Re: [Texascavers] 39th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion

[Jon via Texascavers]

THATS GREAT.
Thanks for the early notice.
 

On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 3:43 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
 wrote:
 

 Paradise Canyon
October 12-15, 2017


--Texas Caver
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Re: [Texascavers] Laptop question for cave mapping

[Jon via Texascavers]

Diana,You may consider getting one with a powerful word processor so after the 
cave map is drafted the trip report can be written in conjunction with it.  
Then you can take the map and trip report and jump right into editing the rest 
of the Texas Caver articles for the next months issue.   What do you think?


  From: Diana Tomchick via Texascavers 
 To: Cave Tex  
 Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:24 PM
 Subject: [Texascavers] Laptop question for cave mapping
   
I’m preparing to purchase a new Windows laptop that will be used for cave 
mapping, along with other tasks.

Is there any particular reason why I might want to get a laptop with a touch 
screen? It appears to me that it only adds extra weight to the laptop without 
adding great functionality (I personally love to use a computer mouse, and 
would use an externally attached drawing tablet for drawing).

Comments or suggestions are welcome,

Diana

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Re: [Texascavers] TCR cooks wrap-up (sort of...)

[Jon via Texascavers]

Stefan,You have done an outstanding job coordinating this circus of cats every 
year.  I appreciate your hard work.Your menu selection has been great and I 
truly appreciate the long hours you and your crew have put in.  You will be 
missed and you left a high bar for the next chef spoon wrangler to shoot for.   
Jon Cradit

  From: Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
 To: "texascavers@texascavers.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 12:31 AM
 Subject: [Texascavers] TCR cooks wrap-up (sort of...)
   
 The 
coolers are washed and put away, the recycling sorted (thanks all for only 0.5% 
trash in there!) and put out, bills paid… Only the washing up and re-pack of 
the trailer to go…    Would like to thank the Aggies for another *outstanding* 
contribution – helping cook, serve, wash up after (!!), dismantle tent and 
re-pack of trailer. We could not do the weekend without their help, and it is 
*very* much appreciated.    The following people were largely responsible for 
getting all y’all fed  -  Cammy and Vico Jones, Sean Vincent, Laura, Jocie 
Hooper, Eric Flint, Rob Upchurch, and a host of choppers (too many to list), 
stirrers and last minute shoppers (Ken Demarest)! I want to thank them for all 
their hard work, and putting up with me being a miserable  all Saturday! 
Oh, and Sam Marshall for hauling the new trailer to and from TCR.       I have 
been chief cook and bottle washer for 10 TCRs now and the time has come for me 
to hang up my spoon and apron, and pass the trailer keys to a new, more 
enthusiastic, volunteer. It has been an interesting ride, but I need to enjoy 
Paradise Canyon from the other side of the pot sometime.    If you have the 
desire to take this on – lead a team of enthusiastic volunteers of your making, 
cooking food for your greater circle of friends, then please get in touch asap 
and we’ll pass on some wisdom before our old brains erase it.    So long, and 
thanks for all the chillies.    -Stefan    Stefan Creaser Staff Design 
Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM 5707 Southwest Parkway, Bldg 1, Suite 100, 
Austin, TX 78735, USA. Direct: +1-512-314-1012, Internal: 11012. Email: 
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Re: [Texascavers] Money

[Jon via Texascavers]

Well Charlie I'm sure you could send it in an eenvelope if that works better. 
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:27 pm, Charles Loving via 
Texascavers wrote:   Why are cagers sending 
Bockbeer money on line?

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Re: [Texascavers] Press release re: Caverns of Sonora

[Jon via Texascavers]

I'm glad to know the courts are serious about protecting the caves. Thanks for 
send this out jacque.

