Re: Spam mail

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo A,

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:35:24 +0100GMT (29-11-2006, 15:35 , where I
live), you wrote:

AT> Is it possible/advisable to have two antispam plugind fot TB! ?

It is possible.
You can use the average spam score as spam judge, but you can
also use the maximal or minimal spam score.

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Re: Spam mail

[A . Translator]

Na rijp beraad schreef Roelof Otten :

When I download regula from: http://www.gaijin.at/getit.php?id=tbrasp
I'm getting a regula.rar file with a regula.tbp file, where did you
get your download?



From the same place. I do see the file now, thank you.

Is it possible/advisable to have two antispam plugind fot TB! ?

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Re: Spam mail

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo A,

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:54:04 +0100GMT (29-11-2006, 14:54 , where I
live), you wrote:

AT> Thanks, Roelof. I understand that, but among the unpacked files there is no 
tbp
AT> file. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I'm trying Agava now. Thanks, though.

When I download regula from: http://www.gaijin.at/getit.php?id=tbrasp
I'm getting a regula.rar file with a regula.tbp file, where did you
get your download?

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Re: Spam mail

[A . Translator]

Roelof Otten bracht volgend idée uit :

You've got to add it to your spam plugins.
  Options -> Preferences -> Protection -> Anti-spam -> Add
Browse to the folder with the plugin and try to select the plugin.


Thanks, Roelof. I understand that, but among the unpacked files there is no tbp 
file. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I'm trying Agava now. Thanks, though.


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Re: Spam mail

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo A,

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:36:49 +0100GMT (29-11-2006, 13:36 , where I
live), you wrote:

AT> I was able to unzip the files, but cannot find a readme.
AT> I tried putting it all in one folder, but that doesn't do the trick.

AT> Never mind, I'll try something else. Thanks anayway!

You've got to add it to your spam plugins.
  Options -> Preferences -> Protection -> Anti-spam -> Add
Browse to the folder with the plugin and try to select the plugin.

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Re: Re[2]: Spam mail

[A . Translator]

Op 29-11-2006, heeft MikeD (2) verondersteld :

'rar' is an 'archive' format much like 'zip' files.  You have to
'unarchive' them as you would with a zip tile.  That will give you the
plugin as well as the other 'support' files that Regula needs.  There
will likely be a 'readme' or similar file that explains where those
files need to do.


I was able to unzip the files, but cannot find a readme.
I tried putting it all in one folder, but that doesn't do the trick.

Never mind, I'll try something else. Thanks anayway!

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Re[2]: Spam mail

[MikeD (2)]

Hello A.Translator,

Wednesday, November 29, 2006, 5:37:31 AM, you wrote:

AT> Alexander S. Kunz heeft uiteengezet op 28-11-2006 :
>>  I conclude that both Agava and Regula are good
>> TB plugins. Personally

AT> Can someone point me to an English installation guide for Regula?
AT> I have downloaded three files (regula.rar, regula_dpcre.rar, 
regula.mgr.rar),
AT> but can't get them to install the plugin. Always have a struggle with these
AT> rar-files.

I have not used Regula, but ...

'rar' is an 'archive' format much like 'zip' files.  You have to
'unarchive' them as you would with a zip tile.  That will give you the
plugin as well as the other 'support' files that Regula needs.  There
will likely be a 'readme' or similar file that explains where those
files need to do.


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Re[4]: Spam mail

[MikeD (2)]

Hello Paul,

Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 5:59:22 PM, you wrote:

PB> Whether you use a spam filter or not, it is handy to do 2 things:

PB> 1. Use positive filters in TB to move desired mail to separate
PB> folders. Also add a filter to move "Known" mail to a "Welcome" folder
PB> or similar name.

PB> 2. This leaves any unfiltered junk in the "Inbox", where you click on
PB> the Subject heading to sort alphabetically by subject. ( You do this
PB> only once to set it.) This makes it very quick and easy to glance
PB> through the list in case anything of value is there. The repeat
PB> subjects are together and need only be read once.


No argument from me there. I agree. My example was in response to the
specific question of how to filter out the messages that had the
' wrote:' sequence in the subject.

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Re: Spam mail

[A . Translator]

Alexander S. Kunz heeft uiteengezet op 28-11-2006 :

 I conclude that both Agava and Regula are good
TB plugins. Personally


Can someone point me to an English installation guide for Regula?
I have downloaded three files (regula.rar, regula_dpcre.rar, regula.mgr.rar), 
but can't get them to install the plugin. Always have a struggle with these 
rar-files.


