Re: OT: Hamburg.de (was: runbox.com versus TheBat!)

2001-03-19 Thread Johannes Posel

Dear Thomas,

Going back 03:34 19.03.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts:

 That means I can become a member and use the SMTP service, regardless
 of the account I'm connecting to the internet with, and regardless of
 the sender inforamtion?

Yes, provided your mail client supports SMTP AUTH, which TB does.

 This would be *the* solution for people who travel a lot and need to
 connect via different ISP's for several accounts. Do you have a web
 page?

No, we don't have a web page. This is not a public service, it is
"granted" on a per case decision, and bounded to the usual AUPs (no
spam)...

Cheers,
 Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(root) nameserver = (root)
(root) internet address = 127.0.0.1

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Re: OT: Hamburg.de (was: runbox.com versus TheBat!)

2001-03-19 Thread Johannes Posel

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I know, I'm talking to myself ;)

 No, we don't have a web page. This is not a public service, it is
 "granted" on a per case decision, and bounded to the usual AUPs (no
 spam)...

If someone thinks an AUTH access could be of use for him, he's welcome
to ask *off-list*, as this is off-topic ;) Feel free to mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers,
 Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OT: Hamburg.de (was: runbox.com versus TheBat!)

2001-03-18 Thread Thomas

Hallo Johannes,

On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:19:52 +0100 GMT (18/03/2001, 17:19 +0800 GMT),
Johannes Posel wrote:

JP This is because Hamburg.de is not an ISP, but rather a "mail service"
JP provided by the city of Hamburg to it's citizens ;)

Well, when she got the CD-R it inluded a dial-up setup, which I
understand connects to an ISP run by Hansenet and is *not* free. Only
the email address @Hamburg.de is free, not the access to the internet.

I called their hotline, which is in Duesseldorf or so, and the
gentleman who called me back was very nice (a The Bat!-User :-)), but
confirmed that I have to use a Hamburg.de account to send from, if I
want to use their SMTP server.

JP Anyway there are plenty of availiable mail servers that are not in
JP ORBS or MAPS filter system (ever heard of the K12 in *.us *g*).

No haven't heard. Please enlighted me. (K12 used to stand for
"education from kindergarten to 12th grade". Has that changed?)

JP And if this fails, you can always ask some administrator you know
JP if he could enable an account for SMTP AUTH for you. We do for
JP example :)

Who is *we*? Are you running an ISP?

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Re: OT: Hamburg.de (was: runbox.com versus TheBat!)

2001-03-18 Thread Johannes Posel

Dear Thomas,

Going back 11:08 18.03.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts:

 Well, when she got the CD-R it inluded a dial-up setup, which I
 understand connects to an ISP run by Hansenet and is *not* free. Only
 the email address @Hamburg.de is free, not the access to the internet.

Sure. @berlin.de and soon @muenchen.de will provide the same free mail
to their citizens. Hey, they're discovering the Internet :)

 I called their hotline, which is in Duesseldorf or so, and the
 gentleman who called me back was very nice (a The Bat!-User :-)), but
 confirmed that I have to use a Hamburg.de account to send from, if I
 want to use their SMTP server.

Sure, because Hamburg.de is not bound to an ISP and thus cannot check
against known IP blocks.

 No haven't heard. Please enlighted me. (K12 used to stand for
 "education from kindergarten to 12th grade". Has that changed?)

It is. These guys operate mailservers, that ar either too old to
enforce anti-relay policys or that are just left somewhere for years.
I always wondered why spammers did not find them...

 Who is *we*? Are you running an ISP?

No. Gott bewahre :) Too much trouble. You know: "The Internet was
build in order to resist an atomic warfare. They never forecasted
anything like Deutsche Telekom AG."

I'm operating several SMTP servers around the globe. They provide
AUTH, SSL and some other nifty gimmicks, and work reliably :)

Cheers,
 Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: OT: Hamburg.de (was: runbox.com versus TheBat!)

2001-03-18 Thread Thomas

Hi Johannes,

On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:26:29 +0100GMT (18/03/2001, 20:26 +0800GMT),
Johannes Posel wrote:

JP No. Gott bewahre :) Too much trouble. You know: "The Internet was
JP build in order to resist an atomic warfare. They never forecasted
JP anything like Deutsche Telekom AG."

LOL!

JP I'm operating several SMTP servers around the globe. They provide
JP AUTH, SSL and some other nifty gimmicks, and work reliably :)

That means I can become a member and use the SMTP service, regardless
of the account I'm connecting to the internet with, and regardless of
the sender inforamtion?

This would be *the* solution for people who travel a lot and need to
connect via different ISP's for several accounts. Do you have a web
page?

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Cheers,
Thomas.

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