Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
On Thu, 2016-11-03 at 08:27 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote: > Hi, > I want to tell, that with the new 65GB Sandisk Ultra stick sent just > from Sandisk, the F25 Beta installation is ok. Great, happy end. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
Hi, I want to tell, that with the new 65GB Sandisk Ultra stick sent just from Sandisk, the F25 Beta installation is ok. From the talks with Sandisk, I feel that Sandisk knew the reason, why the installation failed with the previous stick, my idea the firmware of the stick has changed before the production of the current one, but who knows except Sandisk. Kind regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Joerg Lechner An: test Verschickt: Mo, 24 Okt 2016 5:16 pm Betreff: Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda Hi, have told Sandisk the story, they said they don't make sticks to do OS installations and they said i should return the stick, they will send another one, which will work. So we will see, what happens when the stick is replaced. Kind regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Joerg Lechner An: test Verschickt: So, 23 Okt 2016 10:58 am Betreff: Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda Hi, I have just made a f3 test, the stick is ok, I attach the result. If it's an interference of Acer Laptop, Sandisk USB 65GB stick and Fedora, I have started discussions with Acer and Sandisk, Sandisks first answer will come in a few working days. Acer said that the Bios manufacterer is Inside H2O, if anyone knows Bioses like that. [joerg@linux media]$ su Passwort: [root@linux media]# f3write --start-at=1 --end-at=65 /run/media/joerg/sandiskTest Free space: 57.19 GB Creating file 1.h2w ... OK! Creating file 2.h2w ... OK! , Data OK: 57.17 GB (119900264 sectors) Data LOST: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Corrupted: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Slightly changed: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Overwritten: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Average reading speed: 40.26 MB/s [root@linux media]# Kind regards , ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
Hi, have told Sandisk the story, they said they don't make sticks to do OS installations and they said i should return the stick, they will send another one, which will work. So we will see, what happens when the stick is replaced. Kind regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Joerg Lechner An: test Verschickt: So, 23 Okt 2016 10:58 am Betreff: Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda Hi, I have just made a f3 test, the stick is ok, I attach the result. If it's an interference of Acer Laptop, Sandisk USB 65GB stick and Fedora, I have started discussions with Acer and Sandisk, Sandisks first answer will come in a few working days. Acer said that the Bios manufacterer is Inside H2O, if anyone knows Bioses like that. [joerg@linux media]$ su Passwort: [root@linux media]# f3write --start-at=1 --end-at=65 /run/media/joerg/sandiskTest Free space: 57.19 GB Creating file 1.h2w ... OK! Creating file 2.h2w ... OK! , Data OK: 57.17 GB (119900264 sectors) Data LOST: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Corrupted: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Slightly changed: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Overwritten: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Average reading speed: 40.26 MB/s [root@linux media]# Kind regards , ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
0 Validating file 20.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 21.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 22.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 23.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 24.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 25.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 26.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 27.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 28.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 29.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 30.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 31.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 32.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 33.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 34.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 35.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 36.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 37.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 38.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 39.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 40.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 41.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 42.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 43.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 44.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 45.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 46.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 47.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 48.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 49.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 50.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 51.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 52.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 53.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 54.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 55.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 56.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 57.h2w ... 2097152/0/ 0/ 0 Validating file 58.h2w ... 