Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:06:08 +1000 GMT (28/07/2008, 10:06 +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW This is drifting, but unfortunately you have to catch some of these IAW mongrels out. I am owed over $12,500 by one client (due almost a year IAW ago) who refuses to acknowledge anything. He

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:51 +1000 GMT (24/07/2008, 11:32 +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW I think that people have missed the point here. IAW MSGTAG is extremely useful in business where it is important that IAW messages are shown to have been received. I am working on a

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-27 Thread MFPA
Hi On Thursday 24 July 2008 at 5:32:51 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ian A. White wrote: MSGTAG is extremely useful in business where it is important that messages are shown to have been received. I am working on a contract at the moment where those receiving e-mails are required to

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-27 Thread Jens Franik
am Sonntag, 27. Juli 2008 um 19:41 schrieb MFPA: Just because the email was displayed it does not mean the relevant person read or saw it. At work, Outlook displays the most recent message in the inbox when you start it up. You won't necessarily read it then (or ever) and in that case could

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-27 Thread Gene Brown
On Sunday, July 27, 2008, 1:41:06 PM, you wrote: But registered allows you to prove the addressee received the item. Actually, it doesn't. All it shows is that they received the package. Here's today's mail, Ma'am. And look at that funny cartoon that came as a registered letter. -- Running

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-27 Thread MFPA
Hi On Sunday 27 July 2008 at 6:50:27 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jens Franik wrote: There for the Settings or the Code of _this_ Program is broken, Broken Settings or not, M$ Outlook is a very widely used email application. And I have not encountered any piece of software that can tell

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-27 Thread MFPA
Hi On Sunday 27 July 2008 at 7:55:25 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Gene Brown wrote: On Sunday, July 27, 2008, 1:41:06 PM, you wrote: But registered allows you to prove the addressee received the item. Actually, it doesn't. All it shows is that they received the package. Which is often

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-27 Thread Jens Franik
am Sonntag, 27. Juli 2008 um 23:34 schrieb Ian A. White: Back to the subject, I don't know whether MSGTAG is necessarily the best answer. At the moment it seems to be one that does work in most situations and I was wondering if there was a plugin to allow it to be turned on or off when

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA, On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:41:06 +0100 GMT (28/07/2008, 00:41 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: Only invoices e-mailed to the accounts departments are of any use M Why? Surely you would have to sue the company as a legal entity, not M the accounts department. Becasue invoices often get filed

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ian, On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:34:36 +1000 GMT (28/07/2008, 04:34 +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW Personal meetings are great, but they have to be minuted otherwise IAW there is still no evidence that anything was seen or what took place. That is corret. The minutes, which need to be

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-24 Thread Jens Franik
am Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2008 um 06:01 schrieb Bill McQuillan: However, if I happen to examine the raw message text (I'm nosy), and I notice that you tried to invade my privacy, I will long remember that you are nosy (and sneaky) too. This hit on your reputation (with me) *could* be

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:57:29 +0200 GMT (23/07/2008, 14:57 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: MP No, only the receiver must use HTML viewing. PH what exactly is the sense of such a program if it depends on the settings of PH the receivers email software? You will never know more than

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-23 Thread Jens Franik
am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008 um 12:52 schrieb Thomas Fernandez: MP No, only the receiver must use HTML viewing. PH what exactly is the sense of such a program if it depends on the settings of PH the receivers email software? You will never know more than the receiver PH hasn't either read the

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-23 Thread MFPA
Hi On Wednesday 23 July 2008 at 12:21:43 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jens Franik wrote: The fundamental guess is: Most of the Users (most of your Receipients) use normal Mail Clients which are able to Display HTML. And a further guess is that many have not bothered to switch to a plain

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-23 Thread Bill McQuillan
On Wed, 2008-07-23, Thomas Fernandez wrote: If I get a Read Confirmation back, I know the message has been dispalyed. If I don't get one, I know as little as if I hadn't requested it. So, nothing is lost. Well, if you send such a message to me, I will probably never know it since I use TB

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Ian, Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 1:40:29 PM, you wrote: IAW I need to use MSGTAG when I send business e-mails and it would be nice IAW to be able to turn it on or off from a macro. Does anyone know if IAW there is a plugin for MSTGAG and The Bat!? I use it. There's no need for a plugin.

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Ian, Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 2:15:36 PM, you wrote: IAW I was wondering if there was a plugin that would it to be turned on or IAW off based on a macro in a template. At the moment if I turn it on and IAW forget to turn it off, I am certain that there would be comments on it IAW in

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Partous
Hello, Citing myself once more: MP AAMOF I have now added thebat.dutaint.com to the tagging off group and will MP be sending this message with MSGTAG turned ON. MP We'll see if that works. :-) It seems to have worked. The little arrow in the tray icon starts to move, but immediately stops

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-22 Thread Jens Franik
am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2008 um 14:42 schrieb Mark Partous: AAMOF I have now added thebat.dutaint.com to the tagging off group and will be sending this message with MSGTAG turned ON. What exactly does MSGTAG do? In my fantasie, i would guess it only adds a special Null-Graphic to HTML Mails

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Jens, Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 8:39:40 PM, you wrote: JF What exactly does MSGTAG do? In my fantasie, i would guess it only adds JF a special Null-Graphic to HTML Mails to track the opening of Mails? Yes, although one can also choose to show a message stating MSGTAG was used to track the

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Ian, Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 12:05:44 AM, you wrote: IAW Are you saying that both parties must use HTML viewing for MSGTAG to IAW work? It's just that in my testing I have received MSGTAG receipts IAW when sending and viewing text only e-mails. No, only the receiver must use HTML

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-22 Thread Jens Franik
am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008 um 00:02 schrieb Ian A. White: I see the Status version has the grouping function and I may go to that. The issue I have though is that it becomes a little redundant to do this in yet another program, although that may be what has to be done. I was hoping to be

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-22 Thread Jens Franik
am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008 um 00:05 schrieb Ian A. White: MP Of course if the addressee doesn't use html viewing, nothing the MP sender still has no confirmation... Are you saying that both parties must use HTML viewing for MSGTAG to work? It's just that in my testing I have received MSGTAG

Re: The Bat and MSGTAG

2008-07-22 Thread Jens Franik
am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008 um 00:15 schrieb Mark Partous: IAW Are you saying that both parties must use HTML viewing for MSGTAG to IAW work? It's just that in my testing I have received MSGTAG receipts IAW when sending and viewing text only e-mails. No, only the receiver must use HTML