Re: How to copy a template

2011-03-24 Thread David
> Dear David,
>
> Please try to interleave your responses and trim to context as I have done:
>
Seems whatever way I post it is always wrong.

> @24-Mar-2011, 07:27  David [D] in
> mid:201132472749.470413@sd-e657e995c056 said:
>
> D>>> I am going to the template I wish to copy and make the Handle D>>> and 
> Name the same without
> spaces
>
>>> The name is irrelevant to anyone and anything but you and your visual 
>>> comfort. How you would
>>> like to see the template listed in the QT list. You can have spaces in the 
>>> name with no
>>> problem.
>>>
>
>>> The Handle is the technical bit that is referenced in the %QUINCLUDE macro.
>>>
>
> I was trying to point out here that a handle is best without spaces.
I asked about that and you said it made no difference

>
> D>>> At the top of this template I place %qinclude "MyTemplate"
>
> As others have said you can put %qinclude="MyTemplate" or 
> %qinclude("MyTemplate") but NOT
> %qinclude "MyTemplate".
>
Now the reason for that was it was that way in an earlier post from you as below


> Now go back to the original template. If your Quick Template was
> (for example) labelled with a tag of "MyQT1" then replace the
> entire template with a single line that reads:
>
> %qinclude "MyQT1"
>
> In this way, you can set up as many templates or bits of templates
> as you wish and pull them into a real template with the %qinclude
> macro.
~~

Ok - no worries about that. Now that I have corrected it, it works. And thanks 
to those who also 
pointed it out.

As an addendum, there is no need to copy the text across first since it is all 
copied with the 
macro, you do however need to set the new template to hmtl to get the structure 
of the table across 
and everything in the right place.

I have found that playing around with these templates that The Bat has crashed 
5 or more times over 
the last couple of days - is this usual.

Thanks Marck for your patience in sticking with this.

Regards

David
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Re: How to copy a template

2011-03-24 Thread Marck Pearlstone
Dear David,

Please try to interleave your responses and trim to context as I
have done:

@24-Mar-2011, 07:27  David [D] in
mid:201132472749.470413@sd-e657e995c056 said:

D>>> I am going to the template I wish to copy and make the Handle
D>>> and Name the same without spaces

>> The name is irrelevant to anyone and anything but you and your
>> visual comfort. How you would like to see the template listed in
>> the QT list. You can have spaces in the name with no problem.

>> The Handle is the technical bit that is referenced in the
>> %QUINCLUDE macro.

I was trying to point out here that a handle is best without
spaces.

D>>> At the top of this template I place %qinclude "MyTemplate"

As others have said you can put %qinclude="MyTemplate" or
%qinclude("MyTemplate") but NOT %qinclude "MyTemplate".

>> You have to put the %qinclude call at the top of the Reply
>> template or address book entry template or account new message
>> template or (shudder) the folder template.

This is the important bit!!

>> Well, I'm lost now. I don't know where the template you started
>> with came from or where the final macro call ended up.

... 

D> Now if I select the whole template only the text in the cells is selected.

Okay, so it's an HTML formatted template. That would be more
complicated to copy into a quick template. Where is it? What is it a
template for??? New Message? Reply? Account or Address book? Please
answer these questions inline so we have a context and point of
reference for any replies you make.

D> Now select a new QT and the text is put in unformatted left aligned.

So - perhaps you can't just copy and paste an HTML template. I don't
know. I don't use HTML in email.

D> Now where does the %qinclude "My Template" go?

That's %qinclude="My Template" - and you should take out the space.

One of 2 places in a proper template (Account, Address book or
Folder ... New Message, Reply or Forward) or while you're editing a
new message, reply or forward, when you can type a QT handle and
press Ctrl+Space to invoke the template in real time, which you
can't do if the handle has a space in it!

D> If I put it in the original

Where is the original, David? You still didn't tell us.

... 
D> But similarly if I put it in the template I am creating it just
D> shows Cannot find a quick template "" "My Template" , but the
D> text is not formatted nor is the table created.

Bill explained this one quite well.

... 
D> -- -

try:


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Re: How to copy a template

2011-03-24 Thread Bill McQuillan

On Thu, 2011-03-24, David wrote:

> But similarly if I put it in the template I am creating it just shows
> Cannot find a quick template "" "My Template" ,
> but the text is not formatted nor is the table created.

> If I create a new QT and just put in %qinclude "My Template"  the same 
> happens.

> I think I am putting in the %qinclude "My Template" in the wrong place but 
> have run out of options.

