Howdy Texas Cavers,
This week we get to hear what was discovered at the cave near Mason, TX,
which a landowner was awesome enough to invite us to checkout at the last
grotto meeting. Then Pete Strickland will share his video of Deep Cave. I
think we all will be glad to see Pete back at the grott
Check the TSA web site for more details:
http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TSASC/tsasc2013.php
Come to the DFW grotto meeting next Wednesday, March 27 to learn more about the
Convention.
I will be looking for people to carpool with me, I plan to leave before 3 PM on
Friday (it takes about 5 hour
FYI:
-- Forwarded Message
From: Wm Shrewsbury
Reply-To:
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:53:00 -0400
To:
Subject: RE: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the upcoming budget proposal before
the bo
Here is a forward by a Florida caver of NSS President Wm Shrewsbury's summary
of the budget situation and the proposal to cease a printed NSS News.
Roger G. Moore
This is a response by Wm Shrewsbury to the proposal to end the printed NSS News.
Wendy
-Original Message-
From: Wm Sh
texascavers Digest 20 Mar 2013 04:25:50 - Issue 1725
Topics (messages 21464 through 21476):
At the Washington monument
21464 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
Fees Announcement for the TSA Spring Meeting, April 5-7
21465 by: caverarch
UT Grotto Meeting Match 20th
21466 by: And
Howdy Texas Cavers,
This week we get to hear what was discovered at the cave near Mason, TX,
which a landowner was awesome enough to invite us to checkout at the last
grotto meeting. Then Pete Strickland will share his video of Deep Cave. I
think we all will be glad to see Pete back at the grott
Check the TSA web site for more details:
http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TSASC/tsasc2013.php
Come to the DFW grotto meeting next Wednesday, March 27 to learn more about the
Convention.
I will be looking for people to carpool with me, I plan to leave before 3 PM on
Friday (it takes about 5 hour
FYI:
-- Forwarded Message
From: Wm Shrewsbury
Reply-To:
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:53:00 -0400
To:
Subject: RE: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the upcoming budget proposal before
the board. This post is a ³quick² synopsis a
Here is a forward by a Florida caver of NSS President Wm Shrewsbury's summary
of the budget situation and the proposal to cease a printed NSS News.
Roger G. Moore
This is a response by Wm Shrewsbury to the proposal to end the printed NSS News.
Wendy
-Original Message-
From: Wm Sh
texascavers Digest 20 Mar 2013 04:25:50 - Issue 1725
Topics (messages 21464 through 21476):
At the Washington monument
21464 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
Fees Announcement for the TSA Spring Meeting, April 5-7
21465 by: caverarch
UT Grotto Meeting Match 20th
21466 by: And
Hi friends..
I want to dedicate this month by all of you!
You are my family and I'm a very lucky to have a wonderful texas caver
family!
I don't want to forget, that you are very important in my life.
Thanks for help me and support me in all my Cancer treatments
I had 3 years with out cancer, th
FYI to Texas Cavers:
There is apparently a proposal being presented at this Saturday¹s NSS Board
of Governor¹s meeting to end delivery of the printed NSS News as part of
your regular NSS membership. This news has generated considerable recent
comment on the Western US caving lists, and has caught t
Read all about it in the March 23 BOG Meeting topic: http://cavechat.org/
Phil
On Mar 19, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Frank Binney wrote:
> FYI to Texas Cavers:
> There is apparently a proposal being presented at this Saturday’s NSS Board
> of Governor’s meeting to end delivery of the printed NSS News as
Excuse me? Cancel our printed magazine? I think not. Something like that would
need to be voted on by all members. They can cut corners another way, for I
personally read as little as possible on line. Besides, our printed library
would suffer!
