Re[2]: proper english or not?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, February 28, 2001, 8:09:15 PM, we have reason to believe that Fred Weissman wrote: FW "Organization" with a "z" is -American- English, while "organisation" with FW a "s" is the Queen's English - English as spoken (spelled) in the United FW Kingdom. "z" is for words of Greek origin, "s" for words of Latin origin - or the other way round perhaps - the important thing IMHO is that one be consistent, or conziztent, but not consiztent nor conzistent. - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49b on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOqAyj0qL65Xj7aHMEQLLWwCeJ0ciDkegCYtAeBpqSPZKgZsRUB0Anigp Qm3skls1U7uZyfiup6HaXVV6 =xHi0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: proper english or not?
Hello Thursday, March 01, 2001, 8:03:24 AM, someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not according to the Oxford English dictionary here in "good old blighty". 'ise' is allowable but 'ize' is correct. Down here in Oz we use "ise" instead of "ize" in most cases, AFAIK. Ain't the world a strange place! -- Regards John Phillips Sydney, Australia Hamster 1.3.22.1 Bat! 1.49 Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
proper english or not?
Hello TBUDL subscribers, This question is very simple one and related to TB!, of course :) What is the correct form: Organisation or Organization? 's' or 'z'? I ran a spell-checker on this and it suggested me form with 'z' letter which, AFAIK, is proper in english, but why then RIT guys use %oorganiSation and similar in templates? -- Sincerely, Lija Using The Bat! v1.51 Beta/1 on Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: proper english or not?
-- Original Message -- From: Lija [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:18:09 +0100 Hello TBUDL subscribers, This question is very simple one and related to TB!, of course :) What is the correct form: Organisation or Organization? 's' or 'z'? It depends on where you are: 's' is the British spelling, 'z' is the American. I ran a spell-checker on this and it suggested me form with 'z' letter Your spell checker has an American English dictionary. which, AFAIK, is proper in english, but why then RIT guys use %oorganiSation and similar in templates? They're apparently using a British English dictionary (or have been taught British English. IOW, both are correct -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: proper english or not?
Hey Lija, Wednesday, February 28, 2001, 2:18:09 PM, you wrote: L What is the correct form: Organisation or Organization? 's' or 'z'? My Webster's II New College Dictionary has it as organization... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.49 Windows NT 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 1) E Pluribus Unix -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: proper english or not?
What is the correct form: Organisation or Organization? 's' or 'z'? "Organization" with a "z" is -American- English, while "organisation" with a "s" is the Queen's English - English as spoken (spelled) in the United Kingdom. -- When I die, I want to go sleeping like my grandfather. Not screaming like the passengers in his car. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.ne.mediaone.net/phred13 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: proper english or not?
Hello Lija, It depends on where you hail from. The 's' forms of such words are the traditional spellings. The 'z' spellings come from the reforms of the American lexicographer, Noah Webster. Since the mid-19th century, the 'z' forms are considered to be the standard for American-English. The 's' forms continue to be standard in the British commonwealth generally, although I believe that the American forms are gaining currency. Wednesday, February 28, 2001, 14:18:09, you wrote: L Hello TBUDL subscribers, L This question is very simple one and related to TB!, of course :) L What is the correct form: Organisation or Organization? 's' or 'z'? L I ran a spell-checker on this and it suggested me form with 'z' letter L which, AFAIK, is proper in english, but why then RIT guys use L %oorganiSation and similar in templates? Best regards, Dave -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: proper english or not?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On February 28, 2001, at 12:09:15 PM, Fred Weissman Wrote: FW "Organization" with a "z" is -American- English, while "organisation" with FW a "s" is the Queen's English - English as spoken (spelled) in the United FW Kingdom. Yes, but I have "British English" selected in Spell Checker/Language, and TB! still flags organisation and recommends organization? I must have some kind of conflict with languages. Anyone with a suggestion as to how I can rid my System of the American Dictionary, leaving only the British? Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.51b1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 7.0.3 | Key ID: 0xC50284747BA3FDCE ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOp1d/8UChHR7o/3OEQKmvACfR8jzrCx+qOi9k3i3VTiJ5dKaGqMAoJ0B QGx53sCr7d9h0VJUuBaR/J5F =P9qp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: proper english or not?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, On 28 February 2001 at 15:01:57 -0500 (which was 20:01 where I live) Tim Musson wrote and made these points: L What is the correct form: Organisation or Organization? 's' or 'z'? TM My Webster's II New College Dictionary has it as organization... And, as a view from the other side of the pond, so does the Oxford English dictionary, although it does list 'ise' as an acceptable alternative. The 1962 Oxford illustrated does not, however. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.51 Beta/1/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOp1gYTnkJKuSnc2gEQLjUACfWIUMB46uHOnYmQt8JURs645FfGEAn0Es LPYQKcwCIBzvQPmmNR8tgq7c =yyuR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: proper english or not?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Fred, On 28 February 2001 at 15:09:15 -0500 (which was 20:09 where I live) Fred Weissman wrote and made these points: What is the correct form: Organisation or Organization? 's' or 'z'? FW "Organization" with a "z" is -American- English, while FW "organisation" with a "s" is the Queen's English - English as FW spoken (spelled) in the United Kingdom. Not according to the Oxford English dictionary here in "good old blighty". 'ise' is allowable but 'ize' is correct. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.51 Beta/1/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOp1nnDnkJKuSnc2gEQLNRwCaAzr2BbZgzGtMv/bBLRnrcXLI//wAoLGG qSUxo+fG+K1flntiejtmX1mZ =ckuS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: proper english or not?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Keith, Wednesday, February 28, 2001, 8:01:19 PM, you wrote: What is the correct form: Organisation or Organization? 's' or 'z'? KR It depends on where you are: 's' is the British spelling, 'z' is the American. Another one I have seen is centre (English) - center (US) in MS Word of all things using UK English - -- Best regards, Davemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 04 iQA/AwUBOp1l9ouowXdtlnXzEQLhLQCcC5KbslwTrOoNc3mvF0+1yBhwIdcAoOLK oDYtxdulKRpKtWL04aKmgO3h =iuw1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
