Re: [Texascavers] Ezell's cave gating in the news:
For free access view just Google: making a good entrance san marcos It should be at the top of your search results. There are 8 great photos posted with the article. Kimberly Hartzog khart...@peloton-sa.com On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Julia Germany via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Nice photo. Unfortunately, I am not a subscriber to the ExpressNews, and therefore cannot read the article. Anyone out there who can send the text to this listserv? Julia G Germany germa...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Jerry via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sun, Mar 8, 2015 11:43 pm Subject: [Texascavers] Ezell's cave gating in the news: Making a good entrance: Cavers hope new structure brings a colony back By Richard A. Marini http://www.expressnews.com/author/richard-marini/ March 8, 2015 http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Making-a-good-entrance-6122521.php [image: Galen Falgout, left, and Gregg Williams, lower right, help build a gate at the entrance to Ezell's Cave in San Marcos, Sunday, March 8, 2015. Volunteers with the Texas Cave Management Association spent the day working on the gate. The new gate will replace one installed to keep trespassers out of the cave. Unfortunately, it also prevented the bats from entering and exiting very easily. Photo: JERRY LARA, San Antonio Express-News / © 2015 San Antonio Express-News] ___ Texascavers mailing list |http://texascavers.comtexascav...@texascavers.com | Archives:http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -- *Confidentiality Notice:* This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy the original and all copies of the message. Thank you. *Property Information Disclaimer:* All information provided by Peloton Commercial Real Estate (PCRE) with respect to any buildings or premises has been obtained by PCRE from the owner of the building, parties hired by or affiliated with the owner, or from sources which PCRE reasonably believes to be reliable . To the best knowledge and belief of PCRE that information is accurate. However, neither PCRE nor any of its agents, employees or contractors makes, nor will they make, any representations, warranties or promises regarding the accuracy of such information. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] 2013 Mexican cave-diving expeditions videos
A nice half-hour video financed by Red Bull on the British cave-diving expedition to Sistema Huautla in 2013 is at http://www.redbull.tv/episodes/1393399865559-638517006/journey-to-inner-earth There is a shorter video put together by the expedition at http://youtu.be/iajDjEX6jqY (Chris Jewell's very nice hour-long presentation on the same expedition presented to the UT Grotto days after the end of the expedition is still on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM4vh6zvBpk ) There is a short video of the 2013 J2 expedition at http://room608.com/the-cave. This appears to be a short version of the Discovery Channel video of the expedition put together by the production company for advertising purposes. I'm told that the Discovery Channel may never broadcast their full program on the expedition in the US, although it has been seen in Europe. These video links were sent to me by Ernie Garza, Bill Steele, and Logan McNatt. -- Mixon Dum vivimus, vivamus! You may reply to the address this message (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Ezell's cave gating in the news:
Thanks, Jon! I'll make sure that the history of gate construction and management if Ezell's Cave is properly archived in the TSS files. Jerry. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Jon via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: That is a nice news story and quite the volunteer turnout, nice work. Unfortunately however the historical background given the reporter was not correct. The bats were not eliminated from the Ezell's Cave by the installation of the recently removed cave gate but were excluded when a previous owner placed a steel plate over the entrance in the early 60's because of fear of liability suits. The property was sold to the Nature Conservancy in the late 60's with substantial help from the SWT Grotto. Through the 70's the Nature Conservancy tried several different methods of trespasser and vandal control with varying success. If you are interested in the history of Ezell's Cave read through Nature History of Texas Caves page 94 - 99. There were several attempts made to reintroduce bats into the cave after the steel plates were removed and it was an open entrance but there was no success, the bats were not interested in staying. In the early 80's the Edwards Aquifer Research and Data Center At TSU was ramping up the research portion and hired Dr. Albert Ogden. Ezell's Cave was an ideal monitoring location of the aquifer, however the instruments that Dr. Ogden was placing in the cave were suffering vandalism and therefore loss of data. The Conservancy was approached about paying for a gate but it wasn't until two students that were trespassing fell down the entrance climb and were injured requiring rescue the Nature Conservancy agreed to have a gate installed. After the Conservancy agreed to install a gate a meeting was held with Dr. Merlin Tuttle at the Wyoming NSS convention and then later when he was visiting central Texas (prior to BCI moving to Austin) a meeting was setup with the local Nature Conservancy staff and the several local San Marcos caver volunteers for Dr. Tuttle and the Conservancy biologist to recommend and review a design. Everyone agreed that it should work for the bat ingress egress, it was open enough to not disrupt the surface water flow into the cave, and tight enough to stop trespassers from entering into the cave. The gate was constructed and installed as designed by bat experts at the time. In the last few years several small (maybe tricolor) bats have been seen and reported in the cave in the winter. Respectfully submitted, Jon Cradit On Monday, March 9, 2015 9:39 AM, Kimberly Hartzog via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: For free access view just Google: making a good entrance san marcos It should be at the top of your search results. There are 8 great photos posted with the article. Kimberly Hartzog khart...