Summary of v3?
Hello TBUDLers, Having tired of reading the many-and-rambling threads on v3, would somebody who has had the time please summarise: 1) The issues/bugs 2) Any info from RIT about licensing issues I know many TBUDLers are unhappy with the affair (and some aren't), but has there been *any* response from RIT about all this? -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Summary of v3?
On Sunday, September 5, 2004 @ 2:03:44 PM, Allister Jenks wrote: [snips] Allister I know many TBUDLers are unhappy with the affair (and some aren't), but Allister has there been *any* response from RIT about all this? If you want a 50-50 chance of: a) no reply at all, or b) a smartarse reply email them off their site. (Actually, it seems to be about 80-20.) -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) To be tested is good. The challenged life may be the best therapist. Gail Sheehy Writer Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Summary of v3?
Hello Allister, On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 18:03:44 +1200 GMT (05/09/2004, 13:03 +0700 GMT), Allister Jenks wrote: AJ 1) The issues/bugs I not only still get these 100%-CPU-usage freezings, they have become worse, to the extent that I cannot upgrade until this particualr problem is solved. I have had this problem for a few versions, but with 2.13b1 it became this extrem, and it hasn't been fixed. That said, even though it is a show-stopper for myself (on the Win98 machine at home), there are only very few users confirming this. Others report memory leaks, which again cannot be confirmed by all. Problems with the new filtering system are still being reported on TBBETA. Nevertheless, many have reported that they have no problems. In summary, you may be lucky. -- Cheers, Thomas. Chrysler: The Mercedes-Benz of American Cars Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Summary of v3?
Sunday, September 5, 2004, 8:34:05 AM, Thomas Fernandez ( mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote in part: TF I not only still get these 100%-CPU-usage freezings, they have become TF worse, [ .. ] I can confirm that this same problem is true here. TF Others report memory leaks, which again cannot be confirmed by all. That is true here also and has been ongoing since 2.11beta6, or there about. Somehow I missed previous post concerning this issue here and on TBBETA and assumed that it was my local problem. Due to CPU usage and /or memory leaks, my message list in TheBat! is becoming corrupted on program open, to the extent that TheBat! will assign the same 'Received' and 'Created' date for 50 or 60 of the oldest messages in a particular folder / account while leaving the 'From', 'To:', and 'Subject' fields blank, and move them to top of my message list with the current calendar dates. I have purchased TheBat! 3.0 Professional and can assure you that this / these problems have / has not yet been addressed. I'm a bit more than disgruntled at Ritlabs. In all fairness to Ritlabs though, all the 'cutesy' stuff works great. -- Cheers, Pank Floyd. ___ PGP Key: http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TheBat! 3.0 on Windows ME 4, Build 3000, 256.0 MB Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Summary of v3?
Hello Thomas, Sunday, September 5, 2004, 7:34:05 AM, you wrote: TF Allister Jenks wrote: AJ 1) The issues/bugs TF I not only still get these 100%-CPU-usage freezings, they have become TF worse, to the extent that I cannot upgrade until this particualr TF problem is solved. I have had this problem for a few versions, but TF with 2.13b1 it became this extrem, and it hasn't been fixed. TF That said, even though it is a show-stopper for myself (on the Win98 TF machine at home), there are only very few users confirming this. I am one of those that does not have this problem with Windows 98 and Version 3, nor am I having problems with the HTML error. Perhaps we can compare configurations. TF Others report memory leaks, which again cannot be confirmed by all. Can't confirm or deny this, how are you testing. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.0 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Summary of v3?
Hello Stuart, On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 09:45:17 -0500 GMT (05/09/2004, 21:45 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: TF I not only still get these 100%-CPU-usage freezings, they have become TF worse, SC I am one of those that does not have this problem with Windows 98 and Version 3, SC nor am I having problems with the HTML error. Perhaps we can compare SC configurations. I wouldn't know about the HTML editor. I used it once for testing only. I use a Pentium 4 with 1,7GHz, 512MB RAM, Chinese Windows 98. What else do you need to compare? TF Others report memory leaks, which again cannot be confirmed by all. SC Can't confirm or deny this, how are you testing. I have a tool called MPower. Another tool for Win9x, authored by Microsoft, was recommended on this list a few days ago. -- Cheers, Thomas. Thursday at 5:00 PM there will be a meeting of the Ladies Little Mothers Club. All wishing to become little mothers, please see the minister in his study. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Summary of v3?
Hi Pank, Sunday, September 5, 2004, 3:14:01 PM, you wrote: Pank Sunday, September 5, 2004, 8:34:05 AM, Thomas Fernandez Pank ( mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote in part: TF I not only still get these 100%-CPU-usage freezings, they have become TF worse, [ .. ] Pank I can confirm that this same problem is true here. TF Others report memory leaks, which again cannot be confirmed by all. Pank That is true here also and has been ongoing since 2.11beta6, or there Pank about. Somehow I missed previous post concerning this issue here and Pank on TBBETA and assumed that it was my local problem. No problems with XP Pro SP1 here. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Summary of v3?
Sunday, September 5, 2004, 11:05:21 AM, Doug Weller ( mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote in part: Pank That is true here also and has been ongoing since 2.11beta6, or there Pank about. DW No problems with XP Pro SP1 here. And it seems that users using / above Win2K don't have this problem, but I don't have a clue why a 32 bit Win OS would be a factor, if it is. -- Cheers, Pank Floyd. _ PGP Key: http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TheBat! 3.0 on Windows ME 4, Build 3000, 256 MB Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Summary of v3?
