Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-23 Thread P.Johnson
Hi Tony,
On Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 1:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TB Hello P.Johnson,

TB   A reminder of what P.Johnson on TBUDL typed on:
TB   23 November 2004 at 22:10:14 GMT -0600

 No, it's the Canadian football final;

TB  How can it be called Football when they keep picking it up with their
TB  hands and running off with it?  :)

Handball was already taken. :-)

-- 
Best wishes,
Pat

A Canadian in Houston
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Hang problem resolved WAS: Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-23 Thread P.Johnson
On Monday, November 22, 2004, 5:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PJ Well, I got the transfer sorted and TB! is now neatly installed on
PJ my new computer, but alas, there still seems to be a hang problem.
PJ I checked with the ISP and there is no problem there. I can only
PJ assume it is the new computer, possibly SP2 (though how that would
PJ affect one account in my email program I don't know) or a
PJ different conflict.

MB When you were first trying to sort out the hang problem, it was on
MB my mind to wonder if you were up to trying a beta.

MB..

MB Since you have WinRar you could easily get the 3.0.2.5rar or the
MB 3.0.2.6rar installed right over The Bat! files you have now.

MB That's if you wanted to sign up as a beta tester. All the developers
MB ask is that you use it normally--that's the minimum, and that's what I
MB do--and report any difficulties on the tbbeta list.

Mary already knows this, but for the benefit of others who may wonder,
I did sign up and download the latest beta release, and so far the
hang problem has been resolved. I'm still nervous every time the
Connection Centre pops up and starts downloading but I'm sure I'll get
over it. :-)

Thanks to those who were helpful and patient during what turned out to
be quite an ordeal; especially Mary, who hung in there with me long
into the stormy night. :-)

I don't think I realized until this past week how much I rely on TB!,
not just to receive mail but to organize keep records and sort out all
the different threads of my life. Whew!

-- 
Best wishes,
Pat

A Canadian in Houston
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Re: Hang problem resolved WAS: Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-23 Thread Maggie
Hi Pat,
11/23/2004 6:40:54 PM you wrote:

PJ I don't think I realized until this past week how much I rely on TB!,
PJ not just to receive mail but to organize keep records and sort out all
PJ the different threads of my life. Whew!

  I'm so glad you were able to work things out and you had power
  through the storms. I also use TB! for keeping records etc and would
  find myself out in the cold without it.

-- 

Regards,
  Maggie


If enough data is collected, anything may be proven by statistical methods.-- 
Williams and Holland's Law
 
   



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Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-22 Thread P.Johnson
Hello Greg,
On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 12:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the registry the program is called The Bat!. So should I still
 change it to TheBat2.0?

GS No, try re-written batch file below. If your on WinXP Pro or Win2k log
GS in as an admin user. Open text editor and simply copy and paste, then
GS save it in:

GS ...snip

Well, I got the transfer sorted and TB! is now neatly installed on my
new computer, but alas, there still seems to be a hang problem. I
checked with the ISP and there is no problem there. I can only assume
it is the new computer, possibly SP2 (though how that would affect one
account in my email program I don't know) or a different conflict.

 Thank you very much Greg, I appreciate your efforts to help, and your
 patience.

GS No problem the Packers just beat the Texans with a field goal with time
GS expiring so it is the least I can do.

Poor old Texans... I suppose I should be a fan but I'm not interested
in football at all (though Toronto just won the Grey Cup :-) ... no,
make that :-( as they beat the Lions).

-- 
Best wishes,
Pat

A Canadian in Houston
Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2



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Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-22 Thread P.Johnson
Hi Greg,
On Monday, November 22, 2004, 9:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, I got the transfer sorted and TB! is now neatly installed on my
 new computer, but alas, there still seems to be a hang problem.

GS Glad to hear you have it installed, sorry to hear about the hang
GS problem. What does the account log (Shft+Ctrl+A) say when the problem
GS occurs?

Nothing like a screenshot... www.tangleworld.com/screenshot.jpg . The
Connection Centre (upper left) is still hanging just like that as I
write, won't close, and the log (lower right) seems to think it's all
over. What is worse is that it is hanging on a different account now
(as well as the original). And to close TB! I must use the Task
Manager.

I should mention that clicking Abort All or End Task on the CC does
not help close it. Clicking the X makes it invisible, but it does
not close (at least TB! says something is still running).

 I checked with the ISP and there is no problem there. I can only
 assume it is the new computer, possibly SP2 (though how that would
 affect one account in my email program I don't know) or a different
 conflict.

GS...Have you checked the account transport settings
GS (Ctrl+Shft+P)?

Oh yes, many times. :-) There seems to be nothing wrong there.

 Poor old Texans... I suppose I should be a fan but I'm not interested
 in football at all (though Toronto just won the Grey Cup :-) ... no,
 make that :-( as they beat the Lions).

GS Is the Grey cup soccer? That sport is definitely growing in the
GS US.

