Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] Fwd: public lands encounter

2016-01-04 Thread Jerry via Texascavers
Nicely said, Stephen. One of the great evils of the world is "belligerent ignorance." Neither the public nor, unfortunately, many of the public land use tenants, are really well educated on the issue of public lands. But most will argue with you on some facet of misuse in their opinion, whethe

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] public lands encounter

2016-01-04 Thread Bob Booth via Texascavers
You don't have to have ArcGIS to view/use the data offline (though if you do, it is a great tool). ArcGIS Explorer Desktop (Free, Esri) lets you add locally stored shapefile and GDB data. (http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/explorer-desktop) QGIS (Free, Open Source) supports locally stored shapefi

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] public lands encounter

2016-01-04 Thread Stephen Fleming via Texascavers
On 1/4/2016 14:14, Charles Goldsmith wrote: I'm not sure how often the maps are updated BLM maps are updated on irregular schedules that usually are dictated by how much needs correcting. Some maps go many years without changes. Generally, unless there is an active land swap ongoing (a year

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] public lands encounter

2016-01-04 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
Go right ahead and try it. There’s 27 million acres of Federal lands in New Mexico and almost 3 million in Texas; if even 10% of that acreage is BLM land with suitable grazing leases, you still might find it economically unsustainable to pay those leases by charging recreational user—especially

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] public lands encounter

2016-01-04 Thread Nancy Weaver via Texascavers
oh those entitled welfare ranchers. time for recreational users to bid on grazing leases and get the damn cows (and ranchers) off public lands nancy weaver ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: h

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] public lands encounter

2016-01-04 Thread Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers
I had found this app for my iphone about a year ago: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/us-public-lands/id723185418?mt=8 I'm not sure how often the maps are updated for it, but it's handy since it will use your GPS to show you on the map where you are. I also do not know if there is an android/windo

[Texascavers] Fwd: [SWR] public lands encounter

2016-01-04 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
Begin forwarded message: From: Evelyn Townsend mailto:karstpat...@gmail.com>> Subject: [SWR] public lands encounter Date: January 4, 2016 at 1:08:37 PM CST To: SWR Cavers mailto:s...@caver.net>> Hello Cavers and public land users, Its not just Oregon and Nevada (a December 30, 2015 story.) I

[Texascavers] Winter TSA Meeting!

2016-01-04 Thread Heather Tucek via Texascavers
We will be holding the TSA Winter Business Meeting on this coming Sunday, January 10, 2016. Since this weekend is also the fourth Colorado Bend State Park TSA project weekend of the season (January 8-10), we will be setting up camp at the CBSP Conference Center (house above the waterfall) instead