Mimi Jasek
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2013,
Wonder if this one'll drag on as long as the TSA newsletter discussion of the
same? ;-)
Cheers,
Stefan
From: Phil Winkler [mailto:pw...@dca.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:16 PM
To: Frank Binney
Cc: Texas Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News
Read all about
The sooner the News is available in high rez PDF, the better. It is
_long_ overdue. Higher quality and, most importantly, searchable. It's
way past time to bring the publication up to the equivalent of LED
lights and nylon replacing manila ropes and carbide lights. There are
substantial savings
I think the NSS should pursue the concept that the TSA and other
organizations have. Give people an option for an online version or mailed
version (or both). With TSA and some grottos that have tried that approach,
the number of people who've preferred the online version vs printed version
and dr
Just to throw my two cents in: I recently completed a long and arduous move
during which I discovered that I have more belongings than any sane person
should have (which should say something about my current state). The bulk of
those belongings, I discovered, were several forests worth of trees
The NSS News is _the_ tangible benefit that most NSS members get. If I
stopped getting it on paper, I might just drop my membership, if I
wasn't in the ~ 10 percent of members who attend the convention and
get a registration discount equal to dues (and if I wasn't a life
member). Has the ov
Gosh, Bill, I said almost the exact same thing in the letter I sent to the BOG
an hour or so ago. Just did not post it. For us, though, we do not go to
conventions outside of Texas for many reasons, and have never gotten life
memberships. So the NSS News is our only tangible benefit!
Jim thinks
hmmm. The BOG meeting is this weekend. It might be a good time to contact
your Director.
Ray
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Hewitt
To: nssw...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
If the NSS news
The following was posted to the Texas Caver list: - Lee Skinner
From: Wm Shrewsbury
Reply-To:
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:53:00 -0400
To:
Subject: RE: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the upcoming budget proposal before
the board.
Thanks Lee,
Regards,
John
From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Lee
H. Skinner
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:43 PM
To: SWR Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fw: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
The following was posted to the Texas Ca
Hi friends..
I want to dedicate this month by all of you!
You are my family and I'm a very lucky to have a wonderful texas caver
family!
I don't want to forget, that you are very important in my life.
Thanks for help me and support me in all my Cancer treatments
I had 3 years with out cancer, th
FYI to Texas Cavers:
There is apparently a proposal being presented at this Saturday¹s NSS Board
of Governor¹s meeting to end delivery of the printed NSS News as part of
your regular NSS membership. This news has generated considerable recent
comment on the Western US caving lists, and has caught t
Read all about it in the March 23 BOG Meeting topic: http://cavechat.org/
Phil
On Mar 19, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Frank Binney wrote:
> FYI to Texas Cavers:
> There is apparently a proposal being presented at this Saturday’s NSS Board
> of Governor’s meeting to end delivery of the printed NSS News as
Excuse me? Cancel our printed magazine? I think not. Something like that would
need to be voted on by all members. They can cut corners another way, for I
personally read as little as possible on line. Besides, our printed library
would suffer!
Mimi Jasek
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2013,
Wonder if this one'll drag on as long as the TSA newsletter discussion of the
same? ;-)
Cheers,
Stefan
From: Phil Winkler [mailto:pw...@dca.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:16 PM
To: Frank Binney
Cc: Texas Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News
Read all about
The sooner the News is available in high rez PDF, the better. It is
_long_ overdue. Higher quality and, most importantly, searchable. It's
way past time to bring the publication up to the equivalent of LED
lights and nylon replacing manila ropes and carbide lights. There are
substantial savings
I think the NSS should pursue the concept that the TSA and other
organizations have. Give people an option for an online version or mailed
version (or both). With TSA and some grottos that have tried that approach,
the number of people who've preferred the online version vs printed version
and dr
Just to throw my two cents in: I recently completed a long and arduous move
during which I discovered that I have more belongings than any sane person
should have (which should say something about my current state). The bulk of
those belongings, I discovered, were several forests worth of trees
The NSS News is _the_ tangible benefit that most NSS members get. If I
stopped getting it on paper, I might just drop my membership, if I
wasn't in the ~ 10 percent of members who attend the convention and
get a registration discount equal to dues (and if I wasn't a life
member). Has the ov
Gosh, Bill, I said almost the exact same thing in the letter I sent to the BOG
an hour or so ago. Just did not post it. For us, though, we do not go to
conventions outside of Texas for many reasons, and have never gotten life
memberships. So the NSS News is our only tangible benefit!
Jim thinks
hmmm. The BOG meeting is this weekend. It might be a good time to contact
your Director.
