Re: TheBat.Net/Gmail issue (aka: continuing curiosity killed the cat mode)
Hello Melissa, Monday, June 21, 2010, 9:46:27 PM, you wrote: MR Hi, MR Out of curiosity, I decided to try a @thebat.net (Gmail) account. MR Then I ran into an issue that I think needs solving... MR Checking and sending email both work, but first, I have to deal with MR these Unknown CA Certificate messages: MR http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/qajaq/TBUDL/TBNET-GmailPOPCertError.jpg MR http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/qajaq/TBUDL/TBNET-GmailSMTPCertError.jpg MR Is there a specific certificate I can download and install that will MR solve the problem? Obviously, having to click OK on these dialog MR boxes every time I wish to send or receive email is a major buzzkill. MR Indeed, it makes the email account pretty useless. I've been using GMAIL for years in The Bat! without problems Check the gmail settings instructions and tick the appropriate authentication box and you should be in business. In Account properties, Transport, Authentication I have 'perform SMTP authentication (RFC 2554)' ticked you also have to enable POP / IMAP see also http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287 kind regards Jenny Zonneveld -- Kind regards, Jenny Zonneveld Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat.Net/Gmail issue (aka: continuing curiosity killed the cat mode)
Hi Jenny, On Monday, June 21, 2010, at 11:52:19 PM PST, you wrote: I've been using GMAIL for years in The Bat! without problems Check the gmail settings instructions and tick the appropriate authentication box and you should be in business. In Account properties, Transport, Authentication I have 'perform SMTP authentication (RFC 2554)' ticked Been there, done that. you also have to enable POP / IMAP Been there, done that too. see also http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287 I've followed all these instructions for both accounts. I have two gmail accounts. One is a regular gmail account (gmail.com) that I've had for a long time (but hardly use because of this ongoing issue), and my new thebat.net account that I just started. Both suffer from the same issue. I've done quite a bit of Googling on this (oh, the irony!), and it seems I'm not the only one dealing with this issue. I've also installed all the CA Certs I supposedly need, and still, no satisfaction. Any other ideas? Thanks! -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 pgp4B8xMqHIhN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat.Net/Gmail issue (aka: continuing curiosity killed the cat mode)
Hello Melissa, On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:46:27 -0700 GMT (22/Jun/10, 2:46 AM +0700 GMT), Melissa Reese wrote: MR Checking and sending email both work, but first, I have to deal with MR these Unknown CA Certificate messages: MR http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/qajaq/TBUDL/TBNET-GmailPOPCertError.jpg MR http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/qajaq/TBUDL/TBNET-GmailSMTPCertError.jpg MR Is there a specific certificate I can download and install that will MR solve the problem? Yes. At least, that's what the error message says. MR Obviously, having to click OK on these dialog boxes every time I MR wish to send or receive email is a major buzzkill. Indeed, it MR makes the email account pretty useless. Sure. I don't have a gmail account, but please check around in their FAQ or help sections where you can download the root cert. I believe they have their very own one, and you download and install it. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat.Net/Gmail issue (aka: continuing curiosity killed the cat mode)
Hi On Tuesday 22 June 2010 at 9:25:57 AM, in mid:63652149.20100622012...@gmx.com, Melissa Reese wrote: I have two gmail accounts. One is a regular gmail account (gmail.com) that I've had for a long time (but hardly use because of this ongoing issue), and my new thebat.net account that I just started. Both suffer from the same issue. I've done quite a bit of Googling on this (oh, the irony!), and it seems I'm not the only one dealing with this issue. I've also installed all the CA Certs I supposedly need, and still, no satisfaction. I've not used TheBat.Net, but when I connect to gmail to receive mail, the account log includes:- 22/06/2010, 01:55:48: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake 22/06/2010, 01:55:48: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 14D31A8600031290, algorithm: RSA (1024 bits), issued from 22/04/2010 20:11:23 to 22/04/2011 20:21:23, for 1 host(s): pop.gmail.com. 22/06/2010, 01:55:48: FETCH - Owner: US, California, Mountain View, Google Inc, pop.gmail.com. 22/06/2010, 01:55:48: FETCH - Issuer: US, Google Inc, Google Internet Authority. 22/06/2010, 01:55:48: FETCH - Root: US, Equifax, Equifax Secure Certificate Authority 22/06/2010, 01:55:49: FETCH - TLS handshake complete 22/06/2010, 01:55:49: FETCH - connected to POP3 server I tried deleting one of the four equifax entries from my trusted root address book; I got the same error as you for both gmail and yahoo. When I re-imported that certificate, the error went away. The entry concerned is Equifax Equifax Secure Certificate Authority and the certificate serial number is 35DEF4CF. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Confusion is always the most honest response Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat.Net/Gmail issue (aka: continuing curiosity killed the cat mode)
Hi MFPA, On Tuesday, June 22, 2010, at 10:59:53 AM PST, you wrote: I tried deleting one of the four equifax entries from my trusted root address book; I got the same error as you for both gmail and yahoo. When I re-imported that certificate, the error went away. The entry concerned is Equifax Equifax Secure Certificate Authority and the certificate serial number is 35DEF4CF. Thank you! Problem solved! Here's where I found it : https://wiscmail.wisc.edu/static/pem/equifax-equifax-secure-certificate.pem :) -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 pgpEr42gWMfna.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat.Net/Gmail issue (aka: continuing curiosity killed the cat mode)
Hi, Out of curiosity, I decided to try a @thebat.net (Gmail) account. Then I ran into an issue that I think needs solving... Checking and sending email both work, but first, I have to deal with these Unknown CA Certificate messages: http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/qajaq/TBUDL/TBNET-GmailPOPCertError.jpg http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/qajaq/TBUDL/TBNET-GmailSMTPCertError.jpg Is there a specific certificate I can download and install that will solve the problem? Obviously, having to click OK on these dialog boxes every time I wish to send or receive email is a major buzzkill. Indeed, it makes the email account pretty useless. -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 pgp0uV9yAD2bI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat.Net/Gmail issue (aka: continuing curiosity killed the cat mode)
Hi, I realize it's bad form to reply to myself, and I apologize, but I have some additional information... On Monday, June 21, 2010, at 12:46:27 PM PST, I wrote: Checking and sending email both work, but first, I have to deal with these Unknown CA Certificate messages: http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/qajaq/TBUDL/TBNET-GmailPOPCertError.jpg http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/qajaq/TBUDL/TBNET-GmailSMTPCertError.jpg Is there a specific certificate I can download and install that will solve the problem? Obviously, having to click OK on these dialog boxes every time I wish to send or receive email is a major buzzkill. Indeed, it makes the email account pretty useless. I'm currently testing an installation of Thunderbird v3 for a friend, so decided to see what would happen there with this same account installed. I did receive a certificate error, but Thunderbird gave me the option to accept a permanent exception to the usual CA certificate rule: http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/qajaq/TBUDL/TBNET-GmailSMTPThunderbird.jpg If there's no other solution, is there any way to make such an exception in The Bat's handling of this issue? -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 pgpzB4gjQXr5u.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
