Re[2]: Using TB from work and home
Hi, BR I was merely quoting the above from the fastmail.fm mail client setup: BR http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/imap/thebat.htm Sorry; I was of the impression you had edited this page in some way. In that case, please disregard. ;-) -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpkyyl6QQ1fa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Re[2]: Using TB from work and home
Hi Alto, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alto Speckhardt Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:48 AM To: Bob Riley Subject: Re[2]: Using TB from work and home Hi, BR I was merely quoting the above from the fastmail.fm mail client setup: BR http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/imap/thebat.htm Sorry; I was of the impression you had edited this page in some way. I know there are pages I am not qualified to edit! :) And I did actually appreciate your saying that the page was clearly dated and was done with an older version of TB. In that case, please disregard. ;-) I wept bitter tears for a while but then went for a walk and recovered. :) Thanks for your notes, which I have found to be informative. -- Have a great day over there in Deutschland. I suppose you have realized that 138 years ago, the Franco-Prussian War began! Next, I must tell you about Hermann Cheruski (aka Arminius) and the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest. Bon Jour! Bob Riley Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using TB from work and home
Hi Dwight, Friday, July 18, 2008, 5:05:37 PM, you wrote: I would be interested to know what features I am missing. I too tried lots of those other mailers, such as thunderbird, mulberry, pegasus, eudora, outlook, outlook express. I hated them all, and actually outlook the least. TB! has counting issues.To me, a mailbox which has eight messages but says 2 or 2 messages and says 8 once in a while is slightly annoying, but not a show stopper. You are clearly more knowledgeable about IMAP than I, but based upon the above, I now have set up TB for my Gmail IMAP and am liking it. The search functions work fine. I get all my messages, I can see from one machine to another what was sent, and I have all the good things about the bat which I like. Amen. I also liked Pegasus for POP for years, as I have mentioned. I've been running IMAP since version 2 and in version 2 it had problems. That is why I looked at most of those other choices. I'd feel no need to try anything else now, other than just curiosity. I just looked at the eudora/thunderbird hybrid's on line documentation today, and it doesn't even contain the work threading anywhere in the documentation, except in the wishlist section. If I have any further GREAT or TERRIBLY experience to report with TB for my Gmail IMAP (comparing it to, say, Outlook 2003 or Evolution), I'll post it. I gather that the main issue in TB with IMAP usage is the counting? I'm not too concerned about that, so far at least. -- Take Care, Bob -- Using The Bat! 4.0.26.2 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using TB from work and home
On Friday, July 18, 2008, 1:27:36 PM, Dwight Corrin wrote: On Thursday, July 17, 2008, 9:46:43 PM, Günter Minnerup wrote: I have such an archive account already, to keep my POP3 message base manageable. So what you're saying is simply move everything beyond the server quota into the archive account? exactly Well, thanks to you and everyone else who have helped me understand IMAP. Unfortunately, it has just been confirmed that my email provider does not support IMAP after all so I'll have to stick with POP until they (a university that calls itself world class) manage to bring their email system to 21st century standards. The current server quota of merely 20MB would, I fear, have made IMAP unworkable anyway, given the volume of email I receive. It also seems, if Alto is to be believed, that TB under IMAP is still a work in progress... Back to the drawing board... -- Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 4.0.24 Windows Vista Version 6 Build 6000 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using TB from work and home
On Thursday, July 17, 2008, 5:56:05 PM, Alto Speckhardt wrote: Hi Günter, I'm looking for the best way to achieve the above, i.e. having the entire message base (something like 70,000 messages) available at both locations. Just use IMAP instead of POP. Keep in mind that TheBat's IMAP is quite buggy at the moment though, so you might want to wait (and pay) for the repairs promised (once again) for v4.1. IMAP is no option, my email provider doesn't support it. No, Voyager is just TheBat-on-a-stick. You could run it from the stick carrying it with you all the time, but it doesn't have any more sync options than TheBat does. That's not what's suggested in the blurb on the Ritlabs site: Should you lose the flash-drive, you lose only a cheap memory device, but all the information will still be present in a backup file on one of your computers. Restoring the data to a new flash-disk will take just a few minutes. Your address book and email messages are ever at hand. The entire mail archive is available, you can search your email database at any time. -- Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 4.0.24 Windows Vista Version 6 Build 6000 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using TB from work and home
