Re: : : TB 3.01 Installer
Hi On Sunday, 17 October, 2004, at 6:22:48 PM, Perry Nelson wrote: > Hi Jeff, > Sunday, October 17, 2004, 1:06:46 PM, you wrote: > I did notice that I don't have the same properties screens available > for *.zip and *.pdf files as I do for *.exe files. There doesn't seem > to be a Summary tab for those. For *.exe I have General, Version, Compatibility, Virus Property, Summary. For *.zip and *.pdf I have General, Virus Property, Summary. For *.msi: General, Digital Signatures, Custom, Virus Property, Summary. YMMV ;-) -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: : TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Allie, > What's even nicer is that you can display these comments in Explorer's > details view. Enable details view and then right click the details view > list colum header bar. From the menu, select comments. All you comments > are displayed. Pretty much like TB!'s memo view. :) > > I think you can search on this attribute as well. Thanks again, I didn't know that either. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:: : TB 3.01 Installer
Hi Jeff, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 1:06:46 PM, you wrote: AM>>> Right click the download and look at the properities. You'll see a AM>>> summaries tab. You can type what you wish under Comments. >> Well, sonofagun, so it does! >> Also thanks for your extended comment to Miguel. That pretty well >> meets all the needs I had envisioned. Super! JG> Don't forget you lose all the data on re-install of the OS - unless JG> anybody has found a way to save it? Thanks for the warning. I can live with that limitation, since my primary need is to be able to remember what the program I have recently downloaded does. However, if anyone out there has found a way to save the data, I would like to know about that. I did notice that I don't have the same properties screens available for *.zip and *.pdf files as I do for *.exe files. There doesn't seem to be a Summary tab for those. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: : TB 3.01 Installer
On 17/10/2004 at 12:03:49 PM, Perry Nelson, [PN] wrote: > Well, sonofagun, so it does! Thanks, Allie. It had never occurred to > me to look for that feature. And here, I thought I had come up with > something new! One thing I've noted. Anything, you think of, it's highly unlikely that someone else hasn't thought about it. :) > Also thanks for your extended comment to Miguel. That pretty well > meets all the needs I had envisioned. Super! I actually checked to make sure that it could actually be done. I discovered that my file manager Directory Opus can be made to display that column as well. I didn't really use the feature because I wasn't sure that Directory Opus could display the information. It can, so my thanks to you for bringing it up! :) -- -= Allie =- . Did you expect mere proof to sway my opinion? __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:: : TB 3.01 Installer
Hi Jeff, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 11:29:30 AM, you wrote: JG> I've re-named the latest d/l and will try to discipline myself for JG> the future :-) Sorry, I have no tricks that can ensure discipline. ;-) -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: : TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Group On Sunday, October 17, 2004, 6:03:49 PM, wrote: > Hi Allie, > Sunday, October 17, 2004, 11:33:45 AM, you wrote: >>> What I'd really like to see though is for the OS to provide some way >>> to enter a narrative description of each DL as metadata ... AM>> XP does this for you. AM>> Right click the download and look at the properities. You'll see a AM>> summaries tab. You can type what you wish under Comments. > Well, sonofagun, so it does! Thanks, Allie. It had never occurred to > me to look for that feature. And here, I thought I had come up with > something new! > Also thanks for your extended comment to Miguel. That pretty well > meets all the needs I had envisioned. Super! Don't forget you lose all the data on re-install of the OS - unless anybody has found a way to save it? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:: TB 3.01 Installer
Hi Allie, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 11:33:45 AM, you wrote: >> What I'd really like to see though is for the OS to provide some way >> to enter a narrative description of each DL as metadata ... AM> XP does this for you. AM> Right click the download and look at the properities. You'll see a AM> summaries tab. You can type what you wish under Comments. Well, sonofagun, so it does! Thanks, Allie. It had never occurred to me to look for that feature. And here, I thought I had come up with something new! Also thanks for your extended comment to Miguel. That pretty well meets all the needs I had envisioned. Super! -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: : TB 3.01 Installer