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Re[3]: Spam mail

[Paul Berger]

Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 11:10:53 PM, you wrote:

M2> Hi Peter,

M2> Monday, November 27, 2006, 9:18:10 PM, you wrote:

>>> lately I get a lot of spam with the subject line:  wrote: As
>>> I hear lots of people are getting the same.

>>> Is there a way I can add a filter somewhere in the configuration
>>> that if the subject line is "wrote:" it should go to the junk mail
>>> folder.

M2> Click on 'Accounts' and select 'Filters' and click 'File' then 'New
M2> Filter.

...

Whether you use a spam filter or not, it is handy to do 2 things:

1. Use positive filters in TB to move desired mail to separate
folders. Also add a filter to move "Known" mail to a "Welcome" folder
or similar name.

2. This leaves any unfiltered junk in the "Inbox", where you click on
the Subject heading to sort alphabetically by subject. ( You do this
only once to set it.) This makes it very quick and easy to glance
through the list in case anything of value is there. The repeat
subjects are together and need only be read once.






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Re: Spam mail

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Ian A. White & everyone else,

on 28-Nov-2006 at 03:22 you (Ian A. White) wrote:

> Maybe you need something like MailWasher. Why download the message
> first and then decide? With MailWasher you decide before the message
> is downloaded to your system, and you can preview those that might
> just be genuine.

You don't need an external program mailwasher for that, you can use TB's
mail dispatcher instead (menu "Account", "Dispatch Mail on Server").

However, I find previewing messages both irrational and time consuming.
Emails are usually rather small and thus they are quickly downloaded,
usually within a couple of seconds (depending on your internet
connection). It will take an equal or larger amount of time to manually
evaluate the message with a preview/dispatcher function.

Besides the time it takes to manually preview messages and sort them,
the message headers will be downloaded anyway (with both mailwasher and
the dispatcher, doesn't matter). Depending on the type of message, the
header part may already be a large portion of the whole message. You can
download the entire message instead and have the spam filter handle it.
If you preview with Mailwasher you'll download the headers, and then
invoke TB and download the headers again (plus the message body of
course).

A good Bayes filter will take care of the offending messages after a
single training "click" in case it missed one. By the reports of people
posting to the TB lists, I conclude that both Agava and Regula are good
TB plugins. Personally, I am using K9, which is a lightweight and
reliable mail proxy with bayesian analysis, but it works only with POP3
accounts.

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Re: Spam mail

[Peter Kerekes]

Hello Peter,

Monday, November 27, 2006, 8:00:58 PM, you wrote:

Peter> Hello,

Peter> lately I get a lot of spam with the subject line:  wrote:

Peter> As I hear lots of people are getting the same. I use Bayes Filter Plugin,
Peter> for spam filter, it doesn't filter them out. Is there a way I can add a
Peter> filter somewhere in the configuration that if the subject line is 
"wrote:"
Peter> it should go to the junk mail folder.

Peter>  Thanks


It appears that after a few days Bayes spam filter trained it self, today
they all went to the Junk mail folder.

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Re[2]: Spam mail

[MikeD (2)]

Hi Peter,

Monday, November 27, 2006, 9:18:10 PM, you wrote:

>> lately I get a lot of spam with the subject line:  wrote: As
>> I hear lots of people are getting the same.

>> Is there a way I can add a filter somewhere in the configuration
>> that if the subject line is "wrote:" it should go to the junk mail
>> folder.

Click on 'Accounts' and select 'Filters' and click 'File' then 'New
Filter.

On the General tab give it a name, in the 'condition' box, select
'Subject Contains' and then add 'wrote:'.  In the "action" section,
select what you want to do ... "move to folder \\JUNK" for example.

That should do it ... but only until they change the message content
which will happen pretty soon. That is a very inefficient way to try
and keep up with spammers. The other suggestions are helpful and more
useful in the long term. I use Agava FWIW and like it. But BayesIt
worked OK for me for a number of years too ... after I trained it with
a **LOT** of email and I needed to 're-train' it once or twice a year
for some reason.

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Re: Spam mail

[Bob Morris]

G'day Peter,

Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 11:00:58 AM, you wrote:

> lately I get a lot of spam with the subject line:  wrote:

> As I hear lots of people are getting the same. I use Bayes Filter
> Plugin, for spam filter, it doesn't filter them out.




