Hello Nick,
It was foretold that on Sunday, December 30, 2001 at 9:45 PM, Nick
Andriash [NA] would type:
NA In my estimation, we could resolve a lot of this simply by providing
NA User definable Toolbars,
I know it would be nice, but could you imagine the support horror if
that were
Hi Januk,
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 01:06:49 -0800GMT (31/12/01, 17:06 +0800GMT),
Januk Aggarwal wrote:
NA In my estimation, we could resolve a lot of this simply by providing
NA User definable Toolbars,
JA I know it would be nice, but could you imagine the support horror if
JA that were
Hello Thomas,
Historians believe that Monday, December 31, 2001 at 17:17 GMT +0800
was when, Thomas F [TF] typed the following:
TF Hmmm. It seems you are not using any software with configurable
TF toolbars. There exist a lot.
Not quite. I just don't change too much in software that is
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:51:35 +0800, Thomas F [TF] graced us with these
comments:
...
TF IMHO this is quite a reasonable suggestion. However, I wouldn't
TF change the whole interface to hide advances functions, but rather
TF move advanced funtions under an Advanced... menu item in each
TF menu.
Hello Januk Aggarwal,
On Monday, December 31 2001 at 01:06 AM PDT, you wrote:
I know it would be nice, but could you imagine the support horror if
that were implemented? Every person could have different menus, so
there would be no way of telling them how to find the feature they
Hello Allie,
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 06:53:05 -0500 GMT (31/12/2001, 19:53 +0800 GMT),
Allie C Martin wrote:
TF move advanced funtions under an Advanced... menu item in each
TF menu.
ACM This sounds nice to me. Although come to think of it, flow of the
ACM menus depend on the options being
Hi Don,
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 11:47:37 -0800GMT (30/12/2001, 03:47 +0800GMT),
Don Taylor wrote:
DT I've never used an e-mail client that comes anywhere close to TB! in
DT terms of power and flexibility -- especially in the area of multiple
DT e-mail accounts. I recommend it heartily to anyone who
Hello Thomas F,
On Sunday, December 30 2001 at 07:51 PM PDT, you wrote:
IMHO this is quite a reasonable suggestion. However, I wouldn't change
the whole interface to hide advances functions, but rather move
advanced funtions under an Advanced... menu item in each menu.
In my estimation, we
Hi Bat-fellows,
need to brag about something: back in July I ventured to write a few
succinct lines of appreciation of The Bat! at CNET's www.download.com.
Tonight while casually browsing that server, I've noticed that the
review has been picked by CNET as representative for introducing The
On 29 December 2001 at 6:02 pm Avenarius wrote:
Hi Bat-fellows,
need to brag about something: back in July I ventured to write a few
succinct lines of appreciation of The Bat! at CNET's www.download.com.
Tonight while casually browsing that server, I've noticed that the
review has been
I see we're in the midst of a topic shift here (Bat review -
Wishlist), but I'm going to jump in, anyway :)
I've never used an e-mail client that comes anywhere close to TB! in
terms of power and flexibility -- especially in the area of multiple
e-mail accounts. I recommend it heartily to anyone
A Bat-fellow, Alastair Scott,
wrote on 29 December 2001 at 19:07:09 GMT,
which was 20:07 in Bratislava --
AS Further down the thread there's a few interesting comments [...]:
The editor for composing messages is SO bad, that it ruins an
otherwise very nice program.
AS [...] because of the
On 29 Dec 2001, 1:48:52 PM, Avenarius wrote:
Is it then true that TB!'s editor is primarily suited for the needs
of power users rather than ordinary users? Perhaps it only comes
across as such to the first-time user, which wouldn't then be a
fault in the editor but in its presentation as
On 12/29/2001, Avenarius wrote:
s it then true that TB!'s editor is primarily suited for the needs of
power users rather than ordinary users? Perhaps it only comes across
as such to the first-time user, which wouldn't then be a fault in the
editor but in its presentation as Alastair says.
On Saturday, February 03, 2001, 2:24:45 PM, Yuki wrote:
I'm surprised to hear *this*. g OE displays CJK perfectly in the
message list window as well? You can read subject lines? I
couldn't do this with the regular version of Outlook, although
most of the messages would display perfectly.
On Saturday, February 03, 2001, 9:53:13 PM, Thomas wrote:
Errr So does it work with XLAT tables for CJK or not?
When I write in Chinese, I want to set the charset to "big5", so it
would show up correctly (and automatically) in Chinese in the
recipient's email client. I couldn't do that
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Hi Ming-Li,
On 04 February 2001 at 05:09:33 -0800 (which was 13:09 where I live)
Ming-Li wrote and made these points:
ML ... XLAT tables for big5
moderator
Please can you move this (now lengthy and detailed) discussion to
TBTECH. I keep
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Hi Ming-Li,
On 04 February 2001 at 04:57:20 -0800 (which was 12:57 where I live)
Ming-Li wrote and made these points:
ML It's not make-or-break for me for the moment, since I'm in the
ML U.S. and read/write Chinese email only occasionally. It
On Wednesday, January 31, 2001, 11:43:44 PM, Thomas wrote:
I'm running W2k Pro (SP-1), and using NJStar Communicator
2.23(NT).
So I guess W2K is not "all languages" as advertised.
I don't think they advertise "all language" support, only those
supported by Unicode. For that, Win2k is doing
On Thursday, February 01, 2001, 12:16:06 AM, Yuki wrote:
It's an incomplete "all languages" at best. I could have the same
setup I have right now with TB! using Outlook, but OL is
apparently never going to have the fix where you can read subject
lines in the message window, unless you
On Thursday, February 01, 2001, 2:28:17 AM, Yuki wrote:
Probably . . . but to be honest with you, until opening TB! for
the first time, I've never come across the term XLAT table. So I
don't know where the heck I would look to find one.