No, it's the Canadian football final; Canadian football played like
its US counterpart only on a bigger field, only 3 downs, and some
other rule differences. This Grey Cup was the 92nd annual game. Also,
the final was played in an outdoor stadium, in NOVEMBER. Whoa. lol

Thanks again,

-- 
Best wishes,
Pat

A Canadian in Houston
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Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-21 Thread P.Johnson
Hello Tony,
On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 6:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 response suitable for a simpleton like me. :-) Any help any of you can
 provide would be very much appreciated.

TB  Hope I wasn't too technical in my reply to you Pat? I sent it before I
TB  read this.

Tony, no, your explanation was just fine. I asked for help here in
tbudl before I heard back from you, sorry.

I'll respond via PM with the problem I am having.

Thank you!!

-- 
Best wishes,
Pat

A Canadian in Houston
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Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file

2004-11-21 Thread P.Johnson
Hello Greg,
On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 10:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to do a specific backup and restore using a batch file, so
 that I can transfer my current TB over to my new computer. Tony Boom
 has very kindly given me instructions to do so, using Winrar as my zip
 program. The only problem I can see is that my TB folder is called
 TheBat2.0 for some reason (as opposed to The Bat!),
GS ^

GS So is your program files located in directory below?
GS C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0

Yes.

GS Is your mail directory located below the above directory so it would be
GS in the directory below?
GS C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0\MAIL
GS I'll assume yes.

Right you are. :-)

 I cannot change the name of the folder (believe me, I tried).

GS If you were logged out of TB and have WinXP Pro on NTFS file system you
GS are probably logged in as a limited user. Even if you were logged in as
GS Admin user I don't know if you would want to change it because TB may
GS not work afterwards. IIRC TB directory structure saved in other files
GS possibly registry which may throw things out of wack.

You lost me there, sorry. I do know that I couldn't change the name of
the directory; lost all the data files and had to go back (using
GoBack).

 My question is, what wording, if any, do I need to change in the
 following file:

GS See below:

 ---

 @Echo off

 Path C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe

GS Hopefully WinRAR is installed here on your PC so you shouldn't have to
GS make any changes, otherwise you have to make appropriate changes.

I have WinRAR installed in both computers now.

GS ...
GS So I am SWAG'ing it. I would try batch from Program directory
GS C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0\batch.bat which would put registry in
GS program directory to be latter compressed into backup file which would
GS be a good thing.  Otherwise you may have to run from root directory
GS C:\batch.bat

Lost in space. Sorry to be so thick. :-(

snip...

 if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg

GS I would rem the above line out because you want  registry backed up
GS provided you are going to use the exact directory structure on new
GS machine, otherwise I would just use TB backup and do a clean install
GS with it on new machine. So just put rem in front of above 2 lines.

I tried the TB backup and restore and sadly it didn't work for me,
which is why Tony's batch file transfer will be a godsend once I get
it to work. ...By now you probably know I couldn't rem something if my
life depended on it.

 start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg
 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

GS this backs up the registry to a file name TBbckup1.reg which is real
GS important for setting up later on new machine, otherwise you will have
GS to do a clean install. When you get the .reg file on the new machine
GS all you have to do is double click to put it in the registry.

All that worked very well; but the .reg file created a directory
called The Bat! and I am trying to install TheBat2.0. Anyway I
didn't get my mail program restored.

GS Remember
GS you may want to do a clean install with backup from TB backup utility
GS anyway. I am no expert here but think the only limitation on TB backup
GS utility is to have the same directory structure below the Mail
GS directory, whereas batch file backup requires both the same structure
GS for the program AND mail files.

I don't know why TB's backup  restore didn't work... maybe The Bat!
vs TheBat2.0 again.

GS Also the other thing to note here is how are you going to transfer the
GS backup files to the new PC. Are they hooked up on a network, or is
GS your mail base very small. If small then you may get away with a CD or
GS even a floppy. It all depends upon the size.

I copied the zip files to a CD, then opened it in my new computer.

snip...

 if exist C:\email\TBBackup.rar del C:\email\TBBackup.rar

GS deletes old WinRar file below the C:\email\ directory. If you are
GS going to use this line you will have to make sure directory structure
GS agrees, otherwise change to whatever you want.

I think all is ok here.

 C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program 
 Files\The Bat!

GS This is the actual backup. I would assume the switches in WinRAR will
GS backup all files in the directory and below, and WinRar is located in
GS the same directory. So if your Mail directory is located somewhere
GS else you will have to make changes. I am going to assume your Mail
GS directory is located below the program directory and your backup is
GS going to be in the C:\email\ directory. This being the case
GS then change the line to the following:

GS C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as
GS C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0

In the registry the program is called The Bat!. So should I still
change it to TheBat2.0?

 I hope I have explained this properly. I have absolutely no experience
 with batch files or this type of procedure, so please make your