[Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-09 Thread David
I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.

[Texascavers] Re: caver Tommy Joe

2013-10-11 Thread David
I bumped into Timmy Joe at a Cajun restaurant in downtown Houston about 2 years ago. He subtly indicated to me that he had other hobbies occupying his spare time. My fuzzy memory recalls something about a bad back or bad knee, etc. Feel free to correct me. David Locklear

[Texascavers] Ladder-falling 101

2013-10-10 Thread David
was airborne, my brain had time to say to itself, you got to be frickin kidding me. The moral to the story is, There is really a reason not to stand on that top step. And, for once I can say, my fat posterior came in handy, as it took the brunt of the fall. David Locklear

[Texascavers] underwater glacial cavern systems ?

2013-10-06 Thread David
Am I understanding correctly the recent annoucement by British researchers studying Antartica that there is an enormous system of underwater tunnels under the floating ice sheets of Antartica ? Or, Are they implying that there is an enormous layer of water such as a lake, and that in that lake

[Texascavers] cavers on Linkedin

2013-10-18 Thread David
contacts get a blue logo. The NSA is probably really confused about all this, presuming they are not really the ones in control of it. To me continued David Locklear P.S. Sorry I will miss TCR.Sorry I will miss the birthday party, and the meetings

[Texascavers] RM 620 cave near Round Rock

2013-10-19 Thread David
I have not heard any new news about the cave found by the road construction crew. One news-site says that it was to be filled in by mid-October. Anybody out there have new information ? David Locklear - Visit our website: http

[Texascavers] Kiwi Sink related

2013-05-06 Thread David
for me. I have a current photo of the entrance if anybody cares to see it. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EfCz-Tznfps/UYhK8Uks6zI/B8M/i23E_Ip0KDI/w1062-h636/13+-+1 David Locklear

[Texascavers] Mother's Day at Kiwi Sink ?

2013-05-11 Thread David
I know the next scheduled dig is a week away, but was wondering if anyone is digging in Kiwi Sink on Mother's Day ? If so, there is a chance I could. David Locklear 281-995-8487 ( text-line )

[Texascavers] a personal story - blog style

2013-05-13 Thread David
years since I tried blogging, so I don't know if I am doing it right. http://david-locklear.blogspot.com/ Just don't click on it please, if you are not interested. I am going to try to make next Sunday's dig at Kiwi Sink. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County, Texas 281-995-8487 ( text-line )

[Texascavers] Anyone going to Kiwi Sink ?

2013-05-18 Thread David
. It is going to be hot, but I really do want to dig in Kiwi Sink, and do not have any legitimate excuse for not going. I don't have any idea who all plans to dig. I can dig late Sunday, as I don't have to rush back. David Locklear 281-995-8487 ( text-line )

[Texascavers] Cave-digging related ( surface pits )

2013-05-20 Thread David
different gin pole rig set ups on a truck. One for just lifting, another for lifting, and then moving the object onto the very same truckbed , and another for erecting a tall structure. It seems many cavers are certified in the use of gin poles.I was unaware of that. David Locklear caver

[Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-20 Thread David
playing it at TCR ( hint, hint ): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw David Locklear

[Texascavers] check out the latest NSS Google+ Page

2013-05-22 Thread David
, but have to presume the social media guru is making identical announcements on Facebook. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County

[Texascavers] almost cave photography related

2013-05-23 Thread David
it works the same on an iPhone. I don't know if Google+ does this when you download photos there with a regular digital camera. David Locklear Ref: Supposedly, your profile photo on Google+ can be animated. https://plus.google.com/communities/106368006447834107693

[Texascavers] curious about yesterday's rain event

2013-05-25 Thread David
and rock affected the drainage or if it opened up any new voids under the rocks. David Locklear

[Texascavers] Re: curious about yesterday's rain event

2013-05-25 Thread David
got 2 inches of rain. One weather map, made it look like the storm weakened and moved over New Braunfels. But Robber Baron, got soaked. Right ?What about Cascade Caverns, and Natural Bridge Caverns ? One of the weather maps showed about 10 dumped just west of Lost Maples State Park. David

[Texascavers] Mallory update

2013-07-29 Thread David
Pavillion Building. There is some free parking on Rosalie street near Milam St. about 2 blocks from the rail station. David Locklear

[Texascavers] Caver's Beach Party

2013-05-31 Thread David
The 2nd Annual Caver's Beach Party will unofficially start in about an hour. Location: Quintana Beach County Park, Ariel Cabin. No internet access. David Locklear 281-995-8487 ( text-line ) Hopefully, someone will show up by Saturday afternoon with party/picnic supplies. I am just furnishing