I am not sure what your other problems are, but I think that one step toward a 
fix is to use "=" in the include phrase:

  %qinclude="My Template"

I believe that using a blank makes it:

  %qinclude (which produces 'Cannot find a quick template ""')

followed by:

  "My Template"  (as just text)



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Re: How to copy a template

2011-03-24 Thread David
>
> @22-Mar-2011, 20:28  David [D] in
> mid:2011322202843.289552@sd-e657e995c056 said:
>
>>> Open the Quick Templates interface. Create a new Quick Template and paste 
>>> your copied
>>> template into the body. Create another new Quick Template for as many 
>>> variations as you want
>>> to have.
>>>
>
> ... 
> D> Thanks for that but I am losing you somewhere because I cannot D> get it 
> to work.
>
> Okay - let's see if we can interact and get this going for you.
>
> D> I am going to the template I wish to copy and make the Handle and D> Name 
> the same without
> spaces (tried making them slightly D> different to no avail).
>
> The name is irrelevant to anyone and anything but you and your visual 
> comfort. How you would like
> to see the template listed in the QT list. You can have spaces in the name 
> with no problem.
>
> The Handle is the technical bit that is referenced in the %QUINCLUDE macro. 
> There's certainly no
> need to make the name and handle the same or even similar.
>
> D> Doing ctrl A (I assume that is what you mean by highlight). Then D> ctrl C 
> to copy.
>
> Yes - that is good. Or marking with the mouse. But Ctrl+A works. And you're 
> doing this for which
> template? This should be the account template you want to copy, yes?
>
> D> Start a new quick template and pasting the content (ctrl V).
>
> You pasted this into the main body area of the template, right? The larger 
> box just under the
> menu and above the Name and Handle text boxes etc.
>
> D> At the top of this template I place %qinclude "MyTemplate"
>
> Wait. The top of which template? Not the quick template. That would make a 
> self-referential loop.
> You have to put the %qinclude call at the top of the Reply template or 
> address book entry
> template or account new message template or (shudder) the folder template.
>
> D> Go to Preview and I get the text unformatted and at the top I get
>
> D> Cannot find a quick template "" "MyTemplate"
>
> Well, I'm lost now. I don't know where the template you started with came 
> from or where the final
> macro call ended up.
>
> D> where am I going wrong please.
>
> Not entirely sure, I confess. Let me try by showing you what I use. My 
> Account default new
> message template looks like this:
> ___ 
> %qinclude(BizNew)%-
> »»» The 
> BizNew Common QT

(named
> "Biz New message") looks like this:
> ___ Dear
%qinclude(ABTO),
> %qinclude(PrvPG)%- %qinclude(PrvPM)%- %Cursor
> -- < I've edited this so it doesn't introduce a cut mark here 
> %qinclude(%ABTOPhone(Soft))
> %qinclude(XSig)
> »»»
>
> D> -- -
>
> Hmm - not quite with the cut mark! But nearly. See mine below? It's just:
>  but, of course, it's in a template. ;)

Thanks Marck

I have read and re-read your instructions but somewhere I am missing something. 
I'll try and explain

what I am doing again.

I have constructed a template and called it "My Template" in the handle. The 
actual template
consists of a table with various pieces of text & logo put into the various 
cells. One cell only
(this is a cell within cell) is used for the message body.

Now if I select the whole template only the text in the cells is selected.

Now select a new QT and the text is put in unformatted left aligned.

Now where does the %qinclude "My Template" go?
If I put it in the original it just appears as text saying it cannot be found. 
This is putting at
the top of the main body of text and it would just refer to itself.

But similarly if I put it in the template I am creating it just shows
Cannot find a quick template "" "My Template" ,
but the text is not formatted nor is the table created.

If I create a new QT and just put in %qinclude "My Template"  the same happens.

I think I am putting in the %qinclude "My Template" in the wrong place but have 
run out of options.

Any more guidance please?

Regards

David
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Re: How to copy a template

2011-03-22 Thread Marck Pearlstone
Dear David,

@22-Mar-2011, 20:28  David [D] in
mid:2011322202843.289552@sd-e657e995c056 said:

>> Open the Quick Templates interface. Create a new Quick Template
>> and paste your copied template into the body. Create another new
>> Quick Template for as many variations as you want to have.

... 
D> Thanks for that but I am losing you somewhere because I cannot
D> get it to work.

Okay - let's see if we can interact and get this going for you.

D> I am going to the template I wish to copy and make the Handle and
D> Name the same without spaces (tried making them slightly
D> different to no avail).

The name is irrelevant to anyone and anything but you and your
visual comfort. How you would like to see the template listed in the
QT list. You can have spaces in the name with no problem.

The Handle is the technical bit that is referenced in the %QUINCLUDE
macro. There's certainly no need to make the name and handle the
same or even similar.

D> Doing ctrl A (I assume that is what you mean by highlight). Then
D> ctrl C to copy.

Yes - that is good. Or marking with the mouse. But Ctrl+A works. And
you're doing this for which template? This should be the account
template you want to copy, yes?

D> Start a new quick template and pasting the content (ctrl V).

You pasted this into the main body area of the template, right? The
larger box just under the menu and above the Name and Handle text
boxes etc.

