Re: ALT-F12 options window ? WAS: Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-25 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Paul,

On 24 Apr 2004 at 12:42:47 -0400 GMT [18:42 CEST] you wrote:

PC no, it makes sense NOW, but try this. With the ticker window in focus (
PC Browse ticker messages) hit ALT-F12 . There is no options menu under
PC Main menu. You have to have the main TB program window in focus..
PC once I switched from the ticker window to the Main TB window, I found it
PC and was able to set those 2 hotkeys... I'm not stupid, maybe
PC window-focused-challenged ;0)

Ok. I don't use the ticker so I couldn't think around _that_ corner ;)

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Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-24 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Friday, April 23, 2004, 9:39 AM, you wrote:

DG As you said, the CC is too cumbersome to bring up on demand, esp if
DG it's often needed.

PF Set a keyboard shortcut for

PF   Show Connection Centre

PF   Hide Connection Centre

PF ... I use CTRL+SHIFT+1 and CTRL+SHIFT+2.

PF This way, it's easy.

well, I tried ALT-F12 but I can't seem to find the show/hide connection
center, how do I set that shortcut??

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Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-24 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Paul,

On 24 Apr 2004 at 07:46:15 -0400 GMT [13:46 CEST] you wrote:

PC well, I tried ALT-F12 but I can't seem to find the show/hide connection
PC center, how do I set that shortcut??

Main Menu-Options-Show Connection Centre

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Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-24 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Saturday, April 24, 2004, 7:53 AM, you wrote:

PC well, I tried ALT-F12 but I can't seem to find the show/hide connection
PC center, how do I set that shortcut??

Main Menu-Options-Show Connection Centre

Thanks Andre, that shows me the menu item, what I need is how to set the
shortcut. ALT-F12 shows most of the shortcuts, but I don't see the
connection center there.

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Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-24 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Paul,

On 24 Apr 2004 at 10:44:02 -0400 GMT [16:44 CEST] you wrote:


PC On Saturday, April 24, 2004, 7:53 AM, you wrote:

PC well, I tried ALT-F12 but I can't seem to find the show/hide connection
PC center, how do I set that shortcut??

PC Main Menu-Options-Show Connection Centre

PC Thanks Andre, that shows me the menu item, what I need is how to set the
PC shortcut. ALT-F12 shows most of the shortcuts, but I don't see the
PC connection center there.

Well, if that is what you want my advice to you would be to listen to my
advice *g*

- Press alt-f12
- you're now in the shortcut editor. Look at the top for Main Menu. If
it's not expanded expand it.
- Look down for Options. If it's not expanded expand it.
- Look for Show Connection Centre. If it's not expanded expand it.
- Here you can assign shortcuts to hide, show always and automatically.

Sorry for not beeing as detailed before but I'm lazy :)

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ALT-F12 options window ? WAS: Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-24 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Saturday, April 24, 2004, 12:18 PM, you wrote:


PC Main Menu-Options-Show Connection Centre

PC Thanks Andre, that shows me the menu item, what I need is how to set the
PC shortcut. ALT-F12 shows most of the shortcuts, but I don't see the
PC connection center there.

AW Well, if that is what you want my advice to you would be to listen to my
AW advice *g*

AW - Press alt-f12
AW - you're now in the shortcut editor. Look at the top for Main Menu. If
AW it's not expanded expand it.
AW - Look down for Options. If it's not expanded expand it.
AW - Look for Show Connection Centre. If it's not expanded expand it.
AW - Here you can assign shortcuts to hide, show always and automatically.

AW Sorry for not beeing as detailed before but I'm lazy :)

no, it makes sense NOW, but try this. With the ticker window in focus (
Browse ticker messages) hit ALT-F12 . There is no options menu under
Main menu. You have to have the main TB program window in focus..
once I switched from the ticker window to the Main TB window, I found it
and was able to set those 2 hotkeys... I'm not stupid, maybe
window-focused-challenged ;0)


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Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-23 Thread Matt Thoene
Argh! Why must the connection centre stick open on the IMAP
accounts? I have it set to open automatically, but it does not close
if there's an open IMAP connection. Is there any way to fix this?

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Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-23 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Martin,

Friday, April 23, 2004, 3:08:25 AM, you wrote:

 Open Account Properties and go to Mail management. There's an option
 to close the connection when the account is inactive.