[Texascavers] a beach party summary

2013-06-04 Thread David
I am posting this as a blog, mostly to show a few photos. There were no cavers in attendance, but we had our best intentions to make it a caver party. We had a great weekend. http://david-locklear.blogspot.com/2013/06/a-summary-of-2013-texas-cavers-beach.html NaturFest Association has

[Texascavers] My new digging tool

2013-06-07 Thread David
of the mixture. David Locklear

[Texascavers] Sort of Kiwi Sink related

2013-06-08 Thread David
the way. David Locklear 281-995-8487 ( text-line )

[Texascavers] Re: Rangers Sink

2013-06-11 Thread David
That is only 500 meters from the old Spelunker Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA8nMuo1yXAfeature=youtube_gdata_player

[Texascavers] Re: Rangers Sink

2013-06-11 Thread David
The 500 meter number was estimated from the end of the upstream unexplored passage to the sink-hole.

[Texascavers] An LED headlamp review

2013-06-15 Thread David
name is Police Security. David Locklear P.S.There are quite a few new LED headlamps out there if anybody wants to post something about them. There is one sold at Northern Tool Company for $ 45 that I have been wanting to try.

[Texascavers] sort of Austin related

2013-06-15 Thread David
I have sudden urge to jump in the car and drive to Peter Strickland's Pond Party. I have never been there. And dig a little in Kiwi Sink tomorrow. I am leaving from the town of Cypress near Houston, in about an hour. David 281-995-8487 ( text-line )

[Texascavers] A semi-true story

2013-06-17 Thread David
place that put my mind at ease. I need to get away again already, and I have only been back 22 hours. David Locklear

[Texascavers] latest Mars photo

2013-06-19 Thread David
http://www.spaceflight101.com/uploads/6/4/0/6/6406961/7960414_orig.jpg Is that a very tiny speleothem on the right ?

[Texascavers] a personal response to various emails

2013-06-20 Thread David
Reynosa or Nuevo Laredo Friday night and Saturday morning.My phone doesn't work down there. But I can get text messages close to the border at 281-995-8487. David Locklear Ref: http://www.soah.state.tx.us/about-us/alr/index.asp

[Texascavers] Re: Kiwi Sink report

2013-06-24 Thread David
access to. To be continued ... David Locklear

[Texascavers] a caver-ready smartphone ?

2013-05-20 Thread David
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMGAUukKuc4

[Texascavers] Kiwi Base Camp

2013-06-25 Thread David
-site. But there are no bugs, and it is quiet. Sleeping on a cot is the way to camp here. Andy Gluesencamp lives just about 100 meters from the camp-site. David Locklear

[Texascavers] Fwd: a place to camp near Kiwi

2013-06-24 Thread David
, but I ran off one beautiful fox. It is more fun to drive across Texas when you have a base-camp. If I am not there, feel free to use my cot, my chairs table or anything else stored under the tarp. David Locklear

[Texascavers] Not quiet Kiwi related

2013-06-28 Thread David
managed to pull myself out of their luring trap, while I still had about $ 700 of it left, and managed to make it home with $ 600. On a related note, I have a welder working on a new mining gadget, that will come in handy someday, and on my way to pick it up right now. David

[Texascavers] extreme caving video ?

2013-06-30 Thread David
seconds. Rule # 1, is take a deep breath, beforehand. Right ? David Locklear

[Texascavers] a fun thing to do

2013-07-01 Thread David
On Saturday, July 13th, some cavers are setting up a big tyrolean traverse in front of Desoto Falls, in the TAG part of Alabama. http://www.hcru.org/tyroleantraverse

[Texascavers] Re: Kiwi

2013-07-06 Thread David
I am about to leave for a road-trip out of Arcola, and heading west in the general direction of Kiwi. I don't have an itenarary, but hope to do some swimming and some digging. I have some extra gloves and an extra digging tool. David Locklear 281-995-8487 ( text-line )

[Texascavers] Re: Kiwi related

2013-07-07 Thread David
shower at camp and was visited by an owl. UKBC is now on the roof of my Honda Fit, and I am in San Marcos bound for Arcola. I would like to thank Ernie, and Terry and the Gluesencamps for all the help they gave me. I doubt I can make the next dig, but I will try. David Locklear

[Texascavers] Golindrinas/ Sotano El Barro related

2013-07-09 Thread David
Here is a new way to bop the really deep entrance pits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=eGimzB5QM1M#at=69

