This is why you don't want someone that knows nothing about caving as an editor
of a caving publication.
Diana
On Jan 18, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Mark Minton via Texascavers
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My experience with reporters has generally been less accommodating than
George's.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for the sort of reporters who will
write for publication about things they know nothing about, which puts
them beneath contempt. But there are good reporters and bad ones. A
good one will record interviews and at least get the quotes right. My
guess is that
I never allowed anyone to review the lies that I published as truth when I
was a journalist. I depended on my own self to make everyone free with the
truth.
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
This is why you don't want someone
It was interesting to see the image the Park Service chose to attach to their
announcement of the listening sessions.
I hope that does not mean that comments will fall on stone-deaf ears.
Here is how THAT Great Idea started in 1920
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My experience with reporters has generally been less accommodating than
George's. Most have not been willing to allow me to review their work
before publication. A couple of notable exceptions have been The New
Yorker and National Geographic, both of which seem to be very
conscientious about
Interesting series of comments. Pity that Blair is not able to chime in.
I must admit that my experiences are closer to Marks than to Georges. It's
asking a lot to review a story before publication.
All of us who appreciate the folk process (like Charlie) certainly know the
famous quote
The Editor-in-Chief wrote back to me saying how upset he was to hear about
thus, and that he will be fixing it first thing in the morning.
-Tucek
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On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
I wouldn't agree with
My experience with the press has been much like Mark Minton's: Some good; some
disastrous.
National Geographic was very conscientious as was Texas Highways.
My relationship with AM Press (the Pittman book, Texas Caves) was so bad as to
be almost black humor. Suffice to say that despite
Mixon, he was a student, not an idiot.
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On Jan 18, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
I don't have a lot of sympathy for the sort of reporters who will write for
publication about things they know nothing about, which
Wow. So glad I took him caving. I mean, how else could I widely spread how
ignorant I am about caves. Barton Springs salamanders in Whirlpool Cave? As if!
Never did I even mention endangered anything!
That's the last time I take a reporter caving. Like I need any help putting
black marks on my
To Heather Tucek,
Maybe I should not have posted that Alcalde article. I was once interviewed by
a student newspaper reporter. I never made that mistake again. You are right,
Sheesh!
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Heather,
Don't worry about it. The rules for dealing with the media are:
1. They never get it right.
2. If they quote you, they always pick the stupidest thing you say (or didn't
say).
3. Most people forget the article as soon as they read it.
Allan
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Printing inaccurate information, especially something glaring like that,
that an environmental employee for the government didn't say... could be
considered libel. He needs to fact check better.
On 18 January 2015 at 10:49, AC via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
wrote:
Heather,
*OK. As some of you may know I worked for the fith estate for nearly 12
years as a sports editor for a small paper. I wrote lots of sports stories
from Pop Warner to the Super Bowl. I had a column twice a week in which I
wrote what ever I thought would be funny or poke some one. I drew political
What black marks. You let people know something they didn't know and might
have made a positive point in the grand scheme of things. Onward thru the
fog.
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
Wow. So glad I took him caving. I mean,
I wouldn't agree with that at all. They may get the dumbest thing you said
so why say dumb things. Dumb things are what we like to see on TV or read
about. Dumb is good. I love dumb movies and dumb stories. I thrive on dumb.
People forget everything minutes later so it doesn't matter much unless
Dumb is different than wildly inaccurate.
On 18 January 2015 at 18:18, Charles Loving via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
I wouldn't agree with that at all. They may get the dumbest thing you said
so why say dumb things. Dumb things are what we like to see on TV or read
about.
Well spoken, George. It is always most helpful when you can put yourself in the
other person's shoes.
DirtDoc
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Heather and everyone,
Many cavers have long held the positions:
* don't trust or talk to the media because they will screw up what you
tell them, and
* we need the public to better understand caves to care about and help
protect them.
The problem is that we need the media to
Well said, George !
Jerry.
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On Jan 18, 2015, at 1:22 PM, George Veni via Texascavers
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Heather and everyone,
Many cavers have long held the positions:
· don’t trust or talk to the media because they will screw up what
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