Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Greg, You are probably right in regards to TB, that is probably why I am still on 1.62i and didn't even jump to 1.62r. My stability meter (quite subjective, BTW) hasn't advised this jump yet :) Oh just jump! Well, not today. MY right knee is hurting to much ;-) snipped I don't really use IMAP accounts even though I have a few for test purposes. At least not yet anyhow. There were some significant issues with IMAP such as the ticker problem and supposed memory leaks. I may be wrong classifying the ticker problem to IMAP, and would suggest looking for messages in TBBETA from Jonathan Angliss. He is a HEAVY email user such as yourself Miguel. Thanks Greg, but I don't use IMAP at all. In any case, the possible ticker issues wouldn't worry me because I don't use the ticker at all. Take care :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello MAU, Thanks Greg, but I don't use IMAP at all. In any case, the possible ticker issues wouldn't worry me because I don't use the ticker at all. Unless I'm missing something here macros would be the only significant issue with your upgrade to v2. I'm no macro expert, but from what I've read the changes are better. I had some of my macros go south on me with v1.63 beta 8. I relied on the experts to get the bugs worked out. Hopefully newer documentation on v2 will provide insight to users such as yourself. Hope the knee feels better, take care! :-) -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Greg, Hopefully newer documentation on v2 will provide insight to users such as yourself. Hope the knee feels better, take care! :-) Yeah, I'll wait for the documentation :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello MAU, Is there such a thing with TB!? The reason I wonder is because I have trouble recalling anytime when only bug fixing occurs between versions. Usually new features are being added. So there's never really a time when you can say that a particular version contains features that have all been tested for a long time and fully debugged. You are probably right in regards to TB, that is probably why I am still on 1.62i and didn't even jump to 1.62r. My stability meter (quite subjective, BTW) hasn't advised this jump yet :) Oh just jump! Seriously I haven't kept up with TB since release. To busy with other priorities which will be this way for some months. I was up to date with betas up to release. Couple of suggestions would be a separate web page on www.silverstones.com for macro libraries with new v2 which would also discuss the changes of macros between 1.63 beta 7 and earlier releases to 1.63 beta 8 and later releases including v2. If you use IMAP accounts extensively, you might to want to wait a while. This last statement is conditional based upon the paragraph below. I don't really use IMAP accounts even though I have a few for test purposes. At least not yet anyhow. There were some significant issues with IMAP such as the ticker problem and supposed memory leaks. I may be wrong classifying the ticker problem to IMAP, and would suggest looking for messages in TBBETA from Jonathan Angliss. He is a HEAVY email user such as yourself Miguel. These may have been fixed in the release since it is now on v2.00.6. I don't know because there has been no releases (i.e. .txt files) of version changes to my knowledge since release of v2 on TBBETA. At least I haven't seen any postings from Stefan, and I've been looking for them. When I try to access the old download page for betas I get an error. ,- [ http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/ ] | Forbidden | You don't have permission to access /download/the_bat/beta/ on this server. | | | | | Apache/1.3.28 Server at www.ritlabs.com Port 80 `- or ,- [ http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/ ] | 404 - HTTP not found `- or ,- [ ftp.ritlabs.com ] | User anonymous unknown. `- So I can't even DL the txt files to look at. Make the move when your comfortable. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Allie, Is there such a thing with TB!? The reason I wonder is because I have trouble recalling anytime when only bug fixing occurs between versions. Usually new features are being added. So there's never really a time when you can say that a particular version contains features that have all been tested for a long time and fully debugged. You are probably right in regards to TB, that is probably why I am still on 1.62i and didn't even jump to 1.62r. My stability meter (quite subjective, BTW) hasn't advised this jump yet :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Roelof, I should elaborate on that. 2.00 has some extra macros. Those have no function in 1.62 And some other macros have slightly different meaning or syntax in 2.00, that's worse. Thanks. That is what I thought and that is why I haven't even tried v2.0 yet. I do a lot of automatic and semi-automatic message processing and I therefore use a lot (quite a lot) of templates and macros. I know that sooner or later I will upgrade and will have to at least tweak some or many of my templates, but I would really hate to have to come back to 1.62 and have to undo the tweaking. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hallo MAU, On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:19:59 +0200GMT (11-9-03, 9:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M but I would really hate to have to come back to 1.62 and have to M undo the tweaking. And then there are back-ups to make that easy. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Roelof, And then there are back-ups to make that easy. Agree, but it has always been my policy (for any software I use for work) to NOT upgrade as soon as a new version is released. I usually wait until it is a bit more polished and stable :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Roelof, RO I switched several times between the 2.00 betas and 1.62r and that RO caused me no problems. The only difference is that 2.00 uses a Thanks all for the help. I can confirm the old *.exe runs just fine, and new maded folders are not seen just like that, but that was not importand for the test. As for the AV I will reply to the right thread. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
11-Sep-2003 01:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some other macros have slightly different meaning or syntax in 2.00 Is there a list which are affected, and how? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Lottery: A tax on people who don't understand statistics. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Mau, [M] wrote: M Agree, but it has always been my policy (for any software I use for M work) to NOT upgrade as soon as a new version is released. I usually M wait until it is a bit more polished and stable :) Is there such a thing with TB!? The reason I wonder is because I have trouble recalling anytime when only bug fixing occurs between versions. Usually new features are being added. So there's never really a time when you can say that a particular version contains features that have all been tested for a long time and fully debugged. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v2 compatible with older version?