[Texascavers] caving footwear

2013-07-13 Thread David
/media/catalog/product/cache/7/image/370x310/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/0/2/02604-203_02_big.jpg * * * They are sold at the Palladium Outlet Store in Houston. David Locklear Additional info: Details of boot above: • Bottom: One piece molded rubber outsole. • Sockliner: Dri-Lex ® Moisture

[Texascavers] Correction

2013-07-19 Thread David
In my last post, I bet I was referring to the pit called Tira Grande, in a cave called Borbollon. It is on the deep pit list. It was a featured trip at the Mexpeleo that was held in the Valley of the Fantasmas. David Locklear

[Texascavers] the NSS Google+ page

2013-07-23 Thread David
cavers learn about events they were un-aware of.For example, I have never heard of the YTR. http://www.youngtimersreunion.com/ David Locklear

[Texascavers] a concept light device

2013-07-25 Thread David
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[Texascavers] Invitation to NaturFest

2013-03-03 Thread David
cavers who may have negative feelings towards me personally. This event is not about me.I ask that you come, and set those feelings aside until next week. This event will go on even it it rains, but if the forecast is severe thunderstorms, then we will post an announcement. David Locklear

[Texascavers] NaturFest update

2013-03-05 Thread David
for another year. He has been dealing with me for nearly 10 years now I think, so he deserves some sort of an award. I am working on that too. Last year, we only gave him a Stanley coffee thermos, but he deserves something nice. David Locklear

[Texascavers] NaturFest update # 2

2013-03-07 Thread David
. David Locklear 281-995-8487 ( text-line ) - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com

[Texascavers] Kiwi Sink related

2013-05-05 Thread David
Fit engineers never envisioned their tiny little car hauling a big ladder across Texas. David Locklear 281-995-8487 ( text-line )

[Texascavers] NaturFest Report #2

2013-03-09 Thread David
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[Texascavers] NaturFest Report # 3

2013-03-12 Thread David
in order to host NaturFest. And then checked into a cheap motel in Houston to recuperate. To be continued David Locklear

[Texascavers] East Texas Caver's Cookout - afterthoughts

2013-03-17 Thread David
anywhere west of Brenham.I would like to thank Mike Walsh for coming all the way from Cedar Park. In summary, planning NaturFest 2014 is going to require lots of work and resources.Mark your calendar for March 8th 9th, and hopefully there will be someone crazy enough to do it again. David

[Texascavers] Mexico border news

2013-03-16 Thread David
deaths per week than the average cartel related deaths in the region around the town of Reynosa. But the victims of these tragedies are different. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail

[Texascavers] rebuttal on Mexico border topic

2013-03-17 Thread David
myself spending most of Spring Break every year for the remainder of my life at Camp Happy Hollow celebrating NaturFest. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr

[Texascavers] caves in the news

2013-03-22 Thread David
/13293232001_1962605222001_8561B5365FE84D0B9F53EEE380B94E5E.jpg David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com

[Texascavers] Kiwi dig related

2013-03-24 Thread David
On April 1st, a study will be conducted to determine the exact depth of the entrance pit down to the millimeter. Several truckloads of 5 kilogram rocks will be dropped into the entrance and using an iPhone app to measure the time of impact, and another app to calculate the average depth, the

[Texascavers] Re: new coating

2013-03-26 Thread David
I would like to nominate Mark's last post as one of the top 10 most interesting post in the history of CaveTex. David Locklear

[Texascavers] The new coating

2013-03-27 Thread David
On April 1st, a project will begin in Lechiguilla Cave to to use the new supercalihydrophobic coating to stunt the growth of the infestation of minerals seeping throughout the tiny orifices in the walls and ceiling of the cave. Cavers will be needed with low-pressure sprayers mounted on their

[Texascavers] Cave applications for the new coating

2013-03-28 Thread David
. Rain-gutters. Depending on the products sunlight exposure resistance. , it could be used for outdoor stuff like playgrounds, boats, bleacher-seats, and thousands more. David Locklear

[Texascavers] arm-chair cavers guide to Windows 8

2013-03-31 Thread David
, and somehow I managed to type the whole message without Windows 8 crashing. Windows 8 is not going to simplify your computing life. But there is a ray of hope for the product's future, if the annoying parts become more user friendly. I guess they will call that Windows 9. David Locklear Ref: http

[Texascavers] Caver beach trip

2013-04-02 Thread David
, at the spur of the moment. David Locklear President of NaturFest Association