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From:"J. LaRue Thomas via Texascavers" 
Date:Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:30 am
Subject:[Texascavers] Press release re: Caverns of Sonora

The following Press Release was published in the Thursday, September 24th  
Devil's River News. I haven't seen it anywhere else but it's a pretty big deal. 
Jacqui 


Press Release

112th DistrictAttorney’s Office

 

On September 14, 2015, aCriminal Bench Trial was held before the Honorable 
Judge Pedro Gomez, Jr.concerning the two count Indictment against Adam William 
Garcia-Gallegos fordamaging the Sonora Caverns on May 24, 2014. Garcia-Gallegos 
was indicted witha two (2) count Indictment on September 9, 2014 by the Sutton 
County GrandJury. One count alleged that Garcia-Gallegos knowingly removed 
natural itemsfrom a cave and the other count alleged that he knowingly 
destroyed, defaced,marred or harmed the surfaces of a cave. Garcia-Gallegos 
pleaded “guilty” toknowingly removing and “not guilty” to knowingly destroying, 
defacing, marring,or harming items of a cave.

 

Evidence presented duringthe bench trial included a 17 year old eyewitness who 
observed Garcia-Gallegosbreak a stalagtite [sic] during theirtour. Louise 
Ingham testified that she asked Garcia-Gallegos to empty hispockets and he 
pulled five items from his pocket. Testimony from Ingham andBill Sawyer 
confirmed that four of the items were debris that could have beenfound 
alongside the trail, but the fifth item was freshly broken from withinthe cave. 
Sawyer and the eyewitness were able to find the location from whichthe 
stalagtite [sic] had been broken.Testimony was also presented by Sawyer 
concerning the process and costs whichwill be necessary for repairs to restore 
the stalagtite [sic].  

 

After hearing theevidence, Judge Gomez found Garcia-Gallegos guilty of both 
counts and sentencedhim to seven hundred and thirty (730) days in the State 
Jail Division of theTexas Department of Criminal Justice, suspended for five 
(5) years on community supervision. Seven hundred and thirty(730) days is the 
maximum sentence for a state jail felony and five (5) yearsis the maximum for a 
probated sentence on a state jail felony. Judge Gomez alsoordered 
Garcia-Gallegos to pay $9,480.00 restitution for the repairs. Therestitution 
must be paid within thirty-six (36) months to Gerry MayfieldIngham, who is one 
of the owners of the Sonora Caverns. The Sonora Caverns hasbeen owned by the 
Mayfield Faamily for five (5) generations. 

 

During her testimony,Louise Ingham stated, “Our Family opened the Caverns to 
the public foreducational purposes and to allow people to enjoy the natural 
beauty of thecaverns.”

 

Laurie English, 112thDistrict Attorney, stated, “The Sonora Caverns represent a 
precious naturalresource that must be protected and preserved for future 
generations. Theremoval of even the smallest items from the Caverns damages the 
integrity andbeauty of this natural wonder.”

 

The law concerning damageto caves within Texas was modified in 2007 and the 
penalty was increased from amisdemeanor to a felony after the Sonora Caverns 
sustained damage to the “Butterfly”which was the premier feature of the 
Caverns. The Ingham Family and the SuttonCounty Attorney, Dib Waldrip, were 
instrumental in getting the penalty raisedto a state jail felony. This is the 
first recorded prosecution in the State ofTexas under this statute.

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Re: [Texascavers] [SuperSpeleOlympics]

[Jon via Texascavers]

Dear Ringleader,aaa.., that is Ringmaster,One option could be each participant 
gets points for each event:the traditional speleolympics, points for CaveSim, 
points for re-balay course.  They can do any or all.  If they do all they go 
into the Super event group.
 


 On Monday, August 31, 2015 12:28 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
 wrote:
   

 "Advanced SpeleOlympics"?

An intriguing idea has surfaced for this years TCR. This idea may incorporate 
elements of a re-belay course, CaveSim, squeezebox, water feature and possibly 
short adverse survey.
"SuperSpeleOlympics"?

The concern is twofold: it may not happen again (CaveSim availability and 
cost), and concern for those who would normally do Speleolympics but who don't 
have adequate vertical skills.

Can we get regular Speleolympics Officials from the past involved in this topic?

Discuss:


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Re: [Texascavers] [CaveSim at TCR!]

[Jon via Texascavers]

That would be great to have.
It sure was fun last visit it made to TCR.