@peloton-sa.com On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Julia Germany via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Nice photo. Unfortunately, I am not a subscriber to the ExpressNews, and therefore cannot read the article. Anyone out there who can send the text to this listserv? Julia G Germany germa...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Jerry via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sun, Mar 8, 2015 11:43 pm Subject: [Texascavers] Ezell's cave gating in the news: Making a good entrance: Cavers hope new structure brings a colony back By Richard A. Marini March 8, 2015 http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Making-a-good-entrance-6122521.php ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy the original and all copies of the message. Thank you. Property Information Disclaimer: All information provided by Peloton Commercial Real Estate (PCRE) with respect to any buildings or premises has been obtained by PCRE from the owner of the building, parties hired by or affiliated with the owner, or from sources which PCRE reasonably believes to be reliable . To the
Re: [Texascavers] Ezell's cave gating in the news:
That is a nice news story and quite the volunteer turnout, nice work.Unfortunately however the historical background given the reporter was not correct. The bats were not eliminated from the Ezell's Cave by the installation of the recently removed cave gate but were excluded when a previous owner placed a steel plate over the entrance in the early 60's because of fear of liability suits. The property was sold to the Nature Conservancy in the late 60's with substantial help from the SWT Grotto. Through the 70's the Nature Conservancy tried several different methods of trespasser and vandal control with varying success. If you are interested in the history of Ezell's Cave read through Nature History of Texas Caves page 94 - 99. There were several attempts made to reintroduce bats into the cave after the steel plates were removed and it was an open entrance but there was no success, the bats were not interested in staying. In the early 80's the Edwards Aquifer Research and Data Center At TSU was ramping up the research portion and hired Dr. Albert Ogden. Ezell's Cave was an ideal monitoring location of the aquifer, however the instruments that Dr. Ogden was placing in the cave were suffering vandalism and therefore loss of data. The Conservancy was approached about paying for a gate but it wasn't until two students that were trespassing fell down the entrance climb and were injured requiring rescue the Nature Conservancy agreed to have a gate installed. After the Conservancy agreed to install a gate a meeting was held with Dr. Merlin Tuttle at the Wyoming NSS convention and then later when he was visiting central Texas (prior to BCI moving to Austin) a meeting was setup with the local Nature Conservancy staff and the several local San Marcos caver volunteers for Dr. Tuttle and the Conservancy biologist to recommend and review a design. Everyone agreed that it should work for the bat ingress egress, it was open enough to not disrupt the surface water flow into the cave, and tight enough to stop trespassers from entering into the cave. The gate was constructed and installed as designed by bat experts at the time. In the last few years several small (maybe tricolor) bats have been seen and reported in the cave in the winter. Respectfully submitted,Jon Cradit On Monday, March 9, 2015 9:39 AM, Kimberly Hartzog via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: For free access view just Google: making a good entrance san marcosIt should be at the top of your search results.There are 8 great photos posted with the article. Kimberly hartzogkhart...@peloton-sa.com On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Julia Germany via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Nice photo. Unfortunately, I am not a subscriber to the ExpressNews, and therefore cannot read the article. Anyone out there who can send the text to this listserv? Julia G Germany germa...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Jerry via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sun, Mar 8, 2015 11:43 pm Subject: [Texascavers] Ezell's cave gating in the news: Making a good entrance: Cavers hope new structure brings a colony back By Richard A. Marini March 8, 2015 http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Making-a-good-entrance-6122521.php ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy the original and all copies of the message. Thank you.Property Information Disclaimer: All information provided by Peloton Commercial Real Estate (PCRE) with respect to any buildings or premises has been obtained by PCRE from the owner of the building, parties hired by or affiliated with the owner, or from sources which PCRE reasonably believes to be reliable . To the best knowledge and belief of PCRE that information is accurate. However, neither PCRE nor any of its agents, employees or contractors makes, nor will they make, any representations, warranties or promises regarding the accuracy of such information. ___ Texascavers mailing list |