Ray
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Hewitt
To: nssw...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
If the NSS news
The following was posted to the Texas Caver list: - Lee Skinner
From: Wm Shrewsbury
Reply-To:
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:53:00 -0400
To:
Subject: RE: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the upc
Thanks Lee,
Regards,
John
From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Lee
H. Skinner
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:43 PM
To: SWR Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fw: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
The following was posted to the Texas Ca
Howdy Texas Cavers,
This week we get to hear what was discovered at the cave near Mason, TX,
which a landowner was awesome enough to invite us to checkout at the last
grotto meeting. Then Pete Strickland will share his video of Deep Cave. I
think we all will be glad to see Pete back at the grott
Check the TSA web site for more details:
http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TSASC/tsasc2013.php
Come to the DFW grotto meeting next Wednesday, March 27 to learn more about the
Convention.
I will be looking for people to carpool with me, I plan to leave before 3 PM on
Friday (it takes about 5 hour
FYI:
-- Forwarded Message
From: Wm Shrewsbury
Reply-To:
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:53:00 -0400
To:
Subject: RE: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the upcoming budget proposal before
the bo
Here is a forward by a Florida caver of NSS President Wm Shrewsbury's summary
of the budget situation and the proposal to cease a printed NSS News.
Roger G. Moore
This is a response by Wm Shrewsbury to the proposal to end the printed NSS News.
Wendy
-Original Message-
From: Wm Sh
texascavers Digest 20 Mar 2013 04:25:50 - Issue 1725
Topics (messages 21464 through 21476):
At the Washington monument
21464 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
Fees Announcement for the TSA Spring Meeting, April 5-7
21465 by: caverarch
UT Grotto Meeting Match 20th
21466 by: And
Hi friends..
I want to dedicate this month by all of you!
You are my family and I'm a very lucky to have a wonderful texas caver
family!
I don't want to forget, that you are very important in my life.
Thanks for help me and support me in all my Cancer treatments
I had 3 years with out cancer, th
FYI to Texas Cavers:
There is apparently a proposal being presented at this Saturday¹s NSS Board
of Governor¹s meeting to end delivery of the printed NSS News as part of
your regular NSS membership. This news has generated considerable recent
comment on the Western US caving lists, and has caught t
Read all about it in the March 23 BOG Meeting topic: http://cavechat.org/
Phil
On Mar 19, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Frank Binney wrote:
> FYI to Texas Cavers:
> There is apparently a proposal being presented at this Saturday’s NSS Board
> of Governor’s meeting to end delivery of the printed NSS News as
Excuse me? Cancel our printed magazine? I think not. Something like that would
need to be voted on by all members. They can cut corners another way, for I
personally read as little as possible on line. Besides, our printed library
would suffer!
Mimi Jasek
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2013,
Wonder if this one'll drag on as long as the TSA newsletter discussion of the
same? ;-)
Cheers,
Stefan
From: Phil Winkler [mailto:pw...@dca.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:16 PM
To: Frank Binney
Cc: Texas Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News
Read all about
The sooner the News is available in high rez PDF, the better. It is
_long_ overdue. Higher quality and, most importantly, searchable. It's
way past time to bring the publication up to the equivalent of LED
lights and nylon replacing manila ropes and carbide lights. There are
substantial savings
I think the NSS should pursue the concept that the TSA and other
organizations have. Give people an option for an online version or mailed
version (or both). With TSA and some grottos that have tried that approach,
the number of people who've preferred the online version vs printed version
and dr
Just to throw my two cents in: I recently completed a long and arduous move
during which I discovered that I have more belongings than any sane person
should have (which should say something about my current state). The bulk of
those belongings, I discovered, were several forests worth of trees
The NSS News is _the_ tangible benefit that most NSS members get. If I
stopped getting it on paper, I might just drop my membership, if I
wasn't in the ~ 10 percent of members who attend the convention and
get a registration discount equal to dues (and if I wasn't a life
member). Has the ov
Gosh, Bill, I said almost the exact same thing in the letter I sent to the BOG
an hour or so ago. Just did not post it. For us, though, we do not go to
conventions outside of Texas for many reasons, and have never gotten life
memberships. So the NSS News is our only tangible benefit!
Jim thinks
hmmm. The BOG meeting is this weekend. It might be a good time to contact
your Director.
Ray
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Hewitt
To: nssw...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
If the NSS news
The following was posted to the Texas Caver list: - Lee Skinner
From: Wm Shrewsbury
Reply-To:
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:53:00 -0400
To:
Subject: RE: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the upc
Thanks Lee,
Regards,
John
From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Lee
H. Skinner
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:43 PM
To: SWR Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fw: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News
The following was posted to the Texas Ca
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