Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Roelof, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 7:39:54 PM, you wrote: Snip They do for me too. MB My conclusion: the complete msi install package has a bug in it. Cannot confirm Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Alexander, Friday, January 26, 2007, 11:58:57 AM, you wrote: Do you have the Christmas splash screen still. I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the Christmas theme and smileys work. ASK And *both* are 3.95.08?!? Yes. The xmas edition is on this computer running Windows 2000 and the bad smiley version is on XP. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Alexander, Friday, January 26, 2007, 12:47:16 PM, you wrote: And both are 3.95.08?!? Here they both are 3.95.08, except that they both also report themselves in Help/About as 3.95.8. Yes, I know that the MSI had the same version as the previous standalone .exe - but Stuart wrote that he installed teh *MSI* version twice, and both are different, and that I find hard to believe... Now that I think about it I believe, but I'm not really sure, that I installed the 3.95.08 exe file first and then the msi on the machine that smilies are not working on and skipped the exe on the machine where they are working. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Mary, Friday, January 26, 2007, 2:18:34 PM, you wrote: Stuart Cuddy is a very logical-minded person, not given to fantasy. :) :'( Who's spreading this vicious rumor. :/ -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Roelof, Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:14:32 PM, you wrote: SC I installed the msi on 2 machines, one changed to the regular SC splash screen and smileys don't work and the other kept the SC Christmas theme and smileys work. RO Was that the same .msi? As far as I know. It was the link in the same e-mail, unless they change what it linked to. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Howdy Mary, Friday, December 23, 2005, 3:42:31 PM, Mary wrotened: I have moved to a new computer and my smileys aren't working. Could someone remind me where the info is. I have the smileys downloaded but they don't show up. BTW the info does not appear to be in the new help file. Mary Get the right-click context menu from the message body while you're Mary focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain Text Viewer is Mary not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* ticked. Mary Be sure that you unpacked the Smileys zip file into The Bat!/Images Mary and not into any subfolder. In Images you should have only: Mary Default Mary pcwimages Mary rogues Mary default.msl Mary pcwsmileys.msl Mary rogues.msl Mary Can't think of anything else. Mary Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the Mary new Help File. Mary Perhaps that can be remedied next year. In order to view smilies you have to read your mail in the RTF format. -- Have Fun, Stan the Almighty! [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM You know, I think the sun may be the biggest thing in the world. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Mary, Friday, December 23, 2005, 9:42:31 AM, you wrote: MB Get the right-click context menu from the message body while you're MB focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain Text Viewer is MB not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* ticked. Yes this was the problem. Thanks for the help. The only thing that could have made it better was to have included a smiley in the message, then I would have immediately known that it was working. ;) Best wishes for the Holidays. :bearhug: -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Bob, Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:27:34 PM, you wrote: It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. Hmmm, a search on Smileys did not work. Well at least it is there, I guess it just needs to add Smiley to the search list. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Urban, On 28 April 2005, 22:45 you wrote: But there could be a big problem with * (any number of the preceeding character). If we change the regexp from Martin to ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)-.*\ *.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Note the spaces around the first *.*) you might see what I'm getting at. A bold . written is hard to distinguish from one that is written in a normal font, and it most definitely is not the same thing as *.* (Bad example, I know, but it's getting kind of late and I'm too tired to make up my own examples). I doubt that there is a problem with the ideas described in this thread... I looked at every message in Mozilla Thunderbird and each renders correctly. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 We are born princes, and the civilizing process makes us into frogs. ERIC BERNE ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.9.20 Return IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
I have TB 3.0.1.33. The smileys dont work in HTML mails, the Use of smileys in the options are checked. Any idea? MM no smiley is displayed? do You have Images folder in home directory? I meant, that when I got a mail, I have smileys. But should not it show up when I am composing a HTML message? My Sony cellphone detects when I am writing a smiley, and exchange it to a picture on-the-fly. Should not TB work the same? Vili Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Alexander, On 28 April 2005, 18:17 you wrote: I don't understand. Aren't asterisks and brackets also parts of the regex syntax, and we anyway use them all in a regular text? I don't understand, either. RegEx, to be precise. :-P All I (think I) know is that the slash is used as an escape character if you want to match characters that normally are regex qualifiers. Like if you really mean to match an asterisk you'd use /* in the regex. Or something like that. :-} Actually, (to be precise :-) ) you would use the backslash \, e.g. ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 There can't be a crisis next week. My schedule is full. HENRY KISSINGER ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.9.20 Return IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys - TB 3.0
