Re: Moving to a new computer
Hi On Friday 26 September 2014 at 2:31:51 PM, in , Adrian Godfrey wrote: > As for %email", it did actually point to the same > place as Options, Preferences in The Bat. This > surprised me as no matter how many times I set The > Bat as "default mail program", clicking on mailto > on websites opens "compose message" in Eudora (if > it is running) and starts Eudora if it isn't. %email% is a bespoke environment variable added by The Bat!. I've not personally encountered another mail client that uses it. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Wise men learn many things from their enemies. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Adrian, On Friday, September 26, 2014 you wrote: AG> Thursday, September 25, 2014, 9:04:25 PM, you wrote: >> Any reason why it shouldn't be put in: >> C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!? >> It offends my Monkian sensibilities to have files to a specific >> program spread all over the place. AG> The place you do NOT want application data (whether email client or AG> any other software) is in any directory created AG> by Windows itself. Ideally on a separate disk (I can do this on one AG> of my laptops, but the newer ones don't have physical space for a AG> second hard disk unless you lose the CD/DVD drive), but at the very least AG> on a separate partition from the Windows partition. Thanks Adrian. Your observations have been echoed by others as well. AG> As for %email", it did actually point to the same place as Options, AG> Preferences in The Bat. This surprised me as no matter how many times AG> I set The Bat as "default mail program", clicking on mailto on AG> websites opens "compose message" in Eudora (if it is running) and AG> starts Eudora if it isn't. This may happen for other people who have AG> more than one email client installed eg. Outlook or Thunderbird as AG> well as The Bat. Clicking on a website mailto calls whatever mail client is set as the default in the BROWSER. If you're using FireFox, the procedure to set its default mail client is: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/change-program-used-open-email-links Interrogate the web for the same procedure in other browsers. Someone will have an answer. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Pulling this slightly off topic... Friday, September 26, 2014, 9:31:51 AM, Adrian wrote: AG> As for %email", it did actually point to the same place as Options, AG> Preferences in The Bat. This surprised me as no matter how many times AG> I set The Bat as "default mail program", clicking on mailto on AG> websites opens "compose message" in Eudora (if it is running) and AG> starts Eudora if it isn't. This may happen for other people who have AG> more than one email client installed eg. Outlook or Thunderbird as AG> well as The Bat. What happens when you click a mailto link in a web browser is going to depend on the browser you're using. Internet Explorer will use the Windows settings for file/protocol associations. I think Chrome shares those settings as well. Firefox, however, has its own independent settings that you have to configure in the browser (under the Applications tab in Settings). I assume setting the file associations in TB! sets itself up in the Windows file associations, but I wouldn't necessarily trust that's working. You should manually inspect that list to make sure things are configured as you expect. -- Sam mailto:norma...@mynormallife.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Thursday, September 25, 2014, 9:04:25 PM, you wrote: > Any reason why it shouldn't be put in: > C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!? > It offends my Monkian sensibilities to have files to a specific > program spread all over the place. The place you do NOT want application data (whether email client or any other software) is in any directory created by Windows itself. Ideally on a separate disk (I can do this on one of my laptops, but the newer ones don't have physical space for a second hard disk unless you lose the CD/DVD drive), but at the very least on a separate partition from the Windows partition. As for %email", it did actually point to the same place as Options, Preferences in The Bat. This surprised me as no matter how many times I set The Bat as "default mail program", clicking on mailto on websites opens "compose message" in Eudora (if it is running) and starts Eudora if it isn't. This may happen for other people who have more than one email client installed eg. Outlook or Thunderbird as well as The Bat. Adrian ... Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
>Yes, it should ~not~ be put there, because user modifiable files are not >supposed to be placed in any Program Files subdirectory. (Although this was >once entirely possible in some earlier versions of Windows, this is now >verboten for security reasons.) It COULD go into the programdata folder ... I have mine on another drive but even putting it in My Documents would work. If you have any trouble, check the folder/file permissions. They can get you all messed up in windows 8 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
> Any reason why it shouldn't be put in: > C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!? Yes, it should ~not~ be put there, because user modifiable files are not supposed to be placed in any Program Files subdirectory. (Although this was once entirely possible in some earlier versions of Windows, this is now verboten for security reasons.) -- Fred Using TheBat V.4.2.44.2 for POP3 mail with Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Rick, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: >>Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields: >>C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\TheBat! As Feli suggested, >>Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into >>WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! R> That is it! But you can put it anywhere you want and browse to it in the bat Any reason why it shouldn't be put in: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!? It offends my Monkian sensibilities to have files to a specific program spread all over the place. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Feli, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: FW> Hello Jack, FW> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:42:05 -0500GMT Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL>> Sounds very easy but when you say "email JSL>> data folder", to which specific folder are you referring? What would JSL>> the Windows Explorer address bar show? FW> Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You will find the FW> directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place FW> you want. Options/Preferences/System here yields: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\ and if you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! So I guess that answers my question. Thank you Feli. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
>Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields: >C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! As Feli suggested, >Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into >WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! That is it! But you can put it anywhere you want and browse to it in the bat Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello MFPA, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: M> Hi M> On Thursday 25 September 2014 at 4:53:57 PM, in M> , Feli Wilcke wrote: >> Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You >> will find the directory there. Here it is called >> F:\TB\ but you can put it any place you want. M> There is also a fair chance that typing %email% in the M> explorer address bar and hitting the enter key will find it. Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! As Feli suggested, Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! So, two ways of getting the information. Thanks M. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hi On Thursday 25 September 2014 at 4:53:57 PM, in , Feli Wilcke wrote: > Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You > will find the directory there. Here it is called > F:\TB\ but you can put it any place you want. There is also a fair chance that typing %email% in the windows explorer address bar and hitting the enter key will find it. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Does anybody really read these things? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Jack, On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:42:05 -0500GMT Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL> Sounds very easy but when you say "email JSL> data folder", to which specific folder are you referring? What would JSL> the Windows Explorer address bar show? Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You will find the directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place you want. -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! Version 6.6.0.5 (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 We are continually faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems. [John W. Gardner] Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Volker, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: VA> [In Reply to: »Jack S. LaRosa« · 2014-09-25 · 15:40 h (CET)] VA> Moin, Jack et al.! >> […] The old HP laptop is running Win 7 and the new ASUS is loaded >> with Win 8 or 8.1. Not sure which. […] The last answer to Mike's >> question was the one posted by Thomas Fernandez where Thomas states >> that backing up TB to a safe place, loading the installer on the new >> machine and then when run, apparently the installer will ask if you >> want to restore from backup. So, the questions are these: >> a) Is this the best way to achieve the move? VA> Yes, I think so, too. >> b) We're both running ver 5.2 and I find that I no longer have the MSI >> file. The archived versions of TB list TB Home 5.8.8 as the closest >> to 5.2. Are there any major differences between 5.2 and 5.88? VA> AFAIK no. >> c) Will my wife's key block work on 5.8.8? VA> Yes. >> d) Is 5.8.8 going to run in Win 8. VA> AFAIK yes. >> e) What questions haven't I thought of? VA> That the second e) must be f). ;-) >> e) Should I just cut my throat now? VA> Definitely not. ツ VA> Cheers! VA> VA Thank you Volker. I wasn't sure where to place the "cut my throat" question. Wasn't paying enough attention to the letters. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Paul, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: PVN> 9/25/2014 10:41 AM PVN> Hi Jack, PVN> On 9/25/2014 Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL>> I need to know how to move TB! from the old HP to the new ASUS. PVN> This is how I do it: PVN> Copy the Email data folder (with sub-folders) to the new computer. PVN> Install TB from MSI and point it to this folder. PVN> TB sees this folder and sets up the accounts. PVN> I have used this technique for many years. BTW, I recommend moving to PVN> version 6. It is worth it. Thanks for the reply Paul. Sounds very easy but when you say "email data folder", to which specific folder are you referring? What would the Windows Explorer address bar show? -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
9/25/2014 10:41 AM Hi Jack, On 9/25/2014 Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL> I need to know how to move TB! from the old HP to the new ASUS. This is how I do it: Copy the Email data folder (with sub-folders) to the new computer. Install TB from MSI and point it to this folder. TB sees this folder and sets up the accounts. I have used this technique for many years. BTW, I recommend moving to version 6. It is worth it. - -- Paul The Bat! v.6.6.0.3 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
[In Reply to: »Jack S. LaRosa« · 2014-09-25 · 15:40 h (CET)] Moin, Jack et al.! > […] The old HP laptop is running Win 7 and the new ASUS is loaded > with Win 8 or 8.1. Not sure which. […] The last answer to Mike's > question was the one posted by Thomas Fernandez where Thomas states > that backing up TB to a safe place, loading the installer on the new > machine and then when run, apparently the installer will ask if you > want to restore from backup. So, the questions are these: > a) Is this the best way to achieve the move? Yes, I think so, too. > b) We're both running ver 5.2 and I find that I no longer have the MSI > file. The archived versions of TB list TB Home 5.8.8 as the closest > to 5.2. Are there any major differences between 5.2 and 5.88? AFAIK no. > c) Will my wife's key block work on 5.8.8? Yes. > d) Is 5.8.8 going to run in Win 8. AFAIK yes. > e) What questions haven't I thought of? That the second e) must be f). ;-) > e) Should I just cut my throat now? Definitely not. ツ Cheers! VA - -- Volker Ahrendt | q...@ahrendt.net | The /\^o^/\! [Pro] 6.6.0.5 Operating System: Windows 7 Professional [Build 7601 – Service Pack 1] Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! »You live and learn. At any rate, you live.« Douglas Adams (* March 11, 1952; † May 11, 2001) Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
