go through the initial setup without creating a
root and without adding a user to the wheel group
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015490
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ia or Basic
> Release Criteria [2].
I'd say this is a Beta (or possibly Final, although I'm not sure if I
believe that) criterion for now. When/if ostree variants become our
primary desktop deliverable, moving it to Basic would make sense to
me.
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disabled
Currently fedora-release and fedora-repos are in a pre-release state.
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this process exists but it only works if you nominate
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Podman between 4.4.2 -> 4.4.3 or a different config file in F38. This
does not appear to be specific to the shadow-utils package.
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> Here's a second draft. I took feedback here and also from the QA meeting [1].
> The split between the milestones makes this harder to read and compare. If
> you have better ideas on how to do it, please tell me :-)
I l
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xdg-desktop-portal-kde is launching and crashing when SDDM launches
the Wayland greeter
When the greeter launches, xdg-desktop-portal-kde also launches and
crashes. This appears to only happen on Wayland.
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meone to think Joe's Fancy Pew Pew Pew Game having a glitchy
display would violate this.
> I think this criterion could target F38 Beta Release Criteria [3] or Basic
> Release Criteria [4].
Definitely Basic for the same reason as Neal gave.
e. This may be the result of a SimpleDRM device not being
created.
10. totem — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176726 — NEW
totem crashes everytime when users try to delete a video
Deleting a video results in an application crash, but only when there
is only one video.
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to manage.
I'm in favor of dropping dates from the title.
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pkgconf — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2172406 — ON_QA
Don't depend on system-rpm-config
pkgconf pulls in ~22 new packages as a runtime dependency, which don't
appear to be strictly necessary. FEDORA-2023-766817d642 contains a
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sometimes triggers a kwin crash. This may be
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uses Fedora's LimeSurvey instance. Responses are anonymous.
[1] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/f37-retrospective-survey-open/
[2] https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/37
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show_bug.cgi?id=2164667 — ASSIGNED
KDE crashes on start with mesa-23.0.0~rc3-3.fc38
A recent mesa update caused both GNOME and KDE to crash on start.
Update FEDORA-2023-40b973fa06 fixed GNOME, but KDE is still seeing
this issue. The root cause is still uncertain.
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Sure, no problem. I was under the assumption that the packager
dashboard parsed the json file and not the ics file, so this change
may be more impactful than I thought. But I'll wait until you've had a
chance to look.
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he html or json versions are produced.
[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/schedule/issue/91
[2] https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/schedule/issue/91#comment-838492
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There are no nominated prioritized bugs, so I'm cancelling this week's
meeting. I follow up with the currently accepted bugs out of band. The
next meeting is scheduled for 25 January.
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screens are not mirrored
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2143358
In addition, we'll follow up on the accepted bugs:
* It is possible to go through the initial setup without creating a
root and without adding a user to the wheel group
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show
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We will discuss the following nominated bug:
* ABRT on KDE can't store any passwords: Secret Service is not available
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2141237
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This does not
sync to remote calendar servers (e.g. Google Calendar) and resets on
restart of the calendar service.
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verity bug is fixed in an openssl release due Tuesday 1
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but not creating) a WPA2 Enterprise wifi connection without a
stored password (e.g for authentication that uses tokens) causes
Control Center to freeze. The connection cannot be removed through the
GUI. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/1905
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On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:54 PM Adam Williamson
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> Does anyone object to these proposed changes? Thanks!
Ship it!
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FEDORA-2022-1a5b125ac6 contains a candidate fix.
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FEDORA-2022-fcb3b063a6 contains a build to fix the vulnerability.
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* Systemd causes PC Speaker to emit a loud beep during
reboot/poweroff, after suspend&resume
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2129387
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ug.cgi?id=2127618 — NEW
Nautilus thumbnailing doesn't work on hidpi screens
When an image that does not already have a thumbnail, Nautilus has a
heavy CPU load while it is showing the directory. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/-/issues/2487
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Other functionality works. Reported upstream as
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or virtual terminals. It
looks like this may have never worked. It looks like an issue with how
layouts are mapped between console and xkb. Adam is thinking about how
to approach this:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121106#c24
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t; That implies that we also need to work out how to present them on
> getfedora.org.
The Edition teams should be working with the Websites team to make
that happen. I'll check with them to see how that's progressing.
[1] https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/11031
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get dragged in reviews if it doesn't work"
sorts of things.
The wording looks good to me. I'm trying to think of an escape hatch
we can give ourselves if it goes particularly sideways at some point,
but maybe the "difficult to fix" exception would be good enough.
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devices would result in an unbounded wait for reboot. This is observed
across multiple Fedora Linux releases. FEDORA-2022-ccb0138bb6 contains
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you're interested.
