Re: [SWR] A New Thread: Crawlways

2014-03-11 Thread John Lyles
I cannot remember any one crawl that stands out as the worst to me, but working in Ft Stanton Cave, GypKap, McKittrick Hill and Lechuguilla Cave all have memorable low and difficult crawls. In FSC, the dig I started in Helictite Hall with Aaron Stockton was pretty tight at first. It got better

Re: [SWR] A New Thread: Crawlways

2014-03-11 Thread Janice Tucker
Hmmm...definitely the most tiring crawl of my caving experience was returning from Harmony Hall in Snowy River. The 2 longish crawls on Snowy River are relatively easy crawls, but you have to be careful not to brush the ceiling to avoid getting manganese or mud on the white calcite floor. The trip

Re: [SWR] A New Thread: Crawlways

2014-03-11 Thread DONALD G. DAVIS
Ken Harrington wrote: >In 1966 or 1967 four of us set off for a two day dig in Russell's Crawl. M= >embers of the party as I remember were Gary Davis=2C Ed Glenn=2C Ed Snyder = >and myself. We entered the cave on Friday evening and proceeded to the dig= > face at the end of Russell's Crawl

[SWR] Announcement: INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON GROUNDWATER IN KARST

2014-03-11 Thread George Veni
Dear Friends, Below is an announcement of an important conference that will be held next year. Please share this with anyone who may be interested. For more information contact Dr. John Gunn at: j.gun...@bham.ac.uk. George - KG@B 2015 I

Re: [SWR] A New Thread: Crawlways

2014-03-11 Thread Ed Snyder
I remember following Ken in Russell's and we were in that tight spot and I could hear Ken's heart beating. I also heard the dog barking. Maybe it was the dog's heart beating... -Ed Snyder- Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Ken Harrington > wrote: > > In 1966 or 1967 four o

Re: [SWR] A New Thread: Crawlways

2014-03-11 Thread Harvey DuChene
Sometime around 1966, I was on a trip in Fort Stanton and we were digging at the end of Hell Hole II (I think it was Hell Hole II, anyway). I remember the passage as low and wide with a flat rock floor and a ceiling like a ratchet. The space between floor and ceiling was just large enough for me to

Re: [SWR] A New Thread: Crawlways

2014-03-11 Thread Mark Minton
Jerry Atkinson reminded me about another infamous crawlway we worked on in Langtry Lead Cave in West Texas. In the back of the cave is a pit that periodically fills with water after big rains and overflows into a body-tight crawl. The crawl has airflow and is a good lead, but it was alm

Re: [SWR] A New Thread: Crawlways

2014-03-11 Thread Ken Harrington
In 1966 or 1967 four of us set off for a two day dig in Russell's Crawl. Members of the party as I remember were Gary Davis, Ed Glenn, Ed Snyder and myself. We entered the cave on Friday evening and proceeded to the dig face at the end of Russell's Crawl. At that time the Hoeman's Passage had

Re: [SWR] A New Thread: Crawlways

2014-03-11 Thread Michael Lorimer
I remember my first trip through the infamous Russell's Crawl.� It was in 1971 or there about.� The sand siphon is only 6 inches high and it descends at a 15% angle.� One has to dig the sand out, push the sand behind you and literally bury yourse

Re: [SWR] A New Thread: Crawlways

2014-03-11 Thread Gary Moss
Years ago after a long Windy Mouth trip (West Va) with Hixson we were coming out the 900 foot hands and knees entrance crawl when the caver in front of me fell asleep. I was on pure auto-pilot at that point and crawled over him and did not know I did it until after I was beyond him. He did wa

Re: [SWR] A New Thread: Crawlways

2014-03-11 Thread Steve Peerman
Mike, An interesting topic, and it brings back memories -- but not of Fool's Crawl, because I wasn't on any of those trips. I've never been through Fool's Crawl -- it had to have been someone else. One interesting crawlway memory that I have involves Russell's Crawl, not far