I can't help you with a filter but K9 (http://keir.net/k9.html) is
catching them all with no problems plus those stock "tips" that just
include an image and a sea of irrelevant drivel. I tried AntiSpam
Sniper for a while after someone mentioned it here but abandoned it
after a couple of months after finding it less effective than K9.

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Re: Spam mail

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Peter,

On Monday, 27 November, 2006 at 8:00:58 PM you wrote:

> lately I get a lot of spam with the subject line:  wrote:
> As I hear lots of people are getting the same.

Yes, I am receiving them, too.

> I use Bayes Filter Plugin,
> for spam filter, it doesn't filter them out.

I use AGAVA AntispamServant and they are being automatically filtered
to the junk folder. I did not have to do anything.

> Is there a way I can add a
> filter somewhere in the configuration that if the subject line is "wrote:"
> it should go to the junk mail folder.

Sorry I couldn't help with a filter.

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Spam mail

[Peter Kerekes]

Hello,

lately I get a lot of spam with the subject line:  wrote:

As I hear lots of people are getting the same. I use Bayes Filter Plugin,
for spam filter, it doesn't filter them out. Is there a way I can add a
filter somewhere in the configuration that if the subject line is "wrote:"
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Re: Spam mail and filtering them

[qe3ee]

Hello to both Alexander and Mark,

Thank  you for giving me something to start with. I will try to train my filter
further and patiently await the day when 100% is recogniced by this filter :P

If   it   doesn't   improve   I   will drop a message in the thread, for future
referance.
 

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Re: Spam mail and filtering them

[Mark Partous]

Hello qe3ee,

Sunday, June 26, 2005, 4:19:29 AM, you wrote:

q> This is added by one listserver. Excerpt from a neglected mail:

q> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63-lists.debian.org_2005_05_20_02
q> (2004-01-11) on murphy.debian.org
q> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_70,BODY_8BITS 
q> autolearn=no version=2.63-lists.debian.org_2005_05_20_02
q> X-Spam-Level: **


q> Excerpt from another:

q> X-Lycos-AS: 38.00
q> X-Lycos-AV: OK

a) to get things straight: I suppose both of the above messages were
   not Spam, or do you mean those were false-negatives ?

q> -Is this what I should try to pre-program my spamfilter to neglect?

Unless your Spam-plugin is giving you false positives, I don't know why you
should do that. Of course I'm a K9-user, I never really tried Bayes-It or
Bayes filter, since I'm using K9 for more than one mailer. So I'm not
acquainted with the way those plugins work.

I use the "X-Brightmail: Suspected Spam" header(field)(1) in a TB!-filter to
collect those messages that were not caught by K9, I do not use it to keep K9
from testing them...

I think (but others may know more about this) you should look for something
like
X-Spam-Status: Yes and
X-Lycos-AS:??  (more than 50? I don't know at what % a message is
   considered to be Spam)

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For me: not at all...

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Re: Spam mail and filtering them

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello qe3ee & everyone else,

on 26-Jun-2005 at 03:29 you (qe3ee) wrote:

ASK>> How much of a total message is the subject line? Train your Bayes
ASK>> Filter, and it'll adapt to that. May take a week or so, though.

> Will look into that!

FYI - a couple of month ago I started to get really naughty spam mails, an
HTML part with one or two javascript-encoded target links, and an
alternative text part that contained randomly collected "normal" sentences,
like in an email, or a publication, something like that.

They got thru K9 (the bayesian spam filter that I am using) regularly, but
I kept training the filter, and after one week about 50% of these were
recognized, after another week of training every message was caught. So,
just keep training the thing.

(and for 10 days now, K9 runs at 100% accuracy:-)


ASK>> Which spam filter is that?

> The Achim Winkler flavor "Bayes filter plugin"

I never used that one and can't say anything about the quality.

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Re: Spam mail and filtering them

[qe3ee]

Hello Mark Partous,

Friday, June 24, 2005, 9:49:54 PM, you wrote:


MP> Hello qe3ee,

MP> Friday, June 24, 2005, 7:44:08 PM, you wrote:

q>>   I fear I have to start all over again train that @"#%3!Ϥ filter again...
q>>   Is there a shortcut getting back on track?

MP> FWIW, since a couple of days 100% all Spam is captured.