362600/0/ 0/ 0 Data OK: 57.17 GB (119900264 sectors) Data LOST: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Corrupted: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Slightly changed: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Overwritten: 0.00 Byte (0 sectors) Average reading speed: 40.26 MB/s [root@linux media]# Kind regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Chris Murphy An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases Verschickt: Sa, 22 Okt 2016 10:03 pm Betreff: Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 12:50 AM, Pavlo Rudyi wrote:> On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 23:30 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:>> Hi,>> need advice. Problem installing F25 on an Sandisk Ultra USB 3.0 65GB>> stick in UEFI mode. Works for a 32GB Sandisk Ultra, but not for the>> 65GB stick.>> PC is an Acer Laptop, 2 years old, Win 8.1.>> Tried now netinstall with the 65GB stick for 2 times instead of>> Workstation Live. In the first trial the installation stopped at>> file 1114 of 1413, in the second trial it stopped at 1089 of 1413.>> Try to install minimum OS only, then boot, run `dnf groupinstall> "what_you_want"` and see your problem packages.Without logs there's no way of knowing why something "doesn't work".I've seen quite a lot of SD card reader flip out with anything above32GiB cards, and just plain do weird shit. I have no idea if that's afactor in this case or not. Another thing is there's a lot of fakeflash out in the world. No matter what the brand supposedly is, orwhere you got it, it's worth using f3 on it, or Gnome Multiwriter alsohas a test for fake flash - the manifestation of which is corruptionas the flash loops over itself. So long as only data is being written,this spoofing of the flash can last quite a while only destroyingpreviously written data silently. But as fs metadata gets stepped on,eventually the fs will face plant. Some file systems tolerate this farlonger than others.-- Chris Murphy___test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 12:50 AM, Pavlo Rudyi wrote: > On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 23:30 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote: >> Hi, >> need advice. Problem installing F25 on an Sandisk Ultra USB 3.0 65GB >> stick in UEFI mode. Works for a 32GB Sandisk Ultra, but not for the >> 65GB stick. >> PC is an Acer Laptop, 2 years old, Win 8.1. >> Tried now netinstall with the 65GB stick for 2 times instead of >> Workstation Live. In the first trial the installation stopped at >> file 1114 of 1413, in the second trial it stopped at 1089 of 1413. > > Try to install minimum OS only, then boot, run `dnf groupinstall > "what_you_want"` and see your problem packages. Without logs there's no way of knowing why something "doesn't work". I've seen quite a lot of SD card reader flip out with anything above 32GiB cards, and just plain do weird shit. I have no idea if that's a factor in this case or not. Another thing is there's a lot of fake flash out in the world. No matter what the brand supposedly is, or where you got it, it's worth using f3 on it, or Gnome Multiwriter also has a test for fake flash - the manifestation of which is corruption as the flash loops over itself. So long as only data is being written, this spoofing of the flash can last quite a while only destroying previously written data silently. But as fs metadata gets stepped on, eventually the fs will face plant. Some file systems tolerate this far longer than others. -- Chris Murphy ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
Hi, now I have installed F25 successfully on an external 1TB sata disk, PC always a 2 years old Acer Laptop. There remains only the problem of installing F24 or F25 on a Sandisk Ultra 65GB usb stick. It is not understandable that the F25 installation is ok on a 32GB Sandisk Ultra and not ok on a 65GB Sandisk Ultra. For this I will ask Sandisk. In addition I have tried to do F25 netinstall on the 65GB stick and on the 1TB external disk, didn't work, I think for some reason -I don't know why- connection cut by the server timeout. This was for the 65GB stick the first try at file 1114 from 1413 files, second try at file 1089 from 1413 files, with the 1TB disk it was at selinux-policy-targeted.noarch this was file 1291 of 1413 files. A F24 netinstall installation on the 1TB external disk was successful and F24 bootable. Kind regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Pavlo Rudyi An: test Verschickt: Sa, 22 Okt 2016 8:50 am Betreff: Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 23:30 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:> Hi,> need advice. Problem installing F25 on an Sandisk Ultra USB 3.0 65GB> stick in UEFI mode. Works for a 32GB Sandisk Ultra, but not for the> 65GB stick.> PC is an Acer Laptop, 2 years old, Win 8.1.> Tried now netinstall with the 65GB stick for 2 times instead of> Workstation Live. In the first trial the installation stopped at> file 1114 of 1413, in the second trial it stopped at 1089 of 1413. Try to install minimum OS only, then boot, run `dnf groupinstall"what_you_want"` and see your problem packages.-- ___test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 23:30 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote: > Hi, > need advice. Problem installing F25 on an Sandisk Ultra USB 3.0 65GB > stick in UEFI mode. Works for a 32GB Sandisk Ultra, but not for the > 65GB stick. > PC is an Acer Laptop, 2 years old, Win 8.1. > Tried now netinstall with the 65GB stick for 2 times instead of > Workstation Live. In the first trial the installation stopped at > file 1114 of 1413, in the second trial it stopped at 1089 of 1413. Try to install minimum OS only, then boot, run `dnf groupinstall "what_you_want"` and see your problem packages. -- ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
