On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 7:29 AM Matthias Clasen wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 1:23 PM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>
> Wading into this discussion pretty late... there's far too much "GNOME does
> this" or "GNOME wants that" in this discussion.
>
> That is really not how it works, neither for GNO
On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 1:23 PM Matthew Miller
wrote:
Wading into this discussion pretty late... there's far too much "GNOME does
this" or "GNOME wants that" in this discussion.
That is really not how it works, neither for GNOME nor for Fedora - its
down to small teams and individual maintainers
On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 05:47:33PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > So, um, maybe this is another place we could talk with GNOME upstream.
> > Could we have those upstream tests run on Rawhide?
> >
> > Also: where does GNOME _expect_ the human-based QA to happen? Especially
> > for the applicatio
On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 19:04 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2022 at 09:20:35PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > We could look at what it would take to upstream the app tests we have
> > already for Fedora. What I'm afraid of is that we'd wind up finding
> > some subtle difference in
On Tue, May 03, 2022 at 09:20:35PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> We could look at what it would take to upstream the app tests we have
> already for Fedora. What I'm afraid of is that we'd wind up finding
> some subtle difference in theme or font rendering meant we'd have to
> duplicate all the n
On Tue, May 03, 2022 at 05:14:53PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> but these bugs weren't discovered at that time. This is likely because
> of your idea 2: "basic functionality" is a bit up for debate. You can
> take an extremely minimalist approach to this (run the app, click a
> couple of buttons
On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 02:46:16PM +0200, Kamil Paral wrote:
> > popularity and reviews noting how polished everything is makes us very much
> > want to build on that. So I understand why this is here, including the
> > expanded "all installed applications" Workstation criteria.
> As Adam already n
On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 10:27 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> ...
> > Do GNOME users actually use Contacts and Calendar and Photos? I mean,
> > I'm kind of a GNOME ultra, and I don't.
> ...
>
> One of the reasons we need metrics is so we can answer these questions
> using actual
On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 11:35 AM Allan Day wrote:
> That said, my own personal sense is that Calendar is used to some
> extent, and Contacts and Photos are used much less. That is somewhat
> reflected in the app reviews:
>
> Firefox - 7236 reviews, 3.4 average rating
> gedit - 896 reviews, 4.0 ave
On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 2:15 AM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> > 1. I know we have had GNOME Test days, but this
> >stuff didn't come up. Presumably, it would have if someone had
> happened
> >to look at GNOME Photos. Can we formally go through
> >https://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testca
On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:13 AM Matthew Miller
wrote:
>
> Time to talk about
>
> https://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_36_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_application_functionality
> again!
>
> Lots of desktop-app-related blockers this time around, and last time too. I
> think we're hitting a s
On Tue, 2022-05-03 at 19:37 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Tue, May 3 2022 at 05:14:53 PM -0700, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> > Stable releases of core components of a major desktop should never
> > contain bugs like "deleting contacts sometimes doesn't work" or "you
> > can't add photos to a
On Tue, 2022-05-03 at 18:13 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Time to talk about
> https://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_36_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_application_functionality
> again!
>
> Lots of desktop-app-related blockers this time around, and last time too. I
> think we're hitting a sym
Time to talk about
https://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_36_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_application_functionality
again!
Lots of desktop-app-related blockers this time around, and last time too. I
think we're hitting a symptom-of-our-success problem here: increasing
popularity and reviews
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