MP> K9 did a good job before, but there was a type of spam that it couldn't
MP> catch. I was able to capture ± 50% of that sort of mails by a combination of
MP> rules.

MP> It was because I wasn't able to catch the other 50% of what K9 missed, that 
I
MP> installed SpamAnihilator. While trying it out, I saw that in the headers
MP> of those mails there was a line I didn't recognize. It was not added at the
MP> ending of the headers but at (almost) the beginning of the header-part.

MP> Turned out it was a header added by Tiscali:
MP> X-Brightmail: Suspected Spam

MP> I added a rule and since, no spam has made it trough the combination.

MP> Perhaps not a solution for you, but, what if you discovered your provider is
MP> adding such a header too?   :-)


This is added by one listserver. Excerpt from a neglected mail:

X-Rc-Spam: 2005-03-31_01
X-Rc-Virus: 2005-02-17_01
X-Rc-Spam: 2005-03-31_01
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63-lists.debian.org_2005_05_20_02 
(2004-01-11) on murphy.debian.org
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_70,BODY_8BITS 
autolearn=no version=2.63-lists.debian.org_2005_05_20_02
X-Spam-Level: **

Excerpt from another:

X-Lycos-AS: 38.00
X-Lycos-AV: OK

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Re: Spam mail and filtering them

[qe3ee]

Hello Alexander S. Kunz,

Friday, June 24, 2005, 9:00:24 PM, you wrote:

ASK> How much of a total message is the subject line? Train your Bayes Filter,
ASK> and it'll adapt to that. May take a week or so, though.

Will look into that!

ASK> Which spam filter is that?

The Achim Winkler flavor "Bayes filter plugin"

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Re: Spam mail and filtering them

[Mark Partous]

Hello qe3ee,

Friday, June 24, 2005, 7:44:08 PM, you wrote:

q>   I fear I have to start all over again train that @"#%3!Ϥ filter again...
q>   Is there a shortcut getting back on track?

FWIW, since a couple of days 100% all Spam is captured.

K9 did a good job before, but there was a type of spam that it couldn't
catch. I was able to capture ± 50% of that sort of mails by a combination of
rules.

It was because I wasn't able to catch the other 50% of what K9 missed, that I
installed SpamAnihilator. While trying it out, I saw that in the headers
of those mails there was a line I didn't recognize. It was not added at the
ending of the headers but at (almost) the beginning of the header-part.

Turned out it was a header added by Tiscali:
X-Brightmail: Suspected Spam

I added a rule and since, no spam has made it trough the combination.

Perhaps not a solution for you, but, what if you discovered your provider is
adding such a header too?   :-)

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Re: Spam mail and filtering them

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello qe3ee & everyone else,

on 24-Jun-2005 at 19:44 you (qe3ee) wrote:

> Have anyone in the group had any studies on how the bayesian
> spamfiltering priciple is affected by errantly spelled emails

No problem. You'll have a genuine mail when "Viagra" is spelled as it
should be there. Spam mails don't spell it like that.


> and "hi-jacking" the email subjectlines?

How much of a total message is the subject line? Train your Bayes Filter,
and it'll adapt to that. May take a week or so, though.


> I have lately seen how my spamfilter is getting less efficient.

Which spam filter is that?


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Spam mail and filtering them

[qe3ee]

Hello wonderful tbudl,

  Have  anyone  in the group had any studies on how the bayesian spamfiltering
  priciple   is   affected   by  errantly  spelled  emails and "hi-jacking" the
  email subjectlines?

  I  have  lately  seen  how my spamfilter is getting less efficient. I wounder
  whither  the  filteringmodel  will  be  affected negatively by the increasing
  amount  of "unique" spelling in certain  mails.
  (Including this one :P )
  
  Also  I've  seen some spamers use the lists most common subjectlines.
  (for example: #Bugreport 123456789 bla bla bla) as it infact may be a 
spammail.
  I  have  tried  to train my bayesian mailfilter made by Achim Winkler to sort
  such mails out but not been successful - yet...

  I fear I have to start all over again train that @"#%3!Ϥ filter again...
  Is there a shortcut getting back on track?

  -Oh! I allmost forgot. I have blended subscriptions to various discusionlists
  in  different  languages  in  subfolders.  How  have you seen this affect the
  filtering efficiency in your cases.


