Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Thursday, September 30, 2004, 11:22:39 PM, you wrote: ASK No you don't. ;-) Caught by the folder template! *veg* You're right, but I've got most of the egg scraped off now! lol! -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Friday, October 1, 2004, 12:22:02 AM, you wrote: TN It is not the fault of the folder template, it's the TN reply-to setting of the message plus user's awareness TN to do the right things at the right time... *veg* Yes, and I'm not sure my drive is big enough to put *all* your addies in my ab ... so the risk will continue. But a blunder like that every couple of years or so keeps me on my toes :-) -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Leif, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 11:34:35 PM, you wrote: *All* generalizations are false. :grin: My all time favorite undoubtely is A greek man said: all greeks are liars. \\8^) -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Lynn, Friday, October 1, 2004, 2:17:47 AM, you wrote: Am writing off list No you don't. ;-) Caught by the folder template! *veg* -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Friday, October 1, 2004, 08:22, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Caught by the folder template! *veg* It is not the fault of the folder template, it's the reply-to setting of the message plus user's awareness to do the right things at the right time... *veg* -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Lynn, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:17:47 -0700 GMT (01/10/2004, 07:17 +0700 GMT), Lynn wrote: L Am writing off list, And I guess you're using a folder template? g scnr -- Cheers, Thomas. 13. Los Angeles's full name is El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula and can be abbreviated to 3.63% of its size,L.A. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hallo Thorvald, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:53:48 +0200GMT (30-9-2004, 7:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TN Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always TN contain a MID? No, it should have a MiID, but some users deliberately set their mail client or server to remove the from their message. They obviously don't care about RFCs, nor do they care about proper threading and such. TN I just saw some SPAM mails do not have a MID. We've seen proper list contributions here without MID, as a consequence the replies didn't thread. When there's a MID lacking, it should be inserted by a receiving mail server, however not all servers do that (and when they do all of them give the same message different MIDs) -- Groetjes, Roelof I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator The Bat! 3.0.1 RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp5VNJnAUk3J.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 30 Sep 2004, @ @ at 07:53:48 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Hæ! Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always contain a MID? I just saw some SPAM mails do not have a MID. As I understand a newer RFC update(s) concerning MIDs, a MID is desirable, but is not obligatory, for a message to be valid. I can't recall exactly in this moment which RFC refers to this, but if you are interested in I could search through my backups, or someone better informed could drop a note instantly. I didn't see any message having not a MID which was not a spam, so far. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 29 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBW/nf9q62QPd3XuIRAlNBAJ4x1iGa3Yiv9tXNFGgPNGWxgE32bQCdFJn2 xeun3gKES5nSIDiMjo+Dum8= =Gd0b -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 14:19, Mica Mijatovic wrote: I didn't see any message having not a MID which was not a spam, so far. Me neither, but I just searched one of my archives with more than 5000 mails and there seem to be around 30 without MIDs. Is it possible to search for messages which *do not* contain a certain search string (let's say Message-Id)? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Mica, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:19:44 +0200 GMT (30/09/2004, 19:19 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM As I understand a newer RFC update(s) concerning MIDs, a MID is MM desirable, but is not obligatory, for a message to be valid. RFC 2822: Quote 3.6.4. Identification fields Though optional, every message SHOULD have a Message-ID: field. Furthermore, reply messages SHOULD have In-Reply-To: and References: fields as appropriate, as described below. /Quote -- Cheers, Thomas. There is a CD out entitled The Worst of Jefferson Airplane. If you buy this, take it home, play it, and enjoy it, should you take it back and demand a refund? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 30 Sep 2004, @ @ at 15:11:24 +0200, when Thorvald Neumann wrote: Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 14:19, Mica Mijatovic wrote: I didn't see any message having not a MID which was not a spam, so far. Me neither, but I just searched one of my archives with more than 5000 mails and there seem to be around 30 without MIDs. Is it possible to search for messages which *do not* contain a certain search string (let's say Message-Id)? Probably possible by searching using regexp (F7 / Advanced / Regular expression), but didn't try ever. But how did you find these 30 messages among those 5000 then? (-: -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast [Earth LOG: 29 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Thursday, September 30, 2004, 16:07, Mica Mijatovic wrote: But how did you find these 30 messages among those 5000 then? (-: I just searched for Message-ID in the header... And the search told me e.g. 5030 and when the archive folder contains 5060 mails, the rest must be without MID. ;) So I just got the number of mails without MID. Hmmmh, perhaps I should just create a filter and refilter the messages... -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else 30-Sep-2004 09:26, you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1 RC1 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 The trouble with today's individuals is that they're getting harder and harder to tell apart. -- Carl Antczak Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Alexander, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 9:35:17 AM, you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator A LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) Probably something similar to some of my taglines! :grin: Moderator (n): See 'glutton for punishment'. Moderator (n): See also - God, tyrant, egotist, oppressor. Moderator dies: .MPG at eleven! Moderator Justification No.1: Because I'm the Moderator; that's why! Moderators: Keep them dry and don't feed them after midnight. Moderators are NOT Gods. Gods have mercy! Modiphobia - Fear of being nagged by a moderator. Scully, have you ever heard of a race called the Moderators? Support lesser lifeforms ... take a moderator to lunch. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Statistics means never having to say you're certain. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hallo Alexander, On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:35:17 +0200GMT (30-9-2004, 17:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: I think, therefore I cannot be a moderator ASK LOL! Whats that supposed to mean? :-) Nothing important really. I've installed an old tagline file (from the days I was still active on chat echos in Fidonet) from over five years ago. And now my sins come back to haunt me. -- Groetjes, Roelof Every person gets to heaven in their own way. The Bat! 3.0.1 RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpnmBb0xDAHM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Thursday, September 30, 2004, 8:52:56 AM, you wrote: LG Probably something similar to some of my taglines! :grin: LG Moderator (n): See 'glutton for punishment'. LG Moderator (n): See also - God, tyrant, egotist, LG oppressor. LG Moderator dies: .MPG at eleven! LG Moderator Justification No.1: Because I'm the LG Moderator; that's why! LG Moderators: Keep them dry and don't feed them after LG midnight. LG Moderators are NOT Gods. Gods have mercy! LG Modiphobia - Fear of being nagged by a moderator. LG Scully, have you ever heard of a race called the LG Moderators? LG Support lesser lifeforms ... take a moderator to lunch. Oooh! Super taglines! Can I use them for t-shirts lol! -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hello Lynn, Thursday, September 30, 2004, 2:05:56 PM, you wrote: L Oooh! Super taglines! Can I use them for t-shirts lol! Here's the thing about taglines. *All* taglines are stolen. and another from my tagline collection... *All* generalizations are false. :grin: Of course you could always check out my site for *TONS* of taglines at: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/taglines/taglines.htm -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Of all the people I've met you're certainly one of them. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Thursday, September 30, 2004, 2:34:35 PM, you wrote: LG Thursday, September 30, 2004, 2:05:56 PM, you wrote: L Oooh! Super taglines! Can I use them for L t-shirts lol! LG Here's the thing about taglines. *All* taglines are LG stolen. LG and another from my tagline collection... LG *All* generalizations are false. :grin: Oooo-Kay ..:-) LG Of course you could always check out my site for *TONS* LG of taglines LG at: LG http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/taglines/taglines.htm Thanks .. I'm not sure I need to know that, but what the hay .. a few more megs won't make much difference! Am writing off list, as I figure this thread is pretty near to 'dead horse' status :-) Cheers! -- Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SPAM and Message-IDs (was: Re: How to filter such a message?)
Hæ! Concerning MIDs: Is it safe to assume a valid email does always contain a MID? I just saw some SPAM mails do not have a MID. -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ --- The Bat! v3.0.1 RC1 PopFile v0.22.0 Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) --- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
