Mail created date time
Hi all, I've a question regarding the 'Created Date Time' within emails. I receive periodic emails from one of my bank accounts and when they come through, there is no created date or time in them. I sort my mail by created date, but because these mails don't have a created date, they're not sorted correctly. I've approached the organisation in question and they assure me that the date is included in all their outgoing mail. So why do I not receive it and why is it only from this one location? I've attached a screen print (it's in Thunderbird, but it's the same with TB!) for people to see. I've tried comparing headers and all I can see that is different, is after the 'Subject' header, there is no 'Date' header. Could this be what is missing? -- Chris Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail created date time
Hello Chris, On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:11:23 + GMT (20/01/2005, 23:11 +0700 GMT), Chris Weaven wrote: CW I've approached the organisation in question and they assure me that the CW date is included in all their outgoing mail. CW So why do I not receive it and why is it only from this one location? I can imagine that their date stamp is not according to the RFC. CW I've attached a screen print (it's in Thunderbird, but it's the same CW with TB!) for people to see. Didn't come through, obviously. But what I would be more interested in is the headers of that message rather than a screenshot. Especially the Date header. CW I've tried comparing headers and all I can see that is different, is CW after the 'Subject' header, there is no 'Date' header. Could this be CW what is missing? Args. No Date header? Send the headers back to them for examination. I cannot fathom a server en route would strip a Date header, though. Sounds weird. -- Cheers, Thomas. 2000 jaehriges Bad Goegging wird 70 Jahre alt. * Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail created date time
Hi Thomas, The original quoted text below was written on 20/01/2005 16:56 my local time; I can imagine that their date stamp is not according to the RFC. As I'm sure most of their mail is system generated, I suspect something is missing somewhere. Didn't come through, obviously. But what I would be more interested in is the headers of that message rather than a screenshot. Especially the Date header. I forgot that TBUDL doesn't allow any attachments. If I get time tonight when I get home, I'll put some up on the internet and post the link. Args. No Date header? Send the headers back to them for examination. I cannot fathom a server en route would strip a Date header, though. Sounds weird. I've already written to them twice including a screen print. They said they couldn't open the attachment (.png) for security reasons, so I have to write to them and print out a copy of the screen print :-( Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail created date time
Hi all, The original quoted text below was written on 20/01/2005 17:16 my local time; Apologies about the missing cut marks. I didn't notice to start with, but when I change identities in Thunderbird, it removes it!? Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Hopefully this one has worked :-) -- Chris Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail created date time
Hello Chris, Thursday, January 20, 2005, 12:16:31 PM, you wrote and sent the following: I've already written to them twice including a screen print. They said they couldn't open the attachment (.png) for security reasons, so I have to write to them and print out a copy of the screen print :-( View / RFC822 Headers isn't enough? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 I like kids, but I don't think I could eat a whole one. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail created date time
Hi Chris, On Thursday, January 20, 2005 17:16 our local time, Chris Weaven [CW] wrote; Didn't come through, obviously. But what I would be more interested in is the headers of that message rather than a screenshot. Especially the Date header. CW I forgot that TBUDL doesn't allow any attachments. If I get time tonight CW when I get home, I'll put some up on the internet and post the link. Ok, as promised, links to sample screen prints: http://www.w-world.net/forum_images/headers.png http://www.w-world.net/forum_images/dates.png *All* the other mail I have, have a 'Date' header directly under the subject line, whereas the messages in question don't. What do people think? -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Cleaning up SPAM with Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail created date time
Hello Chris, Thursday, January 20, 2005, 2:24:58 PM, you wrote and sent the following: What do people think? 1) They are generating wrong headers... but maybe not since I think 2 is more likely. 2) Are you accidentally parsing out headers from these particular emails with your mail server? Some spam or header rule? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife. --Douglas Adams Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Mail created date time
Hi Andrew, On Thursday, January 20, 2005 15:08 your local time, which was 20:08 my local time, Andrew Andrew [A] wrote; A 2) Are you accidentally parsing out headers from these particular A emails with your mail server? Some spam or header rule? I do have SPAM rules, but I've only been running the mail server for about 1 month now. Some of these messages date back nearly 12 months. -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Cleaning up SPAM with Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail created date time
Hello Chris, Thursday, January 20, 2005, 10:20:55 AM, you wrote: C Hopefully this one has worked :-) You got it... Thanks. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Sponges grow in the ocean ... that *kills* me. I wonder how much deeper the oceans would be if that didn't happen. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html