB! hangs. S Could it be that you don't have enough disk space on TB's partition? Unlikely, 'cause the msg base is on the Novell server. Apart from that, the problem appears - as I said - only with this one specific folder (the Inbox of the second account). No problem with all the other folders which are sitting on the very same Novell server (and even below the same subdir structure). Best regards, -- Michael Heydekamp AIR TRAFFIC Euro Charter GmbH eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.airtraffic.de *-* Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/17 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a PIII/450, 128MB RAM, 10GB Harddisk in a NetWare 3.12 network environment *-* -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Corrupted message base?
Hello Alexander, on Thu, 20 Apr 2000, at 22:01:09 sender's local time (timezone UTC+0400), Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: When I shut down TB! it compresses all folders. When it comes to the Inbox of the second account, for 35 secs. I see a message box "Compressing folder Inbox" and then get another message box saying: Could not create a new index of message base AVK Try deleting the *.tbi file of the corrupted folder. On restart TB AVK will reindex the folder. Be aware, that all the messages that were AVK deleted from the folder, but not purged physically on compress, AVK will reappear. Thanks for the hint. Not that deleting the file did help, but it was not even possible to delete it (Win98 complained something about "write protected"). That rang a bell - obviously due to some reason Novell was confused and thought (and passed the wrong information to the client OS) that there is an exclusive lock or something like that on the file. That happens from time to time. A logout and relogin solved the "problem". TB! is relieved. :-) Best regards, -- Michael Heydekamp AIR TRAFFIC Euro Charter GmbH eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.airtraffic.de *-* Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/17 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a PIII/450, 128MB RAM, 10GB Harddisk in a NetWare 3.12 network environment *-* -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