Of course, if the account is inactive, it's not going to be syncing
unless I select it (which would be like having a POP account without
periodic checking...).

So one has to decide which is the lesser of two evils: Having to
manually activate IMAP accounts? or having the Connection Center
continuously open? For me it's the latter.

Now if the Connection Center could be configured on an
account-by-account basis, that would be the ideal. But maybe that
would be easier said than done from a programming standpoint...

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Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-23 Thread Allie Martin
Dave Gorman, [DG] wrote:

DG So one has to decide which is the lesser of two evils: Having to
DG manually activate IMAP accounts? or having the Connection Center
DG continuously open? For me it's the latter.

There's a third evil. :)

You can have the CC always hidden and use the log panel to see what's
happening with the account. In some instances the log panel will not
be enough and you need to fireup the CC.

The CC is annoying especially since it comes up in the foreground when
sending messages.

There really aught to be a way to easily summon the CC manually, like
a shortcut or a toolbar button.

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Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-23 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Allie,

Friday, April 23, 2004, 7:47:41 AM, you wrote:

DG So one has to decide which is the lesser of two evils: Having to
DG manually activate IMAP accounts? or having the Connection Center
DG continuously open? For me it's the latter.

 There's a third evil. :)

 You can have the CC always hidden and use the log panel to see
 what's happening with the account.

Even considering the third evil, I will stick with my original choice
of evils :)

 In some instances the log panel will not be enough and you need to
 fireup the CC.

This is enough reason for me. I do quite a bit of searching, and with
IMAP, the only way to know it's done searching is the CC messages. As
you said, the CC is too cumbersome to bring up on demand, esp if it's
often needed.

 The CC is annoying especially since it comes up in the foreground
 when sending messages.

This is my biggest argument in favor of the perpetual CC. I'm still
having frequent sending problems (described below), and watching the
CC pop up when sending is the confirmation I need that the message was
actually sent -- it's a more immediate and certain confirmation than
watching the Outbox contents.

My sending problem is that quite often when I send a message, it just
sits in the Outbox (whether using a local or server-side Outbox, it
makes no difference). If I try to do a Send queued mail it says
there is nothing to send. The only way to get it to send (as someone
on the list recommended) is to open the message from the outbox, make
a small change (add a space, for instance) and send again. This works,
although sometimes even that requires 3-4 instances of
reopening/changing/resending.

This appears to be an IMAP-specific problem as it does not occur with
my POP accounts. I've figured it's just one more TB! IMAP glitch that
I'll have to live with until they decide to prioritize IMAP
functionality (or until I finally snap and decide to use a different
client).

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Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-23 Thread Allie Martin
Dave Gorman, [DG] wrote:

DG My sending problem is that quite often when I send a message, it
DG just sits in the Outbox (whether using a local or server-side
DG Outbox, it makes no difference). If I try to do a Send queued
DG mail it says there is nothing to send. The only way to get it to
DG send (as someone on the list recommended) is to open the message
DG from the outbox, make a small change (add a space, for instance)
DG and send again. This works, although sometimes even that requires
DG 3-4 instances of reopening/changing/resending.

This is terrible. I think that problem would break my patience. sigh

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Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-23 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Allie,

Friday, April 23, 2004, 10:07:02 AM, you wrote:

 This is terrible. I think that problem would break my patience. sigh

If I sent as much mail as you I would have abandoned TB! (at least
temporarily) long ago!!

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Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-23 Thread Matt Thoene
On Friday, April 23, 2004 @ 1:08:25 AM [-0700], Martin Webster wrote:

MT Argh! Why must the connection centre stick open on the IMAP
MT accounts? I have it set to open automatically, but it does not close
MT if there's an open IMAP connection. Is there any way to fix this?

 Open Account Properties and go to Mail management. There's an option to
 close the connection when the account is inactive.

I suppose that does get rid of the Connection Centre but I would
prefer to not close the connection. Can't the CC just disappear like
it does with the POP accounts? I second Allie's motion of a button to
summon the CC manually!

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Re: Relating to IMAP...

2004-04-23 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Dave,

On 23-04-2004 15:32, you [DG] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
DG As you said, the CC is too cumbersome to bring up on demand, esp if
DG it's often needed.

Set a keyboard shortcut for

  Show Connection Centre

  Hide Connection Centre

... I use CTRL+SHIFT+1 and CTRL+SHIFT+2.

This way, it's easy.

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