On Thursday, July 17, 2008, 9:59:39 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: This is what I do: Please note that I use good old POP, no IMAP. The Bat! runs on my work computer and on my home computer, but that is irrelevant. One or both of them could be running another email client, or even webmail. Both computers are set to leave messages on server. The main computer (which is the work computer for company email, and the home coputer for private email) is set to delete messages on server after 14 days. This ensures that incoming mails are downloaded to both computers, unless you are away from one of them for more than 14 days. For outgoing messages, I BCC to myself. This way, each outgoing message becomes an incoming message, which will be picked up by both computers. I have the same mails on both computers now. The only thing you have to do is synchronise the TBB files once, before you start the above plan. Sure, that keeps the message base available on both computers. But it also means that you have to plough through all incoming messages twice as they are downloaded to the other computer as unread. Isn't that annoying? On IMAP: I've just found out that it is an option after all - it wasn't last time I looked. But with my volume of mail, and rather limited email quota on the server (20MB last time I looked), it is not feasible to keep the message base on the server. Does IMAP allow me to download all messages to both computers but flagged as read if already dealt with on the other? -- Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 4.0.24 Windows Vista Version 6 Build 6000 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using TB from work and home
On Thursday, July 17, 2008, 9:43:15 PM, Alto Speckhardt wrote: IMAP is no option, my email provider doesn't support it. Well - it is what you are looking for. Go figure. ;-) As it turns out, IMAP is an option after all... But as it is impractical to keep my entire message base on the server, does IMAP allow me to: - download messages to both computers - flag messages as read when downloaded to the second computer - set TB! to delete message from the server periodically (say, every week, to stay within the quota) As I thought IMAP was unavailable to me, I haven't yet looked at it seriously so I don't know whether it will do what I want to achieve. -- Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 4.0.24 Windows Vista Version 6 Build 6000 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using TB from work and home
On Friday, July 18, 2008, 1:06:17 AM, Alto Speckhardt wrote: Yes, but you will have to create backups manually not to loose anything. You could do something like this: - On the work machine, use the IMAP account. - On the home machine, use the IMAP accound. - On the home machine, additionally create local folders with TheBat. Now you can access all incoming mail on the IMAP account from both machines. When you're nearing your quota, you can move some older messages from the IMAP account to the local folders on your home machine. When using TheBat, you could even work with automatic filtering. These messages will no longer be available from your work machine, but either you have the space on the server or you don't, that's just the price to pay. That makes some sense if I understand it correctly: with IMAP, the folder structure moves from the local computer to the server, and all of TB's filtering of the inbox to the folders therefore takes place at server level? And any local folder structure is an exact replica of the server's folder structure? And any operation on one is synchronised with the other? So that: If I have local folders on the home machine but not on the work machine, moving messages from the server to the local folders will delete it from the server and therefore from the folder structure on the work machine (which only replicates that on the server)? Quite a change from the familiar way of doing things under POP... -- Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 4.0.24 Windows Vista Version 6 Build 6000 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using TB from work and home
On Friday, July 18, 2008, 1:13:09 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: I have a dummy account for archiving on my desktop, which is password protected so that it doesn't regularly get in the way and TB doesn't try to operate on it all the time. When a mailbox gets up to 10,000 or so messages, I will move the older messages into my protected account and out of imap. On the odd occasion I need to look through really old messages, I can open my protected account and have a go. I may have done that 2 or 3 times so far this year. Depending on your quota, you may well have to archive more often. I have such an archive account already, to keep my POP3 message base manageable. So what you're saying is simply move everything beyond the server quota into the archive account? -- Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 4.0.24 Windows Vista Version 6 Build 6000 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