D> At the top of this template I place %qinclude "MyTemplate"

Wait. The top of which template? Not the quick template. That would
make a self-referential loop. You have to put the %qinclude call at
the top of the Reply template or address book entry template or
account new message template or (shudder) the folder template.

D> Go to Preview and I get the text unformatted and at the top I get

D> Cannot find a quick template "" "MyTemplate"

Well, I'm lost now. I don't know where the template you started with
came from or where the final macro call ended up.

D> where am I going wrong please.

Not entirely sure, I confess. Let me try by showing you what I use.
My Account default new message template looks like this:
___
%qinclude(BizNew)%-
¯¯¯
The BizNew Common QT (named "Biz New message") looks like this:
___
Dear %qinclude(ABTO),
%qinclude(PrvPG)%-
%qinclude(PrvPM)%-
%Cursor
--  < I've edited this so it doesn't introduce a cut mark here
%qinclude(%ABTOPhone(Soft))
%qinclude(XSig)
¯¯¯

D> -- -

Hmm - not quite with the cut mark! But nearly. See mine below? It's
just:

but, of course, it's in a template. ;)

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Re: How to copy a template

2011-03-22 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Tuesday 22 March 2011 at 8:28:43 PM, in
, David wrote:

> At the top of this template I place 
> %qinclude "MyTemplate" 


Shouldn't that be %qinclude="MyTemplate"?

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Re: How to copy a template

2011-03-22 Thread David
>
> Here's the optimal way to use multiple template configurations in TB. Quick 
> Templates.
>
> Use highlight the template content that you want to keep and press Ctrl-C to 
> copy it to the
> clipboard.
>
> Open the Quick Templates interface. Create a new Quick Template and paste 
> your copied template
> into the body. Create another new Quick Template for as many variations as 
> you want to have.
>
> Now go back to the original template. If your Quick Template was (for 
> example) labelled with a
> tag of "MyQT1" then replace the entire template with a single line that reads:
>
> %qinclude "MyQT1"
>
> In this way, you can set up as many templates or bits of templates as you 
> wish and pull them into
> a real template with the %qinclude macro.
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Thanks for that but I am losing you somewhere because I cannot get it to work.

I am going to the template I wish to copy and make the Handle and Name the same 
without spaces 
(tried making them slightly different to no avail). Doing ctrl A (I assume that 
is what you mean by 
highlight). Then ctrl C to copy. 

Start a new quick template and pasting the content (ctrl V). At the top of this 
template I place 
%qinclude "MyTemplate"
Go to Preview and I get the text unformatted and at the top I get

Cannot find a quick template "" "MyTemplate"

where am I going wrong please.

Regards David

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Re: How to copy a template

2011-03-22 Thread Marck Pearlstone
Dear David,

@21-Mar-2011, 22:17  David [D] in
mid:2011321221734.543474@sd-e657e995c056 said:

D> I have successfully made up a template but now I want modify it
D> whilst keeping the original. I have searched through but cannot
D> find anyway of doing it.

Here's the optimal way to use multiple template configurations in
TB. Quick Templates.

Use highlight the template content that you want to keep and press
Ctrl-C to copy it to the clipboard.

Open the Quick Templates interface. Create a new Quick Template and
paste your copied template into the body. Create another new Quick
Template for as many variations as you want to have.

Now go back to the original template. If your Quick Template was
(for example) labelled with a tag of "MyQT1" then replace the
entire template with a single line that reads:

%qinclude "MyQT1"

In this way, you can set up as many templates or bits of templates
as you wish and pull them into a real template with the %qinclude
macro.

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Re: How to copy a template

2011-03-22 Thread David

>
> D> 
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>
> Suggest a simple way:
>
> Click inside the template contents
>
> Control-A to select all the content
>
> Control-C to Copy
>
> Then open any editor or word processor (Notepad, Wordpad, Word or other) and 
> Control-V to paste
> the content in it.
>
> Save this file for when you need to copy it back into the template.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
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>
>
> Paul
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Thanks for the reply.

Unfortunately I cannot get that to work. It just copies the text across but 
none of the formatting.

Regards

David


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Re: How to copy a template

2011-03-21 Thread Paul Berger
Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 8:17:34 AM, you wrote:

D> Hallo 


D> I am still playing and struggling with The Bat.


D> I have successfully made up a template but now I want modify it
D> whilst keeping the original. I have 
D> searched through but cannot find anyway of doing it.


D> Any help appreciated.

D>  Regards,

D>  David 







D> 
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Suggest a simple way:

Click inside the template contents

Control-A to select all the content

Control-C to Copy

Then open any editor or word processor (Notepad, Wordpad, Word or
other) and Control-V to paste the content in it.

Save this file for when you need to copy it back into the template.

Good luck.


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How to copy a template

2011-03-21 Thread David
Hallo 


I am still playing and struggling with The Bat.


I have successfully made up a template but now I want modify it whilst keeping 
the original. I have 
searched through but cannot find anyway of doing it.


Any help appreciated.

 Regards,

 David 








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