Re[2]: Filters again
Monday, July 22, 2002, 5:24:16 PM, you wrote: [snip] Hi Allie - ACM Sounds like you need to invest in one of those ACM specialist spam filtering tools that have been ACM mentioned on this list now and then, like Spam Weasel ACM or SpamCop. I may resort to that, but looking at some of the filters to automate it has given me vertigo, so I'm putting it off till I have a better understanding of the filtering thing. ACM You could also try the filter be exclusion technique. ACM This one is based on the fact that if you filter mail ACM from everyone you expect mail from then everything ACM else should be spam. I personally do the following in ACM the order mentioned: Yes .. this is where I'm headed. I'm now running into ordering issues, so have kept your list. tnx. ACM PS// To be truthful, since I've obtained a primary MX ACM Server for my domain mail, my spam message influx has ACM been reduced from 20 spam messages a day to 1-2 per ACM week. Not an option here for some time to come, unfortunately. Attractive, though :-) I appreciate all the input - Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Monday, July 22, 2002, 3:28:25 PM, you wrote: so do I list this as 'sender', or as 'kludges', or what? DAC I'm using sender for those. Hmmm .. then I think my current problems must be mostly the order. Thanks, Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Tuesday, July 23, 2002, 10:13:11 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Lynn, RO On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:01:08 -0700GMT (23-7-02, 18:01 +0200GMT, where RO I live), you wrote: LT Because, as I mentioned in a previous mail, either I have LT to put them in my 'personal' AB, where I don't want them, LT even as a group, or make a new AB which would have to be LT made the default (as nearly as I can tell) to be used in LT the filters. RO When you define a new address book and create a group in there, you RO could test for the addresses being present in that group. RO I've used the same strategy in the past to add people to specific RO AB's. Yes, it's easy to add them, but when I went to build a filter, my choice was the default AB + it's groups. If this doesn't work out I'll have another look, but I don't want a thousand spam addresses in my main AB, nor do I really want to change the default. Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Hi all - I just want to thank everybody who helped out with this filtering. I think it's working fairly well now, though it could use some tweaking. I'm hoping to do that without hollering help, though :-) Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Monday, July 22, 2002, 8:49:10 AM, you wrote: [snip] TM I would suggest a little different approach. Put all your spam TM addresses in a 'spamers' AB group, then have your filter process TM against that AB group. That way you don't need to modify your filter TM each time you want to add a new spamer. All you would need to do is TM highlight the msg and Ctrl-W to add the new spamer to the AB Group and TM away you go... I'd rather not do this, if it can be avoided, but anyway ... see below ... TM btw, you would do this on the 'Advanced' tab most of the way to the TM bottom. Look for 'Address(es) must be listed in the address book:' TM section. I must be running an older version of TB than you are; the advanced tab in my sorting office/filters has no such box :-( I could upgrade, but have they fixed the memory leak does anybody know? Never mind, I probably wouldn't use the rtf viewer anyway ... Lynn Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Monday, July 22, 2002, 8:11:39 AM, you wrote: JA Yes... I think you're making a long AND query... so ALL the JA addresses JA would have to be listed. Move all but the first one to the JA alternatives page, and try running the filter again. I did that - moved all but the first address to the alternatives tab, by hitting 'add set' for each ... if I do that, it'll make the rule 'or'? Or should I have hit alt-ins ... ? At any rate, I fixed one of the smaller filters this way, and after I closed it a couple of them came in, not filtered ... Another thing - how can I add just the isp name to the filter? I get several mails a day from same domain, all with different prefixes and subjects .. would be nice to be able to add @spammail.com to the list somehow. I've tried that a couple of ways, but thanks again .. Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Monday, July 22, 2002, 1:03:51 PM, you wrote: [snip] LG It has, I'm sure about that. This setting has been there for quite a LG while now (as far back as my TB experience goes, which must be 1.47 LG Halloween Edition, IIRC). There is also a scroll bar on this tab which LG allows one to scroll down to more options. Yes, I found it .. but it only selects the default address book, so either you have to put all your spam addresses into your personal book (not acceptable), or have a separate spam AB as default .. also not workable. Unless I missed something? I really don't want to put a few hundred (thousand?) spam addys in there, even sorted to a separate group .. LG But most people tend to miss that little detail. ;-) That's the little detail I missed .. duh! I upgraded anyway .. I dl'ed it when the notice came in, just didn't get around to the install. Now it's done! Lynn 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Monday, July 22, 2002, 1:04:51 PM, you wrote: MDP Completely. In build 'q' of 1.60. 1.61 was 100% stable and 1.62 MDP is MDP now in beta. Keep up!! ;-) MDP - -- MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator Honey, if I could reduce this damn spam to a sensible level, I might be able to keep TB up to date! lol! Lynn 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Monday, July 22, 2002, 1:14:55 PM, you wrote: [snip] JA You use Add Set. I think alt-ins adds an AND to the OR statement. JA So it'd be like this: JA A or B AND C OK, I thought that might be the way it worked. JA Hrm... no idea. I'll go over them again .. who knows what I might have missed? Another thing - how can I add just the isp name to the filter? I get several mails a day from same domain, all with different prefixes and subjects .. would be nice to be able to add @spammail.com to the list somehow. I've tried that a couple of ways, but JA Have you tried adding just @spammail.com? I think you can, you may JA have to enable regexp though. I did, but now you mention it, I might not have checked the regexp box .. OK, will comb them for that, too. Tnx! Lynn 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters again
Monday, July 22, 2002, 1:36:41 PM, you wrote: [snip] DAC First, is there some advantage to having one filter with all the DAC alternative spam items, instead of a number of filters. I don't know .. but my filter list is so long that if I want to find one for some reason, it's an awful pain, and it's also a pain to sort. I thought if I grouped them, or some of them at least, it would be more manageable. Maybe not .. it's a 'let's try this' thing .. shrug Some of the stuff I'm filtering is legit mail that I just want to route to a particular folder .. newsletter stuff that they garble by giving each one a new name. Arrgghh! DAC Second, at least when you have one item per filter, you can have DAC sender just be spammail.com, and then you will catch @spammail.com, DAC @one.spammail.com, @spamsender.spammail.com, etc. If you just do DAC spammail and leave off the dot com, you will also get DAC @smapmail.hotmail.com Aha ... so do I list this as 'sender', or as 'kludges', or what? I wasn't sure if the '@' was necessary or not ... Thanks! Lynn 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/