Hi Cristina, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 5:50:34 PM, you wrote: CR Did you right clicked on the text pane and checked Smileys? CR They are working for me. Many thanks. It was clicked, but I unclicked, and then clicked again and now OK. Cheers. Dougie Douglas Coull, Langbank, Scotland www.doug-coull.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MB Further, to have headshot appear when I was only writing about a photo MB portrait was quite disconcerting. That image completely distorted my MB meaning. And just typing the word will call it. MB Knifed is also very ugly in the idea that it conveys. I think we MB could do without these bloody images, I have to agree with you on those two points. Whilst I realise that it is each to their own I can't for the life of me think of any instance in a normal email where anyone would want to have either of those two emoticons (one can hardly call them smilies!). OK, I have scrubbed them from my smiley list and just don't use them but I just don't know why they were put there in the first place. JMHO of course and I realise others will think differently. - -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.12.03 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQQuGIxqZtcDKk7W+EQJ1RQCfZ0ooPmhwcr6WCq0NSbO/HsI+5psAnRNT vInv9AtFtfG++wLO/Bh4FMtD =Fg4u -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Alexander, On Saturday Saturday, July 31, 2004 at 9:58:52 AM you wrote: ASK And, I beg for pardon, it is really a lot easier to understand GDR ASK (grinning, ducking, running) than a graphical interpretation of it... :-P Grinning, ducking, running is this one :gdr: I don't think :-P looks much like gdr either! ;) -- Regards, Maggie All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
On 29 2004 ., 22:10:55, Paul Cartwright wrote: PC yes, use the drop-down menu!! That's what I would love to see in one of the next releases... PC I always pull up the web site, but it was mentioned recently to put a PC shortcut on your desktop, and maybe save the file ( or link) to the web PC site. Yes, if you can browse the web from the machine you are typing your message on. And what if you are behind a firewall that allows only 25/110 connections? :-) PC or you could always create an email to yourself, and include all the PC smileys, so you could refer back to it any time :grin: This is also an idea. Perhaps the most practical for me at the moment... -- Warm regards, -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~~ PGP key request: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Embedded ~~ The Bat! v2.12.00 Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 pgpyHU1Cy9ACX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Hello Leif, On Wednesday Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 7:21:16 AM you wrote: LG Hello Roelof, LG Wednesday, July 21, 2004, 7:15:57 AM, you wrote: Roelof It's not as if we're getting that many new smileys and rogues, Roelof is it? Starting TB once everyday would do it quite nicely, Roelof don't you think? LG Just ask Mary, she gets a few submissions for PCWSmileys nearly every LG day. LG I usually just download when I see a :: handle and no pic... :grin: LG Well, unless the poster was Maggie. She like to make them up! ;-) It's a case of 'wishing won't make it so' You have such sharp eyes! :rofl2: -- Regards, Maggie Self help for people who talk too much: On and On Anon. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Leif, Tuesday, July 20, 2004, 3:12:17 PM, you wrote: LG For the most part, they'll see the word grin with :: around it. LG However, someone with an IM client could most likely load the .MSL LG file and download the images, and they'd see it. Ok, last stupid question I hope. I had never seen an .MSL file until smileys appeared in The Bat. Is that a generic file format used by IM and any other app that uses smileys. Where would one go to download the .MSL file and how would one know they needed to. If you want to point me to some source I can read rather than taking up user list bandwidth, then feel free. I'm happy to go read elsewhere if you will give me a push in the right direction. By the way, I went to your website, and your daughter is cute. Looks like her mother! :grin: -- Best regards, Rusty Farabee Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Hello Darrin, On Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 4:56:56 PM you wrote: DR I use Tbat and I dont see smileys. I just see the words grin with :: DR and a normal smile with : ). Am I missing something here? :( Earlier today, Leif posted this: LG Below are the instructions to get smileys working properly on your system. Assumptions: - Your installation of The Bat! is in C:\Program Files\The Bat! - Any folders referenced in this how-to are subfolders of the above. - There is no need to close The Bat! while you perform these steps. 