Dear Thomas,

Going back 11:08 18.03.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts:

> Well, when she got the CD-R it inluded a dial-up setup, which I
> understand connects to an ISP run by Hansenet and is *not* free. Only
> the email address @Hamburg.de is free, not the access to the internet.

Sure. @berlin.de and soon @muenchen.de will provide the same free mail
to their citizens. Hey, they're discovering the Internet :)

> I called their hotline, which is in Duesseldorf or so, and the
> gentleman who called me back was very nice (a The Bat!-User :-)), but
> confirmed that I have to use a Hamburg.de account to send from, if I
> want to use their SMTP server.

Sure, because Hamburg.de is not bound to an ISP and thus cannot check
against known IP blocks.

> No haven't heard. Please enlighted me. (K12 used to stand for
> "education from kindergarten to 12th grade". Has that changed?)

It is. These guys operate mailservers, that ar either too old to
enforce anti-relay policys or that are just left somewhere for years.
I always wondered why spammers did not find them...

> Who is *we*? Are you running an ISP?

No. Gott bewahre :) Too much trouble. You know: "The Internet was
build in order to resist an atomic warfare. They never forecasted
anything like Deutsche Telekom AG."

I'm operating several SMTP servers around the globe. They provide
AUTH, SSL and some other nifty gimmicks, and work reliably :)

Cheers,
 Johannes                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- 
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the
subject.
                -- Winston Churchill

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