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results in IoT tests with many
failing services. https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/ostree/pull-request/8
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trd.img . An upstream fix has been released in F35,
F36, and F37 updates, but it does not appear to fully solve the
problem on F37 and Rawhide. See also RHBZ 2119633.
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f KDE Plasma, you end up at a console on tty2. SDDM
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A rather important scheduling conflict has arisen, so there will be no
prioritized bugs meeting this week.
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accepted bug:
* Get rid of multiple source path definitions
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2079833
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- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2079833
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t if there were particular topics to dig into, I'm open to
suggestions.
If there's something that last year's talk left unanswered that you
want me to dig into, please let me know off-list.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9NWVYTXj_I
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On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 1:03 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
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> If you missed the announcement at the release party, the F36 release
> retrospective survey is now open:
> https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/231354
Whoops! That's the F35 link. The correct survey link is
https://fedoraproj
Community Blog in June..
[1] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/f35-retrospective-results/
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On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 2:41 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
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> We are now targeting target date #2 (2022-05-10). If we slip again, we
> won't release until after the Release Party!
That should be target date #3, of course. The date is still 2022-05-10.
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oses the application shortly after deleting the
contact, it's not actually deleted and will appear the next time
Contacts is launched. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-contacts/-/issues/241
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ix[1], I expect
most tests should carry over just fine.
As a reminder, our next go/no-go meeting is Thursday 5 May.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test
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tried to reproduce it using the steps in the bug, but I haven't
been able to. That could be entirely a Me Problem™ though.
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2071228
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sessions.
Proposed blockers
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* Lenovo ThinkPad T490, unable to boot following clean install, stuck
at splash screen
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1955416
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The vesa driver checks for the presence of a directory that no longer
exists since the switch to simpledrm in this release. Upstream MR
contains a candidate fix
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-vesa/-/merge_requests/5
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Enterprise wi-fi network fails. Adding the
UnsafeLegacyRenegotiation in openssl.cnf allows the network connection
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except in "rpm-ostree", but no one would argue
that the criterion doesn't cover managing RPMs. That said, there's
some benefit to being explicit. I suppose my take is "sure, I guess."
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Attempting to download a file in a Chromium-based browser causes the
file picker to crash on Xwayland. FEDORA-2022-f8681a48e6 contains a
candidate fix, however it may be incomplete. The process crash is
gone, but an error message is displayed and the save window expands to
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see some SIGs receive it, but Cloud doesn't seem
to. And there's no clear call-to-action for the SIGs. That could be a
low-effort way to potentially improve engagement from SIGs.
[1]
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all do a tremendous
job. And I don't want to suggest that _all_ of the testing be pushed
out onto other teams. But I'd like to start a conversation on how we
can spread the responsibility out more. This should hopefully make
everyone's life a little easier and make our Go/No-Go meeting
67151 — NEW
Basic graphics mode broken for KDE (BIOS/UEFI) and GNOME (UEFI+X11)
Basic graphics mode in F36 KDE is broken universally. For GNOME, it is
broken, but only on X11+EFI. It is unclear if these are the same or
separate issues. All combinations work as expected in F35.
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Under some conditions, setting show-upgrade-prerelease does not result
in Software showing an available update. Reproducing has been spotty,
and there's an emerging consensus that if this is a bug, it's better
suited as a Final blocker.
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t's why we saw
no pushback on the list, in the QA meeting, or in the Blocker Review
meeting. Everyone understands that this makes sense. But for the
purposes of release criteria, it's better to be explicit than
implicit.
We're not adding a
n/systemd/network/.
Passing network kernel arguments (e.g. to set the nameserver) at boot
causes a failure in systemd-network-generator due to an SELinux
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[3] https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/389#comment-785482
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2. dnfdragora — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2060414 — NEW
On Fedora 36 KDE, dnfdragora does not start.
dnfdragora fails with a libyui error. There seems to be a bootstrap
issue because libyui-bindings is part of libyui now. The question of
whether two graphical package managers
I'm inclined to favor Adam's interpretation and say the existing
criteria covers this. But let me put it this way: are there cases
where we'd care about a browser version trailing that *aren't* covered
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?
I think it's sound enough to start using. I'm sure we'll find all
sorts of edge cases to argue over and eventually fix. That's the
Fedora Way™.
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initial-setup. An upstream PR reverts the partial fix while a better
long-term solution is found:
https://github.com/clalancette/oz/pull/297
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3. pipewire — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2054921 — NEW
dnf system-upgrade 35 to 36 fails with various pipewire wireplumber conflicts
Package conflicts exist between pipewire-media-session and
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ses, particularly with language packs. It appears that a
robust fix is technically difficult, and the Change owners are
discussing reverting this Change for F36 (see BZ 2013327).