1. Step one deleted, because you don't need to do it. 2. Download the following files: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip and http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys/pcwsmileys.zip 3. Unzip both PCWSmileys.ZIP and Rogues.ZIP into the IMAGES folder. 4. You should now have the following files in the IMAGES folder: default.msl pcwsmileys.msl rogues.msl and the following folders: default pcwimages rogues *And nothing else!* 5. From within The Bat!, hold down the following keys CTRL-ALT-SHIFT, press the letter 'T' (without quotes), and let go of all the keys. You may see this key combination referred to on the lists as C-A-S-T. This forces a reload of all the .MSL files. 6. Locate a message that you know has smileys in it. Everything should be working now. -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). -- Regards, Maggie Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. Winston Churchill Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys - How Are They Viewed By Non Bat Mail Programs
Hello Bill, On Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 7:17:15 PM you wrote: Below are the instructions to get smileys working properly on your system. BM I think that the version of the Bat! must be at least 2.12 Yes, you do need version 2.12.00. -- Regards, Maggie Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys and Rogues
Hello Roelof, Friday, July 16, 2004, 6:23:59 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Peter, RO On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:01:13 -0400GMT (17-7-2004, 0:01 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: PK I am confused on this. I can see some smiley but not all and cannot see any PK rogues PK I have downloaded 3 different zip files installed some of them in a subdirectory PK \Images. PK I am not sure which zip files I need to install, or all? RO Let's take the instructions Leif posted to tbot half an hour ago: RO Let's start with a clean installation of smileys. RO 1. Delete *everything* in the IMAGES folder *except* Default.MSL and ROthe folder named DEFAULT. RO 2. Download the following files: ROhttp://www.PCWize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip ROand ROhttp://www.PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys/pcwsmileys.zip RO 3. Unzip both PCWSmileys.ZIP and Rogues.ZIP into the IMAGES folder. RO 4. You should now have the following files in the IMAGES folder: ROdefault.msl ROpcwsmileys.msl ROrogues.msl ROand the following folders: ROdefault ROpcwimages ROrogues RO*And nothing else!* RO 5. From within The Bat!, hold down the following keys CTRL-ALT-SHIFT, ROpress the letter 'T' (without quotes), and let go of all the keys. ROYou may see this key combination referred to on the lists as ROC-A-S-T. ROThis forces a reload of all the .MSL files. RO 6. Locate a message that you know has smileys in it. Everything should RObe working now. Thanks for the detailed instructions, it worked exactly as you predicted. I see your picture in the Header strip and lots of smileys everywhere. Thank you for your help. -- Best regards, Peter Kerekes (Toronto, Canada) TB! v2.12.00 and BayesIt! 0.5.5 on Windows 20005.0.2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello Urban, On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] U Not so easy if I am the sender -- I either have to start each mail with U a note that TB users should use the PTV (and maybe even a description U how to do that), or send whatever text I want to as an attachment. I don't understand why you should have to do that? All TB! users presumably subscribe to this list at least, if not the others too, so will have read the wealth of information on Smilies and how to deal with them. Other e-mail programmes work in different ways so they either accept Smilies, in which case the user involved will also be used to them and know what to do if they have the option of not wanting to see them or, with the rest, they will just see the normal : - ) instead. I find Smilies brighten up mail but sometimes I just want to read it plain so it's a very simple right click and de select. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.11.02 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
At 5:29 AM on Saturday, June 05, 2004 Boris BG wrote the following Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?: BG [...] So, congratulations Ritlabs, go on with new improvements that will BG make your Bat irresistable. Pleeease, can you implement feature for BG light control for my aquarium. Nice toolbar would be welcome. Fish BG icons and fish smiles are must! Let me know you are preparing it in BG order to provide me enough time to find another email client. BG [\...] Ho hum... same old, same old non-informative stuff. Pleeeze take it to the TBB[itch] list. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello Thomas, Saturday, June 5, 2004, 8:03:59 AM, you wrote: Allie Martin wrote: AM I just saw one from mmMeister on HTML editor enhancements. I'm AM pretty sure he's not the only one T I always thought Maggie was a she. Last I looked checking. Yep! A she!! -- Regards, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello Urban, Saturday, June 5, 2004, 3:59:12 AM, you wrote: Besides, you can disable both features completely if you wish. And it isn't hard to do so. U Yes, it's easy if I am on the receiving end. U Not so easy if I am the sender -- I either have to start each mail with U a note that TB users should use the PTV (and maybe even a description U how to do that), or send whatever text I want to as an attachment. I don't understand what you're trying to say... If the receiver uses the PTV, he/she will see the smileys as they are, wtihout icons. If they use the HTML/RTV, they will see the icons instead of the plain smileys... Why should you send a note??? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 2.11.02 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello Urban, On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] U But not everybody is a TB user :-( I realise that and was referring to just the TB! users. U and even some TB users don't know English. Yes but there are mailing lists for TB! in lots of other languages as well. normal : - ) instead. I wrote it that way with the spaces so that everyone would see it as a non smilie whatever settings they have. U E-mail is about communicating, and communicating is about U transferring ideas and/or thoughts to another person in such a way U that they don't misinterpret your intentions. I agree but, even without smilies (or the old version as above) there is a chance of misinterpretation because, without eye contact, body language and voice interpretation a lot is missing from messages and I have, as all of us probably have on occasion, misread a message as aggravating when it isn't or vice versa. UI use the PTV myself, so I'm not really bothered by the smilies Well isn't that the joy of TB! in that it caters for many tastes? I've never touched the mail ticker apart from a quick play with it right at the beginning but others swear by it. Every Bat user has different opinions as to what should or should not be in it. If everyone's tastes were catered for and the requests for other facilities that have been asked for were added, it would become many times more varied and versatile (couldn't think of a better word) than it already is. I think its core facility still knocks spots of Eudora, Pocomail and Pegasus - the only others I've really had a go at. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.11.02 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello Urban, On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why should you send a note??? U Because I do NOT want them to use the icons under ANY circumstances. But the icons themselves aren't used when you send the mail. If you write :-) then that is what is seen in the PTV. Others who use RTV will see the icons because they have presumably chosen that viewer to do so. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.11.02 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello all, Friday, June 4, 2004, rich gregory wrote: If I send 100 emails out with Smileys, chances are (guessing) 60 are going to Outlook, 30 to Netscape (AOL), and the other 10 to Eudora, Pegasus, The Bat!, etc. If they only mail clients to see my Smileys are TB! clients then it is a complete waste of time and resources. There is no support for sending smileys to users in outgoing messages, version 2.11 can display text smileys as icons in RTV/HTML viewer and You can disable this feature, if You don't like them. As I think, You should test it before You are writing such erroneous informations. Same deal with mail chat if I cannot chat cross-platform then it too is a complete waste. The Bat! has many unique features and I don't understand, why must be features cross-platform. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.11.02 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello rich, Friday, June 4, 2004, 5:38:08 PM, you wrote: B Smileys and Chat- can anyone tell me why Ritlabs has added these B silly features to its awesome mailer? Smileys seems like something B straight out of AOL's cheesy mailer, and those of us that actually B use instant messaging are probably not going to ditch what we B currently use in favor of Mail Chat anytime soon. rg While I agree that neither should have taken a front seat to rg developing other features I do not think I am nearly as offended as rg you by either. rg My take on Smileys and mail chat: If they are mail client specific rg then they are completely useless. rg If I send 100 emails out with Smileys, chances are (guessing) 60 are rg going to Outlook, 30 to Netscape (AOL), and the other 10 to Eudora, rg Pegasus, The Bat!, etc. If they only mail clients to see my Smileys rg are TB! clients then it is a complete waste of time and resources. Who can see the smileys other than BAT readers? rg Same deal with mail chat if I cannot chat cross-platform then it too rg is a complete waste. rg What happens when I get an email that contains (c) for copy-written rg material I do not want to see a cup of coffee. (I would however rg welcome a beer for (b) in a bulleted list!) B Did anyone actually request these features? There are many fine B suggestions on the wishlist and I can't believe that these two B stood out above the rest. Why doesn't Ritlabs just give its user B base what they ask for instead of bloating their program with this B stuff? Or at least give us the option of installing it as a B feature. rg Boy, I have to agree completely on this! I have not only requested new rg features but placed unresolved bug reports as well. :( rg Rich rg P.S. The only reason I cannot agree with your first statement above rg (that TB! is awesome) is due to the seeming disregard the user rg community's issues. Aside from that TB! is still my mailer of choice rg (warts and all, as they say). Agree fully. The only salvation is that smileys can be disengaged and using MicroEd editor. Chat I guess can be disregarded. Still it is an effort to add to the program instead of using the effort to add other useful features and bug corrections. -- Best regards, Peter Kerekes (Toronto, Canada) Maturity is knowing when and where to be immature. TB! v2.11.02 and BayesIt! 0.5.5 on Windows 98 SE4.10.1998 A Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