[Texascavers] I probably can't join the fun

2013-04-05 Thread David
, if they knew how hard it is to get land-owners to agree to do that. Try finding a land-owner east of Austin willing to do that. I hope I have been able to open up Camp Happy Hollow in Brenham to future caver gatherings, but only time will tell. Safe caving, David Locklear 281-995-8487 ( text-line )

[Texascavers] caving related and obituary related

2013-04-10 Thread David
only got to page 3 of at least 34 search engine page results. It seems like something noteworthy could be said or written about this, like I wonder if any of you ever met them at a caving event ? or it is sad that we never got to go caving with them. David Locklear

[Texascavers] Facebook related / arm-chair caving

2013-04-13 Thread David
. So lets say you following CaveChat ( https://www.facebook.com/Cavechat.org ), then those post will refresh on the screen. I think that is really a useful tool that could be put to constructive use. I will use this feature once I have a phone that has it. David Locklear Further review, Out

[Texascavers] durable batteries for caving lights and cameras

2013-04-18 Thread David
Pro headlamp uses those, as do some digital cameras, and lots of LED and Xenon flashlights use them. They can easily be purchased on-line in bulk for $ 1.62 each. David Locklear Ref: http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/A06L_1_20110831_9650358.jpg

[Texascavers] NaturFest Report #1

2013-03-08 Thread David
to go pack it up. Work family distractions kept me from doing that Friday. Please don't miss dinner. To be continued. David Locklear

[Texascavers] testing safety harness video

2013-04-21 Thread David
Is this for real ? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=db0_1301651508 Would you go vertical caving with these guys ? David Locklear

[Texascavers] digital camera news

2013-04-25 Thread David
in video from across the cave room. It should have an emergency flashlight feature of 5 lumens.When you tap 2 cameras together, they should interchange caving photos.What else ? David Locklear NSS # 27639

[Texascavers] a web-based cave atlas

2013-04-27 Thread David
for an interesting project. David Locklear NSS # 27639

[Texascavers] Caves in the news

2013-04-27 Thread David
/9552083648996bbab389366efae695d0_int470.jpg David Locklear

[Texascavers] Airman's Cave related

2013-04-27 Thread David
there. David Locklear

[Texascavers] Kiwi Sink resurgence investigated

2013-04-24 Thread David
http://cavingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/swedencavedive.jpg

[Texascavers] a new material for gloves

2013-04-27 Thread David
suit. David Locklear

[Texascavers] caves in cartoons

2013-05-01 Thread David
again. David Locklear

[Texascavers] El Sótano del Barro

2013-05-02 Thread David
+PUNTOCOM.jpg It looks like ecotours are taking the general public to the edge of the pit: http://hockingphotography.smugmug.com/keyword/sotano%20del%20barro#!i=497763611k=FtZrNGM I did not find anything on the web about recent caving in the pit. David Locklear

[Texascavers] a new survey technology

2013-04-30 Thread David
This looks promising http://www.reuters.com/video/2013/04/30/reuters-tv-laser-powered-zebedee-springs-into-actio?videoId=242557454videoChannel=118065

[Texascavers] caving gear for first Mars trips

2013-05-02 Thread David
This must be some kind of Chinese proto-type device. http://distilleryimage1.s3.amazonaws.com/0c007070a24611e2950322000a1fcea7_7.jpg Maybe NASA engineers are secretly working with them to develop this super-high-tech caving light.

[Texascavers] other upcoming events - October/November 2011

2011-10-04 Thread David
the big Thanksgiving caving trips. I am sure I left something out. David Locklear too busy arm-chair caving to get underground - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr

[Texascavers] missing caver in the news

2011-10-05 Thread David
. If that is the case, his feet are probably wet and cold. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com

[Texascavers] Re: Rod Goke

2011-10-05 Thread David
enjoyed socializing with cavers, as that seemed to be a major part of his life. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e

[Texascavers] TCMA feedback

2011-10-05 Thread David
, if they choose to run again. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com

[Texascavers] Houston hotel info

2011-10-07 Thread David
guest if more people want to crash there. If you want to camp at the party, I have a screened picnic canopy that could sleep about 4 to 5 cavers. David Locklear 281-995-8487 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com

[Texascavers] Huautla book prices

2011-10-08 Thread David
Check out these prices for Bill Steele's book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0939748703/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8condition=used Note that is the used price. Amazon still has 5 new ones in stock for $ 25.00 I believe AMCS has it for only $ 23, so check with them at TCR. David

[Texascavers] Re: missing guy in Indiana

2011-10-07 Thread David
. His silence seems odd to me. And who would leave a BMW out in the middle of nowhere for several hours unattended ? I sense there is more to this story than a young man lost in a cave. David Locklear - Visit our website: http

[Texascavers] Re: Tales from the ASS

2011-10-11 Thread David
first thought he meant FYI, but that wouldn't read right.So it must be a typo for For. ( probably typed on a touchscreen device ? ) This was more of a road-trip report, than a caving trip report.He barely mentions being in a cave. Nonetheless, I enjoyed reading it. David Locklear V.P

[Texascavers] Re: ranch gates

2011-10-13 Thread David
http://wordlock.com/_images/comm_discus.jpg This padlock is slightly larger than the typical round key locks that are sold at retail stores.