On Wed, 6/10/15, Don Arburn via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Subject: [Texascavers] [CaveSim at TCR!]
 To: TSA Cavers List texascavers@texascavers.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2015, 11:50 AM
 
 Cavers, I am pleased to announce that
 Dave Jackson and his cave simulator, CaveSim, is available
 to come to TCR at Paradise Canyon this October. Available.
 He needs fuel money to get here. Two individuals and two
 grottos have already committed to donating to the cause - to
 the tune of $700! Thanks Sheryl, Jerry, Bexar and PBSS
 grottos! We are halfway there! We need a total of $1,500 for
 a day visit. An additional day would be an additional $300.
 The CaveSim is an awesome facsimile and caver skills tester.
 I personally took part in Alabama, during the NSS
 convention, in running it, it was VERY popular. The CaveSim
 was at Paradise Canyon a couple years back and there are
 local Cavers defending time  score titles!
 I challenge you.
 In addition to the REAL caves in the park, let's get the
 CaveSim here too!
 TCR is forking over $50 to help, bringing the grand total to
 $750, what can your group do?
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Ezell's cave gating in the news:

[Jon via Texascavers]

That is a nice news story and quite the volunteer turnout, nice 
work.Unfortunately however the historical background given the reporter was not 
correct.
The bats were not eliminated from the Ezell's Cave by the installation of the 
recently removed cave gate but were excluded when a previous owner placed a 
steel plate over the entrance in the early 60's because of fear of liability 
suits.  The property was sold to the Nature Conservancy in the late 60's with 
substantial help from the SWT Grotto.  Through the 70's the Nature Conservancy 
tried several different methods of trespasser and vandal control with varying 
success.  If you are interested in the history of Ezell's Cave read through 
Nature History of Texas Caves page 94 - 99.
There were several attempts made to reintroduce bats into the cave after the 
steel plates were removed and it was an open entrance but there was no success, 
the bats were not interested in staying. In the early 80's the Edwards Aquifer 
Research and Data Center At TSU was ramping up the research portion and hired 
Dr. Albert Ogden.  Ezell's Cave was an ideal monitoring location of the 
aquifer, however the instruments that Dr. Ogden was placing in the cave were 
suffering vandalism and therefore loss of data.  The Conservancy was approached 
about paying for a gate but it wasn't until two students that were trespassing 
fell down the entrance climb and were injured requiring rescue the Nature 
Conservancy agreed to have a gate installed.   
After the Conservancy agreed to install a gate a meeting was held with Dr. 
Merlin Tuttle at the Wyoming NSS convention and then later when he was visiting 
central Texas (prior to BCI moving to Austin) a meeting was setup with the 
local Nature Conservancy staff and the several local San Marcos caver 
volunteers for Dr. Tuttle and the Conservancy biologist to recommend and review 
a design.  Everyone agreed that it should work for the bat ingress egress, it 
was open enough to not disrupt the surface water flow into the cave, and tight 
enough to stop trespassers from entering into the cave.  The gate was 
constructed and installed as designed by bat experts at the time.
In the last few years several small (maybe tricolor) bats have been seen and 
reported in the cave in the winter.   
Respectfully submitted,Jon Cradit 

 On Monday, March 9, 2015 9:39 AM, Kimberly Hartzog via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
   

 For free access view just Google: making a good entrance san marcosIt should 
be at the top of your search results.There are 8 great photos posted with the 
article.

Kimberly hartzogkhart...@peloton-sa.com




On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

Nice photo.

Unfortunately, I am not a subscriber to the ExpressNews, and therefore cannot 
read the article.

Anyone out there who can send the text to this listserv?
 