Hello Thomas, Sunday, September 5, 2004, 9:54:47 AM, you wrote: TF Stuart Cuddy wrote: TF I not only still get these 100%-CPU-usage freezings, they have become TF worse, SC I am one of those that does not have this problem with Windows 98 and Version 3, SC nor am I having problems with the HTML error. Perhaps we can compare SC configurations. TF I wouldn't know about the HTML editor. I used it once for testing TF only. I don't usually use it either. I was referring to the message that keeps popping up when reading e-mail that says: ,- [ Invalid HTML ! ] | Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EAccessViolation | Access violation at address 00403EEF in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of | address 03291000 `- TF I use a Pentium 4 with 1,7GHz, 512MB RAM, Chinese Windows 98. What TF else do you need to compare? Do you use plugins? Which ones? Here I have: My Macros 1.06a Vampire X 160-02-04 BayesIt 0.6.00 X-Face 1.2 Do you have any .tmp files on your drive that have not been deleted by The Bat! ? I have to manually do this occasionally to clean up these files. Do you use RTV or PTV. I use the RTV. What AntiVirus do you use? I use Avast here and AVG at home. Do you use lots of Virtual Folders, I only have a few and they are mostly the fast search type. Do you use many filters that filter on Message Source as opposed to headers, which use less overhead? What Browser do you use? I am still stuck with Internet Explorer, but I notice many use Firefox and they are often reporting problems with two windows opening when clicking on HTML links. Maybe its related. I don't know what else, I'm just attempting to find out a pattern as to why some people have these problems and not others. Maybe the developers can suggest where we might look. TF Others report memory leaks, which again cannot be confirmed by all. SC Can't confirm or deny this, how are you testing. TF I have a tool called MPower. Another tool for Win9x, authored by TF Microsoft, was recommended on this list a few days ago. Will give this a try. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.0 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Summary of v3?
Hello Stuart, On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:18:13 -0500 GMT (06/09/2004, 00:18 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: TF I wouldn't know about the HTML editor. I used it once for testing TF only. SC I don't usually use it either. I was referring to the message that SC keeps popping up when reading e-mail that says: SC ,- [ Invalid HTML ! ] I haven't seen that since an early 2.x beta. TF I use a Pentium 4 with 1,7GHz, 512MB RAM, Chinese Windows 98. What TF else do you need to compare? SC Do you use plugins? Which ones? SCHere I have: My Macros 1.06a SC Vampire X 160-02-04 SC BayesIt 0.6.00 SC X-Face 1.2 None of those. The only plugin I use is MyGate to port newsgroups to TB. SC Do you have any .tmp files on your drive that have not been deleted by SC The Bat! ? I have to manually do this occasionally to clean up these SC files. I delete them on a regular basis. Even if I have none, delays occur. SC Do you use RTV or PTV. I use the RTV. PTV. SC What AntiVirus do you use? PC-Cillin, but the realtime check is off. SC Do you use lots of Virtual Folders, I only have a few and they are SC mostly the fast search type. I had one called flagged and it dhowed all flagged message. I have deleted that already, with no improvement. SC Do you use many filters that filter on Message Source as opposed to SC headers, which use less overhead? The filter are Incoming filters and are applied when the messages arrive. This cannot have any influence on how long it takes to open a folder. SC What Browser do you use? I am still stuck with Internet Explorer, Same here. CrazyBrowser, a skin for IE6. SC but I notice many use Firefox and they are often reporting SC problems with two windows opening when clicking on HTML links. SC Maybe its related. Don't think so. SC I don't know what else, I'm just attempting to find out a pattern as SC to why some people have these problems and not others. Maybe the SC developers can suggest where we might look. Yes, or other users can confirm. -- Cheers, Thomas. Rechnen Sie mit robotron! Unsere Mikroelektronik ist einfach nicht klein zu kriegen! Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Summary of v3?
SC I don't usually use it either. I was referring to the message that SC keeps popping up when reading e-mail that says: SC ,- [ Invalid HTML ! ] TF I haven't seen that since an early 2.x beta. TF I use a Pentium 4 with 1,7GHz, 512MB RAM, Chinese Windows 98. What TF else do you need to compare? SC Do you use plugins? Which ones? SCHere I have: My Macros 1.06a SC Vampire X 160-02-04 SC BayesIt 0.6.00 SC X-Face 1.2 TF None of those. The only plugin I use is MyGate to port newsgroups to TF TB. SC Do you have any .tmp files on your drive that have not been deleted by SC The Bat! ? I have to manually do this occasionally to clean up these SC files. TF I delete them on a regular basis. Even if I have none, delays occur. SC Do you use RTV or PTV. I use the RTV. TF PTV. SC What AntiVirus do you use? TF PC-Cillin, but the realtime check is off. SC Do you use lots of Virtual Folders, I only have a few and they are SC mostly the fast search type. TF I had one called flagged and it dhowed all flagged message. I have TF deleted that already, with no improvement. SC Do you use many filters that filter on Message Source as opposed to SC headers, which use less overhead? TF The filter are Incoming filters and are applied when the messages TF arrive. This cannot have any influence on how long it takes to open a TF folder. SC What Browser do you use? I am still stuck with Internet Explorer, TF Same here. CrazyBrowser, a skin for IE6. SC but I notice many use Firefox and they are often reporting SC problems with two windows opening when clicking on HTML links. SC Maybe its related. TF Don't think so. SC I don't know what else, I'm just attempting to find out a pattern as SC to why some people have these problems and not others. Maybe the SC developers can suggest where we might look. TF Yes, or other users can confirm. How about Bat users. Do your setups compare with either of these and do you have the problems with memory usage, memory leaks or HTML error. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.0 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