Hello, Is v2 compatible with older version v1.62 ? I think I saw messages about changes, so I'm not sure. The main reason I ask, is that I have AV problems with v2, and I maybe can try the old EXE (I renamed it to keep it). But if there are compatibility issues then maybe I just better dont try that :) -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Wilfried, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:59:05 +0200 GMT (11/09/2003, 00:59 +0700 GMT), Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: Is v2 compatible with older version v1.62 ? If you didn't change anything in the folder structure, there is no issue. If you did, hit ctrl-alt-shft-L after you downgrade. No guarantees. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. They recently conducted a marijuana taste test. Nobody seems to be able to remember the results. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Thomas, TF No guarantees. Hmm the phrase I dont wanted to hear :) I can make copy of course of folders. What about registry ? Can there be messed up something ? I need it for my work, so I cannot effort giving myself hours of problems :) -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Wilfried, I need it for my work, so I cannot effort giving myself hours of problems :) That is exactly the reason I am still on 1.62i and will not upgrade for some time :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello MAU, M That is exactly the reason I am still on 1.62i and will not upgrade for M some time :) I was so stupid g -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hallo Wilfried, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:59:05 +0200GMT (10-9-03, 19:59 +0200, where I live), you wrote: WM Is v2 compatible with older version v1.62 ? WM I think I saw messages about changes, so I'm not sure. I switched several times between the 2.00 betas and 1.62r and that caused me no problems. The only difference is that 2.00 uses a different file to store the folder structure. (The file's called account.flb instead of account.flx) As long as you didn't create new folders in 2.00 the old account.flx still contains all folder info. Otherwise the magic key combo Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L finds your lost folders for you. The other issue is the changed registration info. When you're going back to 1.62r it'll say that you're not registered, so you have to enter the old 1.xx registration key and the belonging password. As I mentioned, everything works alright. I changed several times without ill effects. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Roelof, As I mentioned, everything works alright. I changed several times without ill effects. What about macros and templates, are they fully compatible? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hallo MAU, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:19:35 +0200GMT (10-9-03, 23:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: As I mentioned, everything works alright. I changed several times without ill effects. M What about macros and templates, are they fully compatible? Nope. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hallo Roelof, On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 01:07:28 +0200GMT (11-9-03, 1:07 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M What about macros and templates, are they fully compatible? RO Nope. I should elaborate on that. 2.00 has some extra macros. Those have no function in 1.62 And some other macros have slightly different meaning or syntax in 2.00, that's worse. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 6:59:05 PM, Wilfried wrote: WM Is v2 compatible with older version v1.62 ? WM I think I saw messages about changes, so I'm not sure. Wilfrid, If you have only POP accounts (no IMAP) then you can simply reinstall v1.x over the top of v2 and the folders will still work. I just did this on my test PC to see what happened. I had no problems, no lost folders, no lost messages or anything like that. V1.x did become an unregistered version once more though, as the registry still had the key for v2.0 so you'll need to make sure you have your original v1.x reg details handy. Reminder: Before trying this make a copy of your Mail folder as a backup _just in case!_ -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Wilfried, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:59:28 +0200 GMT (11/09/2003, 01:59 +0700 GMT), Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: I can make copy of course of folders. What about registry ? Can there be messed up something ? I don't know, but a backup should be in order. Back up the whole key HKCU / Software / Rit. That is part of my TB backup routine before I install any new version. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When you come to a fork in the road, take it! (Yogi Berra) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