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scheduled, but if
there are times that are obviously favoriable, then I'll use that.
If you're not sure what meeting I'm talking about, the Prioritized
Bugs process is documented at:
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nautilus and not tar.
Stylistically, I like the idea of making the list of application types
and the examples given below into a table. That seems easier to
understand, although I see arguments for leaving it as-is. I suggest
this change, but will not lobby for it beyond this suggestion. :-)
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* "fedpkg lint" dies with rpmlint-2.0.0: rpmlint: error: unrecognized
arguments: -f
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1967821
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ses, but doesn't give the intended experience, then our
criteria/tests are wrong.
We'll never be able to test everything exactly, but if there's a way
we can close the gap in a sustainable way, we should do that.
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There are no nominated or accepted bugs, so tomorrow's meeting is
canceled. The 29 December meeting is also canceled. If you have any
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know directly and I can help.
If you know what specific update fixed it, please note that in the
comments for historical reference.
Thanks,
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 3:56 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> Now that we've released F35, I'd like to share the first semi-annual
> release retrospective survey:
> https:/
elpful Bugzilla tips" docs and potentially making videos for them.
Mainly, what I'd need to get started is some things that people want
to know. I've been around Bugzilla long enough to have lost track of
what "everyone knows".
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https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/
Note that ChangeSet pages and schedules are not moving, at least for now.
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_QA_Retrospective
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eet without you, but I don't see anything on
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the original requirement into something like this:
> * configure software sources by enabling/disabling pre-defined official
> repositories and then adjust the available software pool accordingly
>
> Does it sound better?
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me which exact buttons/operations must work.
>
I'm on board with the enable/disable part for sure. I'm not sure how I
feel about the adding new repos part. I think I'm weakly opposed to
including it. One, it adds to the number of things we need to test.
Two, and more importantly, m
n adjust the available software pool accordingly
Do we want to make it clear that it's not intended to allow the user
to *add* a new repository? Or is that understood?
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There are no currently accepted prioritized bugs.
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t. Alternatively we could move the
> whole thing out to a new section, I guess.
>
+1 to your proposal, including the "it's sort of in the wrong section,
but we'll live" part. It's worth fixing the oversight with minimal
overhead.
duction seems elusive. We're
working with Vexxhost to see if they can provide additional
troubleshooting help.
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We will discuss the following nominated bug:
* gnome-shell: gnome-shell killed by SIGSEGV —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1960938
There are no currently accepted prioritized bugs.
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Many fewer blockers than last week. Hooray! Go/No-Go for target date
#1 is Thursday.
Action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. geoclue2 — time is transiently incorrect when Automatic Time Zone
is enabled — MODIFIED
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2021-14f2ed62fd
2.
. uboot-tools — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2010449 — ON_QA
uboot-tools-2021.10 is available
A new uboot-tools release is available. Not having this in installer
images generates additional support effort for the entire stable
release cycle. Update FEDORA-2021-b1079b7042 contains
.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/
>
We will evaluate the following bug:
* gnome-shell: gnome-shell killed by SIGSEGV —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1960938
There are no open accepted prioritized bugs.
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Fedora Program
r TLS request
and gets no response, so it wait until it times out. Disabling DNS
over TLS avoids the problem. The issue is present regardless of signal
strength and is reproducible with a restart of the NetworkManager
service.
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Ben Cotton
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Fedora
ccount to Online Account
Trying to add a Google account causes Online Accounts to crash. Update
FEDORA-2021-c58350f4c8 contains a candidate fix.
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Ben Cotton
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Fedora Program Manager
Red Hat
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We will be holding the F35 Beta Go/No-Go meeting tomorrow at 1700 UTC
in #fedora-meeting. For more information, see the calendar event[1] or
wiki page[2].
[1] https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/Fedora%20release/#m10064
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting
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Ben Cotton
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ocs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/
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We will evaluate the following nominated bugs:
* Screen stays black after suspend / logout when used on amd apu
laptop. — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1988528
There are no currently-accepted bugs.
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ed after it has been
removed. Restarting the Software background process clears this. This
appears likely to be rejected as a Beta blocker based on current
votes, but may be considered for Final.
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Ben Cotton
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Fedora Program Manager
Red Hat
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hen the discussion picked back up.
But yeah, I'm definitely flexible on the timing. I think the reason we
went with a number was to avoid getting bogged down in what
"reasonable" meant. But the existing criterion has its own ambiguity,
so if we can make it better*, we should.
* But what
Hi folks,
Halfline has provided a candidate fix for BZ 1996998. Please get the
build from Koji[1] and test.
[1] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=75662323
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He / Him / His
Fedora Program Manager
Red Hat
TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis
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