[Texascavers] search back on for alleged missing caver in Indiana

2011-10-15 Thread David
to park along Wyandotte Road. The coordinates below seem like a good area to search for a small cave entrance: 38.239132,-86.305289 based on the guess that he walked perpendicular to the road from the 1st coordinates above. David Locklear

[Texascavers] an Austin karst related question

2011-10-16 Thread David
with ? David Locklear Ref: http://www.tceq.texas.gov/field/eapp/apps.html http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/water/wildland/downloads/appendixg-balconescanyonlandspreservekarstmonitoring.pdf http://www.bseacd.org/about-us/framework-policies/ http://urbanwildlife2011.tpwd.state.tx.us/ https://www.facebook.com

[Texascavers] a new LED flashlight

2011-10-13 Thread David
The light in the link below could be used to clip on to your chest harness for extra light or for an emergency light on a long ascent, or a pitch with rebelays. http://www.drywallzone.com/images/product_images/catalogm06.jpg It has a rugged metal clip and a bright yellow switch, and the

[Texascavers] news related / personal

2011-10-17 Thread David
.That person could probably be nominated for a speleo-historian award. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com

[Texascavers] sort of caving culture related

2011-10-20 Thread David
quickly. By the way, the UT Grotto opens their meeting with the announcement, Welcome to the UT Grotto - the grotto that caves. Then their guest speaker showed a slide show about trains in Peru. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County ( Arcola, Texas

[Texascavers] What ever happened to ..... ?

2011-10-20 Thread David
Since it is quite out there in CaveTexLand, I thought I would try something nostalgic. Who wants to go first ? What ever happened to .. Doug Allen ? What ever happened to Joel King ? etc. David Locklear - Visit

[Texascavers] Re: What ever happened to .... ?

2011-10-21 Thread David
One more try, Whatever happened to John Spence ? Whatever happened to Spencer Woods ...? Whatever happened to Pam Oskowski ( ? ) Woods ? Whatever happened to Troy Shelton ? nobody else got anything ? David Locklear

[Texascavers] sort of eco-tour caving related

2011-10-20 Thread David
-eco-tours.Probably the only way I would go caving in South America, Indonesia, or China, or Belize. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County ( Arcola, Texas ) - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail

[Texascavers] TAG Fall Cave-In

2011-10-21 Thread David
in documenting caving activity and sharing it.Without Facebook, we would have almost no knowledge that the event even took place. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e

Re: [Texascavers] TAG Fall Cave-In

2011-10-21 Thread David
community because of this kind of stuff, and that they are still actively but very quietly caving. I am not ready to throw in the towel just yet. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail

[Texascavers] a cave related web-link

2011-10-22 Thread David
on the photos in the brochure doesn't do anything for me. But I do want to emphasize that I liked the booklet. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County, Texas NSS # 27639 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe

[Texascavers] vaguely BOG related

2011-10-23 Thread David
, or to request a reduced suspension, only because they did quite a bit of work on the BOG and have also on previous occasions, and it would would have been a complete disaster had they dropped the ball at the last minute. David Locklear much more grumpier than usual

[Texascavers] Mystery Caver

2011-10-28 Thread David
There used to be a thing in the Texas Caver called, Mystery Caver. Can anybody out there take a guess at this one: https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1308222742/portrait.JPG If that is who I think it is, would someone like to post a What ever happened to herthing ? David Locklear

[Texascavers] a personal message

2011-08-22 Thread David
most of my rants on Google + now.I like it better than Facebook. So, I am trying to avoid Facebook, but it just seems to have to much practical purpose. For example, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cavechatorg/168120223246915?sk=wall Cheers, David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County President

[Texascavers] Gunnel's Cave

2011-08-28 Thread David
of the cave. For most of you, the best reference, will be the town of Nacogdoches. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail

[Texascavers] some new videos

2011-08-31 Thread David
. president doing something like that ? David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com

[Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread David
How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own rescue vehicle ? http://cavingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/cro3.jpg - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail:

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