 
Julia G Germany
germa...@aol.com 
 
 
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From: Jerry via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Sun, Mar 8, 2015 11:43 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Ezell's cave gating in the news:

 
Making a good entrance: 

Cavers hope new structure brings a colony back
   By Richard A. Marini   March 8, 2015       
http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Making-a-good-entrance-6122521.php
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Re: [Texascavers] Used gear/garage sale Sunday at REI

[Jon via Texascavers]

Hi folks,I'm looking for something that REI won't deal with, used climbing 
rope.If anyone has used climbing rope, dynamic not static, and they would like 
to get rid of it but didn't want to just throw it in the dumpster please 
contact me off texascavers list.  It WILL NOT be used for supporting body 
weight in any way but it will be given a good home.
Jon, cavefa...@yahoo.com
 

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 FYI, used gear bargains and unadvertised deals will be available at garage 
sales tomorrow/Sunday ' Jan. 4, at all Texas REI (Recreational Equipment Inc.) 
stores in Texas. Be sure to come early for the best deals.
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Re: [Texascavers] locklear

[Jon via Texascavers]

Julie this seems like an 0verly harsh reply. It seems civility is being lostSent from my Samsung Mobile

Julie Jenkins via Texascavers  wrote:

I gotta say this- lockear, most of the time u don't know what the hell yur talking about!!All u posts r crap U sir know nothing clearly factual about any Austin caves and I doubt what ever in may accidentally read that u post. So I don't have to put up with seeing yur BS and complete crap. I've chosen to block yur name from any type of contact, FB , or anything else!David, shut the F---k Up! And quit postingJulesOn Dec 20, 2014, at 3:09 PM, via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:Cave x.is owned t regents private school. The cave passage goes directly under there very nice green football field. Ive heard The school does not want anyone to enter the cave in fear if finding out that all those fertilizers are effecting the cave.Galen P. FalgoutSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 PM, David via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:The original post about the cave in Austin mentioned something about the city acquiring land. 
The storm sewer lies in a highfalutin neighborhood. It does not seem practical to buy a land preserve there.
The cost of ripping out the storm-sewer and doing a gov't authorized dig would be a million dollars.
A more worthwhile project would be something at "Cave X, " which I would guess is controlled by the Balcones Escarpment District, which I know nothing about.
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Registration Prices

[Jon via Texascavers]

It appears that  Ellie will have to build a matrix to rank and rate all of the 
variables to determine this. 


On Friday, September 12, 2014 12:55 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
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I was on the registration sheet at Luckenbach but no one saw me cause I was in 
the bar with Hondo and Strickland.


On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jon Cradit via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

Maybe an old timer is someone that attended the first TOTR or at least had the 
choice to attend?  
  
  
From:Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Bentley via Texascavers
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:50 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Registration Prices   
  
What constitutes an Old Timer qualification?

 
On 9/12/2014 11:29 AM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers wrote:  
TCR Registration Prices: 
  
Adult - $25.00 
Child - $15.00 
Family - $80.00 
Old timer - $15.00 
  
Registration gets you a wristband, meal, beverages and a chance at door 
prizes. 
  
Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/events/529777467143718/ 
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Re: [Texascavers] 1978Luckenbach

[Jon via Texascavers]

I was there and so was Jack Ralph.  
Also John Etherage and his pit bull who chewed through the 12/3 romex that John 
was using to tie him to one place. RIP.

 

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 Subject: [Texascavers] 1978Luckenbach
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com
 Date: Friday, August 29, 2014, 5:25 PM
 
 
 
 
 Gil,
 Peter, Bryan and Bill were there.  I was there behind
 the photo capturing device.
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Sort of Brehmer Cave related

[Jon via Texascavers]

Yes,my son and I went into the cave a few years ago with her.Sent from my Samsung Mobile

David via Texascavers  wrote:

Some of you Old-Timers, should remember Mrs Melitta Stahl, who used to let cavers visit her caves, northwest of New Braunfels.
Her great-grandson, who I didnt even know was born, sent me a Facebook message today.
The message was just a Smiley Face.
After an hour of wondering what that was about, I found out.
It turns out, he is just 2 years old, and stumbled onto an old Facebook message that I had sent his mom about 4 years ago. 
After an introduction, we talked about caves.
He wants to go in Avery Cave.   His mom, would like to know all about the caves her grandparents once owned.
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Re: [Texascavers] a NASA video clip

[Jon via Texascavers]

Cool 
Processes simply explained


 


On Friday, August 15, 2014 1:23 AM, David via Texascavers 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQLWIuaNg68
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