On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Iain Hibbert wrote:
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Iain Hibbert wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Iain Hibbert wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:39:59AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote:
How?
And if that's something
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Iain Hibbert wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:39:59AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote:
How?
And if that's something that is supposed to be enabled, why does the
default install not just enable it?
Did you install
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Iain Hibbert wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Iain Hibbert wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:39:59AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote:
How?
And if that's something that is supposed to be enabled, why does the
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:39:59AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote:
How?
And if that's something that is supposed to be enabled, why does the
default install not just enable it?
Did you install by upgrading? If so, I think what you've run into
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012, Robert Elz wrote:
Date:Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:34:05 -0500
From:Thor Lancelot Simon t...@panix.com
Message-ID: 20121110003405.ga4...@panix.com
| No, the cprng named kernel is used _inside_ the kernel.
It hadn't occurred to me before that that
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012, Iain Hibbert wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012, Robert Elz wrote:
Date:Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:34:05 -0500
From:Thor Lancelot Simon t...@panix.com
Message-ID: 20121110003405.ga4...@panix.com
| No, the cprng named kernel is used _inside_ the
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 06:53:45PM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote:
FWIW, I agree with the notion that defaults should be at a path that is
~always in root; it's normal to have /var in a separate fileystem (at
least for old-school UNIX types; I realize the kids these days think
there should be one
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:36:14AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote:
In any case, for the entropy-file, the point is not whether one of these
styles is better than the other, but that the system should work
(fully) with either strategy, which means the entropy file should be
somewhere that the boot
Date:Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:39:47 -0500
From:Thor Lancelot Simon t...@panix.com
Message-ID: 20121110163947.ga1...@panix.com
| It's not as simple as you make it seem.
Oh, I know it isn't simple.
| The system should be able to run with readonly /.
Yes, it should
Hi
I get the above message during boot up. Every boot. Twice. At the same
place..
Why is it necessary to SHOUT a warning, about what seems to be a normal
occurrence?
regards,
iain
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 05:07:38PM +, Iain Hibbert wrote:
Hi
I get the above message during boot up. Every boot. Twice. At the same
place..
Why is it necessary to SHOUT a warning, about what seems to be a normal
occurrence?
It should not be a normal occurrence. Does your port
Date:Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:12:50 -0500
From:Thor Lancelot Simon t...@panix.com
Message-ID: 20121109171249.ga9...@panix.com
| It should not be a normal occurrence.
I see the same thing.
| Does your port support loading entropy from the bootblocks?
I have no idea,
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 05:07:38PM +, Iain Hibbert wrote:
I get the above message during boot up. Every boot. Twice. At the same
place..
Why is it necessary to SHOUT a warning, about what seems to be a normal
occurrence?
It should
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:39:59AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote:
How?
And if that's something that is supposed to be enabled, why does the
default install not just enable it?
Did you install by upgrading? If so, I think what you've run into is
that your boot loader configuration has the old
Date:Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:13:25 -0500
From:Thor Lancelot Simon t...@panix.com
Message-ID: 20121109181325.ga19...@panix.com
| Did you install by upgrading?
No, it is a fresh install off an install CD. It is on a virtualbox
running under Windows 7 (one day that
Hello all.
- Original Message -
From: Robert Elz
Sent: 11/09/12 11:33 PM
To: Thor Lancelot Simon
Subject: Re: cprng sysctl: WARNING pseudorandom rekeying.
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:13:25 -0500
From: Thor Lancelot Simon t...@panix.com
Message-ID: 20121109181325.ga19...@panix.com
Date:Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:20:38 +0100
From:Alexey Khramkov y...@gmx.ru
Message-ID: 20121109202039.143...@gmx.com
| I have separate /var partition.
Oh yes, of course - that never occurred to me, so do I - and that's
going to mean that a copy of the entropy file can't
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 02:33:57AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote:
And actually looking carefully at /var/log/messages its timestamps,
(rather than just the console without them) it seems as if it happens
a couple of hours after the system was booted.
That's more serious, then. That means
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 03:42:48AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote:
Date:Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:20:38 +0100
From:Alexey Khramkov y...@gmx.ru
Message-ID: 20121109202039.143...@gmx.com
| I have separate /var partition.
Oh yes, of course - that never occurred to me, so do
Date:Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:49:16 -0500
From:Thor Lancelot Simon t...@panix.com
Message-ID: 20121109224916.gb29...@panix.com
| Ah, right! You need to edit rc.conf and boot.cfg to reflect this. Some
| systems put the entropy file in /etc for this reason.
I installed
FWIW, I agree with the notion that defaults should be at a path that is
~always in root; it's normal to have /var in a separate fileystem (at
least for old-school UNIX types; I realize the kids these days think
there should be one whole-disk fs as /).
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On Nov 10, 6:33am, Robert Elz wrote:
} Subject: Re: cprng sysctl: WARNING pseudorandom rekeying.
} Date:Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:49:16 -0500
} From:Thor Lancelot Simon t...@panix.com
} Message-ID: 20121109224916.gb29...@panix.com
}
} | Ah, right! You need to edit
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:53:45 -0500
From: Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com
FWIW, I agree with the notion that defaults should be at a path that is
~always in root; it's normal to have /var in a separate fileystem (at
least for old-school UNIX types; I realize the kids these days think
Date:Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:02:24 +
From:Taylor R Campbell campbell+netbsd-tech-k...@mumble.net
Message-ID: 2012111144.b11bb60...@jupiter.mumble.net
| It has always made me a trifle nervous that there are various things
| such as dhcp clients touching
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 06:33:59AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote:
| That's more serious, then. That means something on your system is pulling
| a comparatively huge number of bits from the general-purpose kernel RNG
| instance, and nothing's putting enough bits into the pool to rekey it.
Date:Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:34:05 -0500
From:Thor Lancelot Simon t...@panix.com
Message-ID: 20121110003405.ga4...@panix.com
| No, the cprng named kernel is used _inside_ the kernel. It shouldn't
| be depleted by use of ssh.
OK. Can you suggest some possible kernel
[...] I realize the kids these days think there should be one
whole-disk fs as / [...]
To be fair, sometimes that's a right answer. Loosely put, it's a right
answer whenever running out of space on any filesystem is equally bad
and it's fine for that to mean running out of space on all.
On
Date:Fri, 9 Nov 2012 23:01:30 -0500 (EST)
From:Mouse mo...@rodents-montreal.org
Message-ID: 201211100401.xaa23...@sparkle.rodents-montreal.org
| To be fair, sometimes that's a right answer. Loosely put, it's a right
| answer whenever running out of space on any
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