Re: [Texascavers] Ezell's cave gating in the news:
I also thought tcma owed more than 225 acres. Punkin and deep is like 225 acres Galen Falgout On Mar 9, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Jon via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: That is a nice news story and quite the volunteer turnout, nice work. Unfortunately however the historical background given the reporter was not correct. The bats were not eliminated from the Ezell's Cave by the installation of the recently removed cave gate but were excluded when a previous owner placed a steel plate over the entrance in the early 60's because of fear of liability suits. The property was sold to the Nature Conservancy in the late 60's with substantial help from the SWT Grotto. Through the 70's the Nature Conservancy tried several different methods of trespasser and vandal control with varying success. If you are interested in the history of Ezell's Cave read through Nature History of Texas Caves page 94 - 99. There were several attempts made to reintroduce bats into the cave after the steel plates were removed and it was an open entrance but there was no success, the bats were not interested in staying. In the early 80's the Edwards Aquifer Research and Data Center At TSU was ramping up the research portion and hired Dr. Albert Ogden. Ezell's Cave was an ideal monitoring location of the aquifer, however the instruments that Dr. Ogden was placing in the cave were suffering vandalism and therefore loss of data. The Conservancy was approached about paying for a gate but it wasn't until two students that were trespassing fell down the entrance climb and were injured requiring rescue the Nature Conservancy agreed to have a gate installed. After the Conservancy agreed to install a gate a meeting was held with Dr. Merlin Tuttle at the Wyoming NSS convention and then later when he was visiting central Texas (prior to BCI moving to Austin) a meeting was setup with the local Nature Conservancy staff and the several local San Marcos caver volunteers for Dr. Tuttle and the Conservancy biologist to recommend and review a design. Everyone agreed that it should work for the bat ingress egress, it was open enough to not disrupt the surface water flow into the cave, and tight enough to stop trespassers from entering into the cave. The gate was constructed and installed as designed by bat experts at the time. In the last few years several small (maybe tricolor) bats have been seen and reported in the cave in the winter. Respectfully submitted, Jon Cradit On Monday, March 9, 2015 9:39 AM, Kimberly Hartzog via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: For free access view just Google: making a good entrance san marcos It should be at the top of your search results. There are 8 great photos posted with the article. Kimberly Hartzog khart...@peloton-sa.com On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Julia Germany via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Nice photo. Unfortunately, I am not a subscriber to the ExpressNews, and therefore cannot read the article. Anyone out there who can send the text to this listserv? Julia G Germany germa...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Jerry via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sun, Mar 8, 2015 11:43 pm Subject: [Texascavers] Ezell's cave gating in the news: Making a good entrance: Cavers hope new structure brings a colony back By Richard A. Marini March 8, 2015 http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Making-a-good-entrance-6122521.php ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy the original and all copies of the message. Thank you. Property Information Disclaimer: All information provided by Peloton Commercial Real Estate (PCRE) with respect to any buildings or premises has been obtained by PCRE from the owner of the building, parties hired by or affiliated with the owner, or from sources which PCRE reasonably believes to be reliable . To the best knowledge and belief of PCRE that information is accurate.
Re: [Texascavers] Full Ezell's Cave Article
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Subject: [Texascavers] Full Ezell's Cave Article
with all 8 pictures, in one pdf, downloadable from
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If you want the original pix, follow the instructions from Kimberly Hartzog’s
directions and steal them as you ordinarily would
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For free access view just Google: making a good entrance san marcos
It should be at the top of your search results.
There are 8 great photos posted with the article.
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[Texascavers] Full Ezell's Cave Article
with all 8 pictures, in one pdf, downloadable from
http://www.utexas.edu/courses/arens/EzellesGate.pdf
If you want the original pix, follow the instructions from Kimberly Hartzog’s
directions and steal them as you ordinarily would
:
For free access view just Google: making a good entrance san marcos
It should be at the top of your search results.
There are 8 great photos posted with the article.
Kimberly Hartzog
khart...@peloton-sa.commailto:khart...@peloton-sa.com
Katherine Arens Office Phone: (512) 232-6363
ar...@austin.utexas.edumailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu Dept. Phone: (512)
471-4123
Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025
2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location: Burdine 336
University of Texas at Austin Office: Burdine 320
Austin, TX 78712-1802
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