Re: Need help setting the *charset*

2002-12-23 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Robert,

On 01:09 21.12.2002, you [Robert D. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote...

 I just set the charset in the template for TBUDL  in the *Account*, to
 be Ukranian KOI8, or something like that --- I tried Central European
 --- and still the charset, in the headers, is always us-ascii

Mail clients always use the most common denominator when supplying a
charset. A message you type that has set KOI-8R charset but only uses
plain US ASCII characters will be sent with US ASCII encoding, mainly
because there wans't anything to encode ;)

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Re: Need help setting the *charset*

2002-12-21 Thread Edvinas
Hello,

On Friday, December 20, 2002, 19:45, Robert wrote:
RD I tick-marked the Always use this charset for 8859-1
RD I also put %charset=ISO-8859-1 in the template for many addresses,
RD including this one.

RD Yet, when I CC a message back to myself, I see the RFC headers contains
RD *charset=us-ascii* ---

RD Could someone please tell me *if* I am doiong something incorrectly?

I guess you used only ASCII characters in your test. Therefore The Bat!
marked message as us-ascii. Try to use any 8 bit character like öüß etc.
Then it should be marked as ISO-8859-1.

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Re: Need help setting the *charset*

2002-12-21 Thread Robert D.
Recently, Edvinas squawked:

 I guess you used only ASCII characters in your test. Therefore The Bat!
 marked message as us-ascii. Try to use any 8 bit character like öüß etc.
 Then it should be marked as ISO-8859-1.

Yes, that did it. Thank you!

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Need help setting the *charset*

2002-12-20 Thread Robert D.
I tick-marked the Always use this charset for 8859-1
I also put %charset=ISO-8859-1 in the template for many addresses,
including this one.

Yet, when I CC a message back to myself, I see the RFC headers contains
*charset=us-ascii* ---

Could someone please tell me *if* I am doiong something incorrectly?
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Thanks for the help ...
Robert D.
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Re: Need help setting the *charset*

2002-12-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Robert,

On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:45:24 -0500 GMT (21/12/02, 00:45 +0700 GMT),
Robert D. wrote:

 I tick-marked the Always use this charset for 8859-1
 I also put %charset=ISO-8859-1 in the template for many addresses,
 including this one.

 Yet, when I CC a message back to myself, I see the RFC headers contains
 *charset=us-ascii* ---

I may be mistaken, but isn't that just another word for the same
enoding?

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Re: Need help setting the *charset*

2002-12-20 Thread Robert D.
Recently, Thomas Fernandez squawked:


 I may be mistaken, but isn't that just another word for the same
 enoding?

Well, that might be so! I shall change the *charset* here to something
interesting and make a *test* to myself ...

Thanks for the idea ...

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Re: Need help setting the *charset*

2002-12-20 Thread Robert D.
Recently, Thomas Fernandez squawked:


 I may be mistaken, but isn't that just another word for the same
 enoding?

I just set the charset in the template for TBUDL  in the *Account*, to
be Ukranian KOI8, or something like that --- I tried Central European
--- and still the charset, in the headers, is always us-ascii

So --- OK -- I must be doing something wrong here. Everyone's says
*us-ascii*

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Re: Need help setting the *charset*

2002-12-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Robert,

On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:09:28 -0500 GMT (21/12/02, 07:09 +0700 GMT),
Robert D. wrote:

 I may be mistaken, but isn't that just another word for the same
 enoding?

 I just set the charset in the template for TBUDL  in the *Account*, to
 be Ukranian KOI8, or something like that --- I tried Central European
 --- and still the charset, in the headers, is always us-ascii

I jsut did a test myself and can confirm this. Very odd indeed.

 So --- OK -- I must be doing something wrong here. Everyone's says
 *us-ascii*

I was thinking the list server overrides the settings, but when I just
sent out a message in Thai encoding, the headers still insist it is
us-ascii. :-(

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Re: Need help setting the *charset*

2002-12-20 Thread Robert D.
Recently, Thomas Fernandez squawked:

 I was thinking the list server overrides the settings, but when I just
 sent out a message in Thai encoding, the headers still insist it is
 us-ascii. :-(

Thanks for testing the idea --- well, I'm lost but must keep trying to
figure it out, one way or the other. There is a List-Server I am sub'd
to and, as of about ten days ago, I can not post to it --- I neither get
a bounce nor ack-bak --- and I started investigating the headers ---I
used my OE-6 here and DID get through. OE headers showed me that the
message was 8859-1 --- and hence began my *trying* to make TB tell me
it had changed it's charset when I told it to ---

sigh BTW --- the status bar, lower right, tell me this is Ukranian.

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