On 17/10/2004 at 10:57:35 AM, Miguel Urech, [MU] wrote: >> Right click the download and look at the properities. You'll see a >> summaries tab. You can type what you wish under Comments. > Nice, I didn't know this. Works with Win2K also. What's even nicer is that you can display these comments in Explorer's details view. Enable details view and then right click the details view list colum header bar. From the menu, select comments. All you comments are displayed. Pretty much like TB!'s memo view. :) I think you can search on this attribute as well. -- -= Allie =- . Oxymoron: Sweet sorrow. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: : TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Allie, > XP does this for you. > > Right click the download and look at the properities. You'll see a > summaries tab. You can type what you wish under Comments. Nice, I didn't know this. Works with Win2K also. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: : TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Group On Sunday, October 17, 2004, 1:27:19 PM, wrote: > Hi Jeff, > Sunday, October 17, 2004, 5:34:25 AM, you wrote: JG>> It would be nice if the installer had a version number tacked on the JG>> end. I've lost track of the number I have and can't tell which is JG>> which :-) > I know what you mean. > My own practice is to alter the filename (not the extension) when I'm > downloading something that may have a non-specific name such as > setup.exe, so that it says something like setup_Program-A_ver_1-0.exe > before saving it. That way I can at least know what the program is and > which version I have downloaded. > What I'd really like to see though is for the OS to provide some way > to enter a narrative description of each DL as metadata so that I > could enter a paragraph of information about each thing I download and > what motivated me to do so. There are some programs, I know, like > Total Commander for example, that provide the option to enter a > one-line description, but that's not quite the same thing. I am not, > however, optimistic that the option to enter metadata tags about > downloads is on the horizon. I've written an app (in C#) which extends the Explorer context menu so that you can keep file notes in an Access database. Only problem is now that I've got it working I rarely remember it's there - and it needs unique file names to work. I've re-named the latest d/l and will try to discipline myself for the future :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: : TB 3.01 Installer
On 17/10/2004 at 7:27:19 AM, Perry Nelson, [PN] wrote: > What I'd really like to see though is for the OS to provide some way > to enter a narrative description of each DL as metadata so that I > could enter a paragraph of information about each thing I download > and what motivated me to do so. XP does this for you. Right click the download and look at the properities. You'll see a summaries tab. You can type what you wish under Comments. -- -= Allie =- . How many of you believe in telekinesis? Raise MY hand! __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:: TB 3.01 Installer
Hi Jeff, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 5:34:25 AM, you wrote: JG> It would be nice if the installer had a version number tacked on the JG> end. I've lost track of the number I have and can't tell which is JG> which :-) I know what you mean. My own practice is to alter the filename (not the extension) when I'm downloading something that may have a non-specific name such as setup.exe, so that it says something like setup_Program-A_ver_1-0.exe before saving it. That way I can at least know what the program is and which version I have downloaded. What I'd really like to see though is for the OS to provide some way to enter a narrative description of each DL as metadata so that I could enter a paragraph of information about each thing I download and what motivated me to do so. There are some programs, I know, like Total Commander for example, that provide the option to enter a one-line description, but that's not quite the same thing. I am not, however, optimistic that the option to enter metadata tags about downloads is on the horizon. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Wayne, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 8:39:36 AM, you wrote: WH> re: TB 3.01 Installer: SC>> If you right click on the .msi file and look at the properties, you SC>> should be able to determine which version will be installed. WH> The problem is that they have not entered version numbers in here (at WH> least in the version I just downloaded the other day). That's odd I thought they had some info entered in previous versions. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Stuart, On Sunday, October 17, 2004, at 8:59:07 AM, you wrote re: TB 3.01 Installer: SC> If you right click on the .msi file and look at the properties, you SC> should be able to determine which version will be installed. The problem is that they have not entered version numbers in here (at least in the version I just downloaded the other day). -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.0.1.33 Directory Opus 8: "the premier file manager for Windows" Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Stuart Cuddy & everyone else 17-Okt-2004 14:59, you wrote: > If you right click on the .msi file and look at the properties, you > should be able to determine which version will be installed. Hmmm, I haven't found that information, only the date and the certificate of RL. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 without smilies :-P The cracking sound of a snapped whip is a mini sonic boom, breaking the sound barrier by attaining speeds of up to 700 miles per hour. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Stuart, On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:59:07 -0500 GMT (17/10/2004, 19:59 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: JG>> It would be nice if the installer had a version number tacked on the JG>> end. I've lost track of the number I have and can't tell which is JG>> which :-) SC> If you right click on the .msi file and look at the properties, you SC> should be able to determine which version will be installed. I have renamed the file so that it won't be overwritten when I download the next version. Just in case I want to go back to the previous version later on. -- Cheers, Thomas. Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Jeff, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 4:34:25 AM, you wrote: JG> It would be nice if the installer had a version number tacked on the JG> end. I've lost track of the number I have and can't tell which is JG> which :-) If you right click on the .msi file and look at the properties, you should be able to determine which version will be installed. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Group On Saturday, October 16, 2004, 7:13:09 PM, wrote: > Hallo Bill, > On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:34:59 -0700GMT (16-10-2004, 19:34 +0200, where > I live), you wrote: BM>> After getting the e-mail from Ritlabs announcing the availability of 3.01, I BM>> went to the download page and discovered that even though the page shows the BM>> size of each version of The Bat!, what I actually get when downloading the home BM>> edition is a tiny .msi file and NOT the actual program itself! > The links on the homepage talk about archives 8.4 and 4.5 MB big and > that's what I got. For the rest you don't need anything. It would be nice if the installer had a version number tacked on the end. I've lost track of the number I have and can't tell which is which :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.01 Installer
On Sat, 2004-10-16, Jonathan Angliss wrote: > On Saturday, October 16, 2004, Bill McQuillan wrote... >> After getting the e-mail from Ritlabs announcing the availability of 3.01, I >> went to the download page and discovered that even though the page shows the >> size of each version of The Bat!, what I actually get when downloading the home >> edition is a tiny .msi file and NOT the actual program itself! > Not entirely sure what you are after. The .msi file is the installer, > the executable is contained within the installer. It is not on the web > site. MSI files can be created in a number of ways, one of them is a > web installer, but the method TB developers use is the installer > contains the executable file. To test this, disconnect any connection > from the internet, and try the install. I tried to download it again and it seems to have worked this time, sorry :-( The first time, either Internet Explorer failed to copy it entirely, or I managed to try when it was in flux on the website. Thanks for your responses anyway. -- Bill McQuillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600-Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.01 Installer
On Saturday, October 16, 2004, Bill McQuillan wrote... > After getting the e-mail from Ritlabs announcing the availability of 3.01, I > went to the download page and discovered that even though the page shows the > size of each version of The Bat!, what I actually get when downloading the home > edition is a tiny .msi file and NOT the actual program itself! Not entirely sure what you are after. The .msi file is the installer, the executable is contained within the installer. It is not on the web site. MSI files can be created in a number of ways, one of them is a web installer, but the method TB developers use is the installer contains the executable file. To test this, disconnect any connection from the internet, and try the install. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 I love deadlines. I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they go flying by. pgpw578fn74IL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.01 Installer
Hallo Bill, On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:34:59 -0700GMT (16-10-2004, 19:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BM> After getting the e-mail from Ritlabs announcing the availability of 3.01, I BM> went to the download page and discovered that even though the page shows the BM> size of each version of The Bat!, what I actually get when downloading the home BM> edition is a tiny .msi file and NOT the actual program itself! The links on the homepage talk about archives 8.4 and 4.5 MB big and that's what I got. For the rest you don't need anything. -- Groetjes, Roelof I love my country; it's my government that scares me. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpPvcCjWrTW5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 3.01 Installer
After getting the e-mail from Ritlabs announcing the availability of 3.01, I went to the download page and discovered that even though the page shows the size of each version of The Bat!, what I actually get when downloading the home edition is a tiny .msi file and NOT the actual program itself! Since I am not, in any sense, an early-adopter (see my sig :-) ), I would like to be able to store the actual version of any program I am installing so that I do not have to rely on Ritlabs to maintain the current version on their website for the benefit of the installer stub. Is there a way to get the actual program that installs itself for TB 3.01 so that I can archive it? -- Bill McQuillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600-Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
