Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-09-01 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Terry Plemons, Ed, Fito and I were in the village and talked to the mayor. We were doing a tour of the river and the mines in the mountains. We talked to him about Carrizal and he allowed as how it was dangerous and that it should have a gate to fence to keep people from wandering in. He was well

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-09-01 Thread Gill Ediger via Texascavers
People who were raised around chickens, pigeons, and other birds in large numbers often have a good resistance to histo as a result of being continuously inoculated. Most of them never knew they were sick as the doses and reactions were small but cumulative enough render them nominally immune

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Bruce Anderson via Texascavers
] Grutas del Carrizal just a few months ago a boy scout troop visited the cave and many kids got histo.. El ago. 31, 2016 3:16 PM, "Gill Ediger via Texascavers" <texascavers@texascavers.com <mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> > escribió: Moni--I would suggest that

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Nico Escamilla via Texascavers
just a few months ago a boy scout troop visited the cave and many kids got histo.. El ago. 31, 2016 3:16 PM, "Gill Ediger via Texascavers" < texascavers@texascavers.com> escribió: > Moni--I would suggest that you not visit Cueva de Carrizal and not take or > send anyone else there. There have

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología AC . via Texascavers
Gill thank you. The situation is this.. The Secretary of Tourism create a project to use the cave for tourism, they tender a project of ecotourism and sustainability in the cave. A constructor win the tender. The cave have an incident in the month of march, 25 people (teachers and students

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-31 Thread Gill Ediger via Texascavers
Moni--I would suggest that you not visit Cueva de Carrizal and not take or send anyone else there. There have been sufficient incidents  of people getting histoplasmosis to warn them there is a danger of contacting a lung fungus. Only people with a known or demonstrated resistance to histo

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-27 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Moni: Visited the cave in 2000 in the winter when the bats were gone. The mayor was afraid that there was still histo there and we all wore masks. I was with Terry Raines the first time we dove the syphon into the back parts of the cave. On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Asociación Coahuilense de

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-27 Thread Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología AC . via Texascavers
thank you Bill, is a wonderful information... but is all the investigation the cavers did in this cave, no more a recently years? Moni 2016-08-26 20:13 GMT-05:00 Mixon Bill via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com>: > Moni -- Map of Grutta de Carrizal is at >

Re: [Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-26 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
Moni -- Map of Grutta de Carrizal is at http://www.mexicancaves.org/maps/1825.pdf Original description of the cave is in AMCS bulletin 1 http://www.mexicancaves.org/bul/bul1.pdf (~100 MB) There is a long article on drowning accident in Carrizal in old AMCS Newsletter vol 3 #4, at

[Texascavers] Grutas del Carrizal

2016-08-26 Thread Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología AC . via Texascavers
Hi Friends I need your help I need information about the Carrizales Cave on Candela, NL/ Lampazos, NL some of you visit this cave, the people named "Cueva Maldita" because have Histoplamosis. I know some of you visit that cave since 1967 Gill Ediger or in other time Peter Strikland, Rodolfo