Hi, need advice. Problem installing F25 on an Sandisk Ultra USB 3.0 65GB stick in UEFI mode. Works for a 32GB Sandisk Ultra, but not for the 65GB stick. PC is an Acer Laptop, 2 years old, Win 8.1. Tried now netinstall with the 65GB stick for 2 times instead of Workstation Live. In the first trial the installation stopped at file 1114 of 1413, in the second trial it stopped at 1089 of 1413. Is it normal, that the connection breaks down sometimes, or is this more my connection (My internet provuder is a cable TV company), normally I don't see line interruptions. As a further trial I will try to clone my working F25 installation from the 32GB stick to the 65GB stick with Clonezilla, but so far I think I don't use Clonezilla correctly. Did anyone successfully Clone Fedora (F25) with Clonezilla, or another clone program? Reason I get now a 1 TB used internal sata disk, which I want to use as an external drive (USB 2.0 adapter), but previously I have tried an external pata disk (some hundred MB) and got the same error as I get so far with the 65GB USB flash medium in EFI. Legacy is ok. Kind regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Pavlo Rudyi An: test Verschickt: Fr, 21 Okt 2016 3:02 pm Betreff: Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda > Installation on an Sandisk Ultra 65GB -- Dracut Error, as I have> tested > now, the same error occurs for F22 to F25> Installation in legacy mode on > 32Gb and 65GB for F24 and F25 ok. AFAIR Sandisk Flashes always had some > "strange" problems like a 2xplaying speed in car receivers. Try to check all > packages in chroot via"rpm -Va".> Now I had a live Chat with Acer Support > (Acer says always we make> Windows PCs, linux is not our beer),F** Acer, the > standard of horrible hardware. > Is it possible to transfer a Lecacy > installation to EFI? In the Acer> language by "changing", adding or patching > drivers?> Kind regards> Yep, you need the EFI partition, grub2-efi, shim and > efibootmgr:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2#Updating_GRUB_2_configuration_on_UEFI_systemsIMHO > this is not UEFI problem.___test > mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to > test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
> Installation on an Sandisk Ultra 65GB -- Dracut Error, as I have > tested now, the same error occurs for F22 to F25 > Installation in legacy mode on 32Gb and 65GB for F24 and F25 ok. AFAIR Sandisk Flashes always had some "strange" problems like a 2x playing speed in car receivers. Try to check all packages in chroot via "rpm -Va". > Now I had a live Chat with Acer Support (Acer says always we make > Windows PCs, linux is not our beer), F** Acer, the standard of horrible hardware. > Is it possible to transfer a Lecacy installation to EFI? In the Acer > language by "changing", adding or patching drivers? > Kind regards > Yep, you need the EFI partition, grub2-efi, shim and efibootmgr: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2#Updating_GRUB_2_configuration_on_ UEFI_systems IMHO this is not UEFI problem. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
Hi, currently this problem seems to be only mine. PC: Acer Laptop, 2 years old, Aspire E15 E5-571G Installation of F25 Beta workstation EFI mode on a Sandisk Ultra USB 3.0 32GB flash medium ok (as it was for F22 - F24) Installation on an Sandisk Ultra 65GB -- Dracut Error, as I have tested now, the same error occurs for F22 to F25 Installation in legacy mode on 32Gb and 65GB for F24 and F25 ok. Now I had a live Chat with Acer Support (Acer says always we make Windows PCs, linux is not our beer), but in the Chat today I got: "Grundsätzlich ist nur zu beachten, dass Legacy bei derInstallation von Linux aktiviert ist und nach der Installation jenach Linux Version auf UEFI umgestellt wird." I try to translate: Legacy is in the installing process of Linux activated. And will be repositioned depending on the Linux version to UEFI. "Es gibt Linux Version, die lassen sich nur im Legacy installieren,nach der Installation hat Linux aber grafische Fehler, weswegen manauf UEFI umstellen muss. Das hat an sich mit der Treiberanbindung zutun." Translation: There are Linux versions, which can only be installed in Legacy mode, after installation Linux has grafical errors, therefore it has to transferred to UEFI. The reason is driver connection. So far what I got from Acer. Therefore this problem seems to be at least partly in the interworking of Acer Bios (EFI) and F25 ?Anaconda? So far that's all what I currently know about. Is it possible to transfer a Lecacy installation to EFI? In the Acer language by "changing", adding or patching drivers? Kind regards ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
Hi Richard, it's disappointing, when this problem will be solved after the final release of F25. In this case I will skip F25 and take part again in F26/F27 as soon as this problem will be solved. My Acer laptop is 2 years old, Bios updated (V1.32 published in 2016/04/07). Kind regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Richard Ryniker An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases Verschickt: Di, 18 Okt 2016 3:37 pm Betreff: Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda >install F25 Beta in legacy mode on an 64GB flash medium. And surprise >it>works.I think this suggests there is some configuration or BIOS problem >withEFI and USB in your machine. Both Chris Murphy and I performedsuccessful >EFI installations, he with Apple and I with Samsung hardware.It may be >impossible to accurately gauge the prevalence of this problemwith the limited >hardware coverage available for pre-release tests. Onthe positive side, you >have discovered a way to avoid the issue that mayhelp other users who >experience similar >difficulty.___test mailing list -- >test@lists.fedoraproject.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to >test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda
>install F25 Beta in legacy mode on an 64GB flash medium. And surprise it >works. I think this suggests there is some configuration or BIOS problem with EFI and USB in your machine. Both Chris Murphy and I performed successful EFI installations, he with Apple and I with Samsung hardware. It may be impossible to accurately gauge the prevalence of this problem with the limited hardware coverage available for pre-release tests. On the positive side, you have discovered a way to avoid the issue that may help other users who experience similar difficulty. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