There's none. Period. The XLAT table works on single
Sunday, February 04, 2001, 4:02:45 AM, Ming-Li wrote:
ML On Thursday, February 01, 2001, 12:16:06 AM, Yuki wrote:
It's an incomplete "all languages" at best. I could have the same
setup I have right now with TB! using Outlook, but OL is
apparently never going to have the fix where you can
Hallo Ming-Li,
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:08:09 -0800 GMT (04/02/2001, 03:08 +0800 GMT),
Ming-Li wrote:
There's none. Period. The XLAT table works on single byte to single
byte translation, and it just doesn't work on double-byte system
like Japanese, Chinese and Korean.
Ah-so deska.
BTW, you
Hello Thomas,
Thursday, February 01, 2001, 4:43:44 PM, you wrote:
T On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:53:47 +0900GMT (01/02/2001, 14:53 +0800GMT),
T Yuki Taga wrote:
I'm running W2k Pro (SP-1), and using NJStar Communicator 2.23(NT).
T So I guess W2K is not "all languages" as advertised.
It's an
Hi Yuki,
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:16:06 +0900GMT (01/02/2001, 16:16 +0800GMT),
Yuki Taga wrote:
To be fair to MS, which goes against my grain g, there is apparently a
"multi-language version" of Win2k, which apparently costs an arm and a leg,
but which will handle all these problems just fine.
Hello Thomas,
Thursday, February 01, 2001, 5:32:20 PM, you wrote:
T I thought W2K is aimed at the corporate market anyway, with it really
T being NT5 and all; while Windows ME is aimed at the private user, a
T newly-polished version of Win98. Oh well.
I think that's a fair statement, but it's
Hi Yuki,
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:14:00 +0900GMT (01/02/2001, 17:14 +0800GMT),
Yuki Taga wrote:
T Right-click on any incoming message and choose Encoding.
Say what? g I right click on a message in the reader, and I don't get an
'Encoding' option. Neither do I seem to get it in the message
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Hi Yuki,
On 01 February 2001 at 20:20:48 +0900 (which was 11:20 where I live)
Yuki Taga wrote and made these points:
YT Whoa, Marck, that would require a lot of people to suddenly
YT unlearn a habit ingrained by decades of repetition.
Well, I
Thursday, February 01, 2001, 8:35:23 PM, A. wrote:
ACM Sure. Disable auto-indent in the editor properties. :=)
YT Curtis, I did this, but I still ran into the situation where when
YT a sentence happens to end close to the line wrap, two spaces after
YT the period end up on different lines, with
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Hi Allie,
On 01 February 2001 at 06:35:23 -0500 (which was 11:35 where I live) A
. Curtis Martin wrote and made these points:
ACM ... this only happens when auto-format is not being used,
ACM otherwise auto-format will remove the unwanted indent on
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Hi Thomas,
On 01 February 2001 at 22:36:20 +0800 (which was 14:36 where I live)
Thomas wrote and made these points:
snip
T Enjoy all those messages in Japanese that will come in and be easy to
T read for you even without any FEP.
Now *that* is
MDP Seriously though, there is nothing TB can do other than obey what you
MDP are typing. How is TB (or the programmers teaching the editor how to
MDP respond) supposed to know that the space you *typed* at the start of a
MDP new line is *not* supposed to be an indentation in this instance?
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Hi Silver,
On 01 February 2001 at 09:16:07 -0800 (which was 17:16 where I live)
Silver Fox wrote and made these points:
SF Don't get me wrong, the benifits far outweigh this minor
SF inconvenience, but... It is possible, and most of the office
Thursday, February 01, 2001, 11:36:20 PM, Thomas wrote:
Okay, found it. I was looking in the viewer, and you were talking about
the message editor. My fault.
T No, my fault. I meant the viewer but used the term from the editor.
Okay, you win. g
But there's no Japanese support there yet
Hi Marck,
Historians believe that Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 10:43 GMT + was when,
Marck D. Pearlstone [MP] typed the following:
snip
MP [...] I personally would say that IMHO two
MP spaces are a hangover from typewriting and should be discarded for
MP electronic forms up publishing.
Hello Marck,
Wednesday, January 31, 2001, 7:43:39 PM, you wrote:
MDP If you don't want TB to auto-indent in that way, you an turn off the
MDP option in Editor preferences. I personally would say that IMHO two
MDP spaces are a hangover from typewriting and should be discarded for
MDP
Hi Yuki,
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:53:47 +0900GMT (01/02/2001, 14:53 +0800GMT),
Yuki Taga wrote:
I'm running W2k Pro (SP-1), and using NJStar Communicator 2.23(NT).
So I guess W2K is not "all languages" as advertised.
I don't know NJ Star Comm, so cannot comment on this.
Problem with getting a
Hi All.
This was given to me by Jim Hill, he created it some time back
when testing out the bat with another mailserver.
I see quite a few of these as cosmetic, but some of them do cause
problems.
-beginning of review-
Starting with the simple things:
The installation program is
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Hi Andrew,
On 30 January 2001 at 19:08:06 - (which was 19:08 where I live)
Andrew Hodgson wrote and made these points:
AH This was given to me by Jim Hill, he created it some time back
AH when testing out the bat with another mailserver.
Hello Marck,
Tuesday, January 30, 2001, 11:55:56 AM, you wrote:
MDP offers "an smtp server for receiving mail as an alternative to pop3"
MDP or "options to send via mx lookup instead of direct to smart host".
MDP This is functionality reserved for MTA, not MUA software. I am
MDP
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