Re: Recieved time (was: v1.53d can't reply or forward emails)

2001-12-04 Thread Paul A. Thiessen

TF Hmmm. I think it does. TB downloads the messages in te order in which
TF they are on the server. Therefore, they should should be (and are,
TF over here) received by the client in the same order as on the server.

Sorry, I should have been more precise. It's complicated for me by the fact
that I'm typically condensing mail from 3 accounts into a single inbox - so
yes, if I consider each account separately, then the mail is received by TB
*for that account* in the order it is received on the server. But since all
three accounts are being downloaded simultaneously, the order of receipt of
messages between the accounts gets interleaved - so when I transfer them
all to one inbox, the received by TB order does *not* match the received
by server order.

I think this would be fixed by a received by server time ordering,
assuming my ISP keeps each of my pop mailboxes on the same machine (which I
think it must - they're all on the same POP host, just different user
names), or at least with synchronized clocks.

Yes, I realize this is a bit of a special case... I'm just trying to be
complex! :) It's just that TB is so nearly perfect in many other ways, I
have to get picky to find something new/different to request! ;)

- Paul

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Re: Recieved time (was: v1.53d can't reply or forward emails)

2001-12-04 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 at 13:38:30 GMT -0500 (which was 12/5/2001 1:38 AM)
Paul A. Thiessen=[PAT] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

PAT Sorry,  I  should have been more precise. It's complicated for me
PAT by  the  fact  that I'm typically condensing mail from 3 accounts
PAT into  a  single  inbox  -  so  yes,  if  I  consider each account
PAT separately, then the mail is received by TB *for that account* in
PAT the  order  it  is  received  on  the server. But since all three
PAT accounts  are  being  downloaded  simultaneously,  the  order  of
PAT receipt  of messages between the accounts gets interleaved - so
PAT when I transfer them all to one inbox, the received by TB order
PAT does *not* match the received by server order.

Yeah,  I  noticed  some POP3 server having strange message Time Stamp,
Mercury/32 is one of the example.

PAT I  think  this  would  be  fixed  by  a received by server time
PAT ordering,  assuming  my ISP keeps each of my pop mailboxes on the
PAT same machine (which I think it must - they're all on the same POP
PAT host,  just  different user names), or at least with synchronized
PAT clocks.

I  was  thinking  as  that  too in the past, because my server at home
having  feature  download  base  on  message size (less first), if I
activate this feature my sort order going strange :-(
But  in  other  side I think I must trust my PC clock than others :-),
and  there  are  more  complex  situation  will raise up if using such
feature, for instance : message live will not work as expected.

PAT Yes, I realize this is a bit of a special case... I'm just trying
PAT to  be complex! :) It's just that TB is so nearly perfect in many
PAT other  ways,  I have to get picky to find something new/different
PAT to request! ;)

The work around is sort message base on Creation Time.

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Re: Recieved time (was: v1.53d can't reply or forward emails)

2001-12-04 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On 4  Dec 2001, 12:38:30 PM, Paul A. Thiessen wrote:

 I think this would be fixed by a received by server time ordering,
 assuming my ISP keeps each of my pop mailboxes on the same machine
 (which I think it must - they're all on the same POP host, just
 different user names), or at least with synchronized clocks.

If you count batpost.com I get mail through six different ISPs, so one
would have to count on all them having clocks in agreement as well.

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Re: Recieved time (was: v1.53d can't reply or forward emails)

2001-12-04 Thread Thomas F

Hi Dwight,

On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:57:40 -0600GMT (05/12/2001, 04:57 +0800GMT),
Dwight A Corrin wrote:

 I think this would be fixed by a received by server time ordering,
 assuming my ISP keeps each of my pop mailboxes on the same machine
 (which I think it must - they're all on the same POP host, just
 different user names), or at least with synchronized clocks.

DAC If you count batpost.com I get mail through six different ISPs, so one
DAC would have to count on all them having clocks in agreement as well.

Seeing that we, as home PC users, synchronise our clocks to the
millisecond with the atomic clocks, wouldn't an ISP do that routinely?

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Re: Recieved time (was: v1.53d can't reply or forward emails)

2001-12-04 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On 4  Dec 2001, 8:25:09 PM, Thomas F wrote:

 Seeing that we, as home PC users, synchronise our clocks to the
 millisecond with the atomic clocks, wouldn't an ISP do that
 routinely?

I hope so!

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