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Re: Suggestion re spam mail

[tracer]

Hello David

> Hello David,
> If you have any more creative filters for jumping off points, I could
> sure use the nudge. Just getting started here, but spam drives me
> crazy too!
> With compliments,
> Skie Dansforth

I added both as separate filters as the last ones in my set of filters
and the result was that any mail without a special destination went
into my spam box
I must have done something wrong(g) I guess
Its not a complaint but if nobody else has mentioned this, drop me a
not off line
I tend to filter all my mail into specific boxes so that maybe 10 or
so are left over in the inbox.
I also refiltered my inbox (as it had grown to about 1000 emails which
didnt have a special place ) and the whole lot went happily to my spam
box...



Best regards,
 
tracer


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Re[2]: Suggestion re spam mail

[Skie]

Hello David,
If you have any more creative filters for jumping off points, I could
sure use the nudge. Just getting started here, but spam drives me
crazy too!
With compliments,
Skie Dansforth

Sunday, August 13, 2000, 9:55:47 AM, you wrote:


DP> Sunday, August 13, 2000, 11:43:57 AM, you wrote:


JP>> Hi fellow Bat! fans,

JP>>   In Gravity News Reader there is a "bozo bin" option to dump a sender
JP>>   without making a filter.  Each bozo can be edited as to length of
JP>>   the bozo bin filter etc.

JP>>   I am getting more & more spam these days, and I am sure this idea
JP>>   would help a lot of Bat! users, or is there another way to handle
JP>>   these pests?


DP> Do you ever get two spams from the same email address though? It
DP> rarely happens because the from address is almost always fake. This is
DP> useful on newsgroups for ignoring people, but less useful for spam. A
DP> better idea is to pick some creative filters.

DP> I have two filters:

DP> A lot of spam mentions some supposed email bill, so this works nicely

DP> 1) Location: Text
DP>String: Section 301
DP>Presence: Yes
DP>Move messages to: spam
DP>Set colour to: brown

DP> A lot of spam gets sent directly to my ISPs server, usually from
DP> someone on a dial-up, using software that does DNS lookups on email
DP> addresses and telnets into the destination server directly.  These
DP> emails will only have a single "Received" header usually.  It excludes
DP> email from my ISP which might legitimately only have one Received
DP> header, and notifications about large attachments from The Bat.

DP> 2) Location: Kludges
DP>String: ((?s)Received.*){2,}
DP>Presence: No

DP>and

DP>Location: Sender
DP>String: (.*freeserve.*)|(Bat)
DP>Presence: No

DP>Use regular expressions.
DP>Action as above

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Re: Suggestion re spam mail

[David Powell]

Sunday, August 13, 2000, 11:43:57 AM, you wrote:


JP> Hi fellow Bat! fans,

JP>   In Gravity News Reader there is a "bozo bin" option to dump a sender
JP>   without making a filter.  Each bozo can be edited as to length of
JP>   the bozo bin filter etc.

JP>   I am getting more & more spam these days, and I am sure this idea
JP>   would help a lot of Bat! users, or is there another way to handle
JP>   these pests?


Do you ever get two spams from the same email address though? It
rarely happens because the from address is almost always fake. This is
useful on newsgroups for ignoring people, but less useful for spam. A
better idea is to pick some creative filters.

I have two filters:

A lot of spam mentions some supposed email bill, so this works nicely

1) Location: Text
   String: Section 301
   Presence: Yes
   Move messages to: spam
   Set colour to: brown

A lot of spam gets sent directly to my ISPs server, usually from
someone on a dial-up, using software that does DNS lookups on email
addresses and telnets into the destination server directly.  These
emails will only have a single "Received" header usually.  It excludes
email from my ISP which might legitimately only have one Received
header, and notifications about large attachments from The Bat.

2) Location: Kludges
   String: ((?s)Received.*){2,}
   Presence: No

   and

   Location: Sender
   String: (.*freeserve.*)|(Bat)
   Presence: No

   Use regular expressions.
   Action as above

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Suggestion re spam mail

[John Phillips]

Hi fellow Bat! fans,

  In Gravity News Reader there is a "bozo bin" option to dump a sender
  without making a filter.  Each bozo can be edited as to length of
  the bozo bin filter etc.

  I am getting more & more spam these days, and I am sure this idea
  would help a lot of Bat! users, or is there another way to handle
  these pests?

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Cute and definitely huggable.right.

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