Noticable Folder Slowdown.

2001-06-13 Thread Jamie Dainton

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Hello TBUDL,

  I think I may be getting close to the limits of either the bat or my
machine for messages in a  folder. On a PIII 500 with 192MB of ram  a
folder with 1 messages each of about 4K takes 45 seconds to open.
I've tried the usual purge and compress and saved 8MB (on a 350MB
mailbase (total)). Even folder with only a few thousand messages are
starting to slowdown noticeably.

I know it's been mentioned before but no ones ever had a proper
answer. What is the feasible (not theoretical) limit at which I'm
going to have to start splitting the folders up?

I don't think 1 messages in a folder is too much to ask for as
I've seen other mail systems deal with much larger volumes quite
happily.

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Re: Noticable Folder Slowdown.

2001-06-13 Thread Mark R Harding

Jamie,

Regarding your message dated: 13 June 2001...

JD I think I may be getting close to the limits of either the bat or
JD my machine for messages in a folder. On a PIII 500 with 192MB of
JD ram a folder with 1 messages each of about 4K takes 45 seconds
JD to open. I've tried the usual purge and compress and saved 8MB (on
JD a 350MB mailbase (total)). Even folder with only a few thousand
JD messages are starting to slowdown noticeably.

JD I know it's been mentioned before but no ones ever had a proper
JD answer. What is the feasible (not theoretical) limit at which I'm
JD going to have to start splitting the folders up?

JD I don't think 1 messages in a folder is too much to ask for as
JD I've seen other mail systems deal with much larger volumes quite
JD happily.

Too offer my perspective on your observation, I have tended to find
the versions of TB! that have been released since the 1.4x series to
be a lot quicker at folder access.  I have around 67,000 messages in
the account as a whole with my largest folder accounting for just over
20,000 of those.  The whole account message base has a file size of
451MB and when I access the biggest folder it takes an average of 7
seconds to display the contents.  My PC has similar hardware to you
(PIII 550) but with more memory so maybe that helps some.

Most of my folders (those with 6000 messages or less) tend to be
accessible in just 2-3 seconds or less.  Mostly, the access seems
instantaneous for any folder with 2000 messages in.

I could probably do some good by purging and compressing myself
(haven't done that in a while) but overall I'd say TB! was coping
admirably.

I don't know if any of the above is helpful but it should provide a
counter view perhaps.

All the best,

Mark.


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Re: Noticable Folder Slowdown.

2001-06-13 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:34:10 +0100, Mark thoughtfully wrote the following:
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MRH Too offer my perspective on your observation, I have tended to find
MRH the versions of TB! that have been released since the 1.4x series to
MRH be a lot quicker at folder access.  I have around 67,000 messages in
MRH the account as a whole with my largest folder accounting for just
MRH over 20,000 of those.  The whole account message base has a file size
MRH of 451MB and when I access the biggest folder it takes an average of
MRH 7 seconds to display the contents.  My PC has similar hardware to you
MRH (PIII 550) but with more memory so maybe that helps some.

MRH Most of my folders (those with 6000 messages or less) tend to be
MRH accessible in just 2-3 seconds or less.  Mostly, the access seems
MRH instantaneous for any folder with 2000 messages in.

MRH I could probably do some good by purging and compressing myself
MRH (haven't done that in a while) but overall I'd say TB! was coping
MRH admirably.

MRH I don't know if any of the above is helpful but it should provide a
MRH counter view perhaps.

Processor speed and memory have been mentioned but nothing about  hard
disk performance when this could be significantly different between both
your systems. When I upgraded my hard disk to a much faster one, there was
dramatic improvement in how quickly TB! handled large message bases. I
don't really see a significant pause in the speed of folders being opened
until I exceed approximately 6000 messages in a folder where the access
time reaches about 2 seconds. With my old hard disk, it was tedious to
work with a folder containing such a large message base.

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Re[2]: Noticable Folder Slowdown.

2001-06-13 Thread Joseph McDonald



MRH the account as a whole with my largest folder accounting for just
MRH over 20,000 of those.  The whole account message base has a file size
[...]
MRH I could probably do some good by purging and compressing myself
MRH (haven't done that in a while) but overall I'd say TB! was coping
MRH admirably.

I'd say so.  I coming from using MS Outlook, and that program would
just die after about 16K messages in a folder.  It just would refuse
to accept mail until you deleted messages out of your folder --
pathetic.

A